This episode, like this whole season, was mediocre. HIMYM usually puts a fresh twist on something old, but they didn’t bother with that when introducing Lily’s dad, which is maybe why I hated it. We’ve all seen “estranged/deadbeat dad” stuff on TV, if not real life.

The characters did feel more like themselves in this episode, though, so I guess we can be thankful for that. It had a few good jokes, but not good enough to make up for the plot.

MY heart thudded for a minute when he said ” I am still in love with you” Of course I knew that was nothing .

I rewatched the pilot as well and also felt something was missing. I think it was the fact that the swarkles pairing really messed things up for me, and I wish the writers hadn’t gone there at this point because it ruined the magic of the show for me a little.

I think its weird that monica and chandlers mother from Friends played Lily’s grandmother. She can’t be old enough to be a grandmother to a 20 something year old.

But I’m with what y’all are saying about Lily. I remember in Season 1 when I liked Marshall and Lily as a couple because they were the cool couple, not domesticated at all. Lily was also the one to speak her mind and actually come off really really awesome (The pilot’s “You chickened out like a little bitch.” quote resonates in my head). In season 5, it just seems they’re the opposite, more domesticated, and that “cuteness” that was Lily has become the “evil” we see a lot of in Season 5. Bring “cute” Lily back!

Now that I think of it, one thing I thought was a pro to HIMYM over Friends was how eccentric and well defined the characters are. However, it seems sometimes that the writers may have worked themselves into a wall by having such a high definition of the characters.

btw – they totally brought evil willow back with the “you’re dead to me” looks. lily, however, remains lost.

In my top three worst eps along with Everything Must Go and Aldrin Justice. The common thread? They’re all Lily-centric.

I hate Lily because she always ruins episodes by alternately acting like a shrew and the voice of reason without any imperative but to add minutes to the broadcast time. She is rarely funny and usually drags down the rest of the cast (who are extraordinary BTW).

Carter and Craig, please stop making Lily-centric episodes…they bog down entire seasons of your awesome show.

I did not like a thing about this. Possibly the worst episode not only of this season, but probably in the “worst top 3 episodes of all himym”.

Really, the only thing I save from the episode is Lily’s “It’s not decaf”.

Anything else? Boring. Really. Including the Ted still loves Robin just to slap Barney.

Robin and Ted played nothing today. Barney did not do a thing. Lily’s father’s not funny at all. Lily is boring and annoying and Marshall is not the Erikssen we loved.

Really? Where the hell is this show going?