Season 7, Episode 17: No Pressure
By Jordan

Welcome back, everyone! Coming off of last week’s episode, which left us on a cliffhanger, one of you wrote, “Best episode I have ever seen” about tonight’s. So…was it? Well no, but pretty damn good! Let’s dive in…

What was Good
- Yup. Loved it. That’s 2 for 2. This episode was mythology-heavy and did a great job of knocking down what last week set up. I was sincerely worried that they would blow it, and was pleasantly surprised to see that they smacked back-to-back homers.
- We saw Mom! How sweet is that? Sure, that 20th Century Fox backlot ain’t fooling anyone, but I don’t care. This is the closest we have seen of her since her foot a few seasons back.
- Marshall, the best friend we all need. The best friend who knows your feelings and true intentions better than you do, the one who will meet you at a bar at 0700 in the AM to talk, and cares enough to make a bet about your love life. Marshall is like the Yoda of this show; he seems like a silly mid-westerner at times (sorry) as well as a needy puppy dog, but he’s actually super-duper wise and a bad-ass to boot.
- Barney ransacking LAME’s house and hiring a cleaning crew to mop up the mess. This is a good motivator for hard work and success; you will have the cash to fund your crazy schemes.
- Ted and how the kiss went down. They say there are three truths in life; yours, mine, and the real one. I think we saw the real one first.
- Very glad to see so many questions answered tonight. Yup, Ted saw something, but wasn’t sure what it was. Barney has grown up, and Ted certainly wasn’t expecting to see that.
What Was Bad
- Again, not much. I wasn’t fond of Ted in bed talking about lyme disease. Struck me as too sit-commy. You know how I feel about that. A minor quick speed bump.
- Patrice; lame. I really believe she was manufactured (have we ever seen her before?) to get Robin out of the city so that Ted could talk about her with his friends. Oh well, at least we got a few funny moments of Ted and Robin packing.
- “Not yet.” This went against the theme of the episode (closure), never mind that it’s a red herring…sort of, I mean, we know that Ted and Robin do not end up together (LET IT GO, PEOPLE). Perhaps this is alluding to something about things between Ted, Barney and Robin not working out? Not sure. They should have faded out on the yellow umbrellas (MAN I wish I bought stock in that “yellow umbrella” company).

Favorite Moments
- “I go camping in secret!” Sometimes, ladies, when we declare our love for you and you don’t say it back, uh, we wish we could take it back. Yup.
- “Oh God, where’s my cough syrup??”
- That’s right, this is a direct sequel to last week, the Drunk Train is back! In reference form only, of course, but it’s back!
- “Do you think I could turn that baby into my baby?” I’ve wondered the same thing, Barney.
- “Blah blah blah blah SEX TAPE HIDDEN SOMEWHERE blah blah blah”
- “Yeah, but he just wants to bang me, I want something real”
- “Make the no way creepy grand romantic gestures we all know Robin loves!”
- “Not like this, Lily…not like this.”
- “Excuse me…I’ve got some sonnets to write.” Damn Ted, I’ve missed you.
- The ski bet. “People fall off ski-lifts all the time.” You know, this bet on your single friends thing sounds like a good idea…
- Conan cameo! And is that the dude who plays Joe on “Family Guy” in the airport?
- Barney’s little head-twitch in the flashback of having his heart stomped on. Chills.
- “Thanks, now let’s watch our two best friends have sex on tape.”
- The tug-of-war between Marshall and Lily about the sex tape.
- Florence and the Machine. Great song, “Shake it Out”. Check out, “Cosmic Love,” and put it on in the bedroom. Trust me.

Questions/Queries
- Wedding Bride 3! I’m sad that Tony continues to be a successful hack screenwriter at Ted’s expense, but…what are you gonna do? I’d punch the guy if he wasn’t a black belt.
- A theme of forgiveness: “the movie we wanted to see was sold out.” That movie, btw, is Wedding Bride 3. I take this to mean, by the time Ted has met the mother, he has moved on from the past and is ready to love. And, just in case this isn’t obvious enough, Wedding Bride 3 with the mother..people, Ted will be married to the mother of his children. She ain’t gonna die.
- At what point does Marshall just kick Barney’s ass for constantly lusting after his wife?
- The unattainable is attractive to both sexes, Lily. That is why Ted wants Robin and Barney wants to bang you.
- Lily, you saucy minx you, you are not Ted’s best friend. Barney/Marshall is/are.
- Then again, maybe you are; your bet against Ted is actually for him in the long term.
- For a second there, I wasn’t sure Lily was intentionally giving Ted bad advice (regarding Robin’s phone being full of messages when she lands). Sometimes chicks give fantasy advice to guys in the way that they are imagining a straight Fabio doing it for them. Guys, never listen to girl’s giving you advice.
- For the love of God, people, NEVER MAKE A SEX TAPE. I know it can help, you know, in a Monday-Morning Quarterback look at the game film kind of way (You need to get your ass higher and thrust slower, dear, see?) but it’s bad idea jeans all the way.
- Ain’t buying Lily’s wig at the wedding flashback.
- Good reason to own a VCR to this day; you never know when you might find your friend’s no-no tape…so that you can then convert it over to DV, then to youtub…I mean youporn… I mean

Closing Thoughts
Dear Ted,
We get three great loves. Two that get away (Stella and Robin), and the one you are with forever (?).
You took a big step tonight towards the goal of the third, and I’m proud of you. You grew a pair and hung yourself out there with Robin. Although it didn’t work out the way you planned, in the future, you will be so glad it didn’t.
Thing is, you know you were reckless. You didn’t think and you went with your heart. At least you got the answer you deserved and needed. Just try to look before you leap next time.
Oh wait. Leaping is a good thing. Forget I said anything.
Your pal,
Jordan
So, Robin is the last girl Ted declares his love for until he meets the one. Indeed, we are getting close to the finish. So, unless they are really planning on not having Ted be the main character for much of the remaining episodes, next season will, and should, be the last.
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Adam Dempsey | Tuesday, February 21st, 2012 07:50 pm GMT -4
Another great episode, I think this season has gotta be my favourite, so many big stories all going on, but plenty of laughs going on too.
There’s been a couple of dud episodes, but even so I’m still loving it and gripped between episodes, can’t wait to see what’s coming up next!
It did surprise me that Ted never said anything to Barney about the night he saw the rose petals and candles, but I wasn’t sure if maybe he couldn’t remember as I seem to remember he was really drunk that night?
Katie | Tuesday, February 21st, 2012 07:50 pm GMT -4
‘No one asked YOU, Patrice!’ – Robin.
When Barney is showering gifts over Nora.
The only time I can really remember her mentioned too much.
I loved this episode, right back to Ted. Great.
Pennie | Tuesday, February 21st, 2012 07:51 pm GMT -4
I loved this episode too! Ted and Marshall were adorable together in this episode, to the point that I was going ‘aww’ through half of it. Particularly when Marshall was saying Ted would have set up the christmas lights for him.
I don’t usually play the shipper for this show, but there were so many relationship teases in the first half of the ep – apart from the obvious Ted/Robin, there was innuendo between most of the couple and threesome combinations.
Mart_B | Tuesday, February 21st, 2012 07:52 pm GMT -4
I won’t let it go
I’m not deluded and I know that Robin is not the mother – unless we allow a possibility where the scriptwriters and producers were lying all the time along. But somehow this episode really struck me, that Robin can be the end game for Ted, after the mother. Except the fact that this mother will have Ted’s children, the audience will never ever get to like her even half a much as a character such as Robin is. The show has been devoted to Ted and his friends for many years now, and even if we see finally the mother I just don’t care for her.
All in all – as Marshall said, Ted is loving her just so much – so if he does..why couldn’t Robin be the one he spends the rest of his life with? I was so touched with what Marshall did, that I’m sticking with his “not yet” untill the very last episode (or maybe epilogue after!). Great episode.
kaytea | Tuesday, February 21st, 2012 08:55 pm GMT -4
I feel like i’m reading far too into this, but Wedding Bride III could be a reference to The Mother, the third girl Ted will truly love throughout the series, and who he’ll marry.
Stella was first, and got married to Tony
Mother will be the third and marry Ted
Again, reading too into this, but possibly that means that Robin will marry Barney. (yes technically Ted loved her before Stella, but i’m talking chronological order of marriage.)
Lolo | Tuesday, February 21st, 2012 09:03 pm GMT -4
Great episode!!! Did anyone notice Conan?
Filippo | Tuesday, February 21st, 2012 09:04 pm GMT -4
@Mart_B: my two cents:
If Robin can’t be the mother, maybe she can be the WIFE or woman of his life! Be aware, Robin can’t have kids! So this makes sense!
So the pilot is right (Robin is the beginning of the story) and the name “Aunt Robin” is formally correct. That is, after he tells the children that Robin isn’t their mother he tells how he met their real mother. That can be the mother of his adopted child.
As for the beginning when he is kissing and saying I love you to the mother, there can be a lot of different explanations (even a small error in the telling of the story, nothing new for Ted). She can even be Robin for what we know: in fact there can be two mothers, the one the knew as their mother and the real mother!
If you look at the episode, Robin is really really sad when she has to decide if she loves Ted. And she is even more sad about the answer. Saying “I love you” also means that she wants to be with Ted and he will not have kids. The kids are really important in her decisions, she broke up with Kevin just for that! And it’s not clear her position on this matter… But we know that she “changed her mind now” (Ted tells this in some episode).
Anyway everything can be wrong, but I think that there wiill be a lot of suprises in the eight season!
HK | Tuesday, February 21st, 2012 09:12 pm GMT -4
I loved this one too. HIMYM is at its best when it can be both funny and serious and propel the story along while giving little hints along the way. I had a big feeling from the photos last week that Robin would be moving out. Victoria’s warning is really ringing loud these days. Changes are coming!
These last few episodes have been awesome, especially last week and one of my all time favorites – Symphony of Illusion – but also are making me a little sad because we are heading towards the end of the story. LAME are truly adults with a baby on the way, Robin is getting closer to her career goals and Ted is finally on his way to meeting his true love. Barney is still the wild card. While he has definitely progressed, he still has work to do and his wedding is going to be a game-changer for sure. I’m still on the fence to as who it is, but I’m relishing every moment for sure.
Simon | Tuesday, February 21st, 2012 09:48 pm GMT -4
Ted’s wife is probably dark-haired, so it could be Robin. In the first scene of the ‘Matchmaker’ episode (season 1) you can see a wedding photo on Future Ted’s desk. The bride’s face is hidden, but she clearly has dark hair.
Although it could be just a photo, with no meaning whatsoever.
Ross | Tuesday, February 21st, 2012 10:04 pm GMT -4
Robin will not be the mother stepmother etc. Ted will Marry the mother and that will be it. Count on it.
JK | Tuesday, February 21st, 2012 11:13 pm GMT -4
Your Ted/Robin shippers need to pay up. LOL.
Seriously I get why you like Ted/Robin. That’s the relationship that had the most chemistry on this show, but we’ve known since day one that it is nothing more than a big red herring. It is that relationship in your life that you need before you meet the love of your life.
Why doesn’t Ted/Robin work? Simple. Robin just doesn’t love Ted in the same way Ted loved her. She sees Ted as her best male friend, but not in a romantic way. It is called real life.
This episode is greatly done. It provides closure to the Ted/Robin arc. It also shows that we are getting close to end game as Ted can finally move on and go find the one. (And Marshall you need to pay up
).
robinsparkles14 | Tuesday, February 21st, 2012 11:17 pm GMT -4
This reminded of season 4 a lot…the end, not all the Robin-Ted crap. I love Robin and Ted. But I’ll always be a Robin-Barney shipper.
Either way, fantastic episode!!!
Derrick Westside | Tuesday, February 21st, 2012 11:39 pm GMT -4
Great episode! It’s nice to see Barney open up about what happened. Robin didn’t deny that she was in love with Barney. I really hope it’s robin walking down the aisle.
crazy sock guy | Tuesday, February 21st, 2012 11:53 pm GMT -4
when this episode ends, it instantly reminds me to the scene when victoria saying goodbye to ted. oh man..
BKx7 | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 12:34 am GMT -4
Absolutely perfect.
I feel like this show has been dragging so much this season, and finally, some solid plot progression and loose ends being tied up.
This episode perfectly represents why I love this show so much, and why I’ve stuck by it for so long. Ted had to admit that he and Robin aren’t right for each other, and he finally mustered up the courage to take the steps to move on and make his life move towards what he wants it to be.
If Robin is the mother, in some way or another, I’ll feel cheated and angry. Some people theorize that the kids’ birth mother is dead and Future!Ted is prepping them with this story to tell them he’s marrying “Aunt Robin.” I think that’s waaay too morbid for a sitcom, especially one like this. But I definitely think Robin will always be important.
I can’t wait for the rest of the season now.
Colin | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 12:48 am GMT -4
This is the episode we all needed, not only to clear up Victoria’s prediction, but to put us at ease and show us the writers know what they’re doing. None of us really saw it coming, but in hindsight (see: the Christmas decorations for Robin), Ted really did love Robin and needed to get over her in order to move on. And the moment he walked outside and we saw all the yellow umbrellas, I started clapping and jumping for joy! I loved it!
Barney was great in this episode. I loved that they finally discussed the night Robin rejected him, and he was great with everything else, from the drunk train reference to finding the Lily/Marshall Bet Box to dancing in the back of the car. Now, if only we find out more about the stripper.
Marshall and Lily were good together, but Big Fudge really nailed it in the end. He showed why he really is Ted’s best friend, and it was even better when he said “not yet.” What that means, we don’t know. But I can’t wait to find out.
I missed out on Conan, the chained blue French Horn and the Wedding Bride 3, but I enjoyed the callback to Marshall picking Lily up at the airport in “Three Days of Snow” (only this time, it was Ted and Robin). And yes, we met Patrice earlier. And while I wouldn’t say we saw enough evidence to make her Robin’s nemesis, she didn’t exactly do anything to make her happy that first time around.
Alright, where to now? I can’t wait to find out.
Stevo | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 01:23 am GMT -4
“I slap my own ass!!”
“I slap MY own ass!!”
Matthew | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 01:34 am GMT -4
Im glad you picked up on all the vibes Barney sends Lily’s way, Jordan. The guy has been obsessed with her since she temp moved into his apartment so long ago.
paipr_christian | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 02:44 am GMT -4
great episode and totally made up for the last quarter stupidity of ted last episode. considering teds habit of saying “i love you” to early itll be interesting to see him actually hold that back, and to find out how he holds it back.
am i the only one super annoyed with marshal’s “not yet” seriously we didnt need that. its hard to truly get closure when thats there. it does leave me wondering though, the idea that perhaps aunt robin is future teds wife after the kids mom dies is the only thing that fits, that said, it be a wicked downer if we find out in the last episode the mother passes away sometime after kid#2 was born.
waxcr | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 03:37 am GMT -4
Hello everyone, first time poster here.
Gotta say i abolutely love this how!
Just wanted to hear your opinions on some thoughts of mine.
I just rushed through all episodes in less than a week, so it is very likely that i missed one thing or another, but if i remember correctly, we never get to see future Robin in any of the scenes where they show future Ted, Marshall and so on.
Of course this could just be because the writers wanted to keep the Ted/Robin/Barney triangle running, but i was wondering if it could also mean that Robin may not be with the group in the future for various reasons (maybe a bit extreme, but i was also considering the possibility that she dies)?
Especially because first, it is obvious she won’t be with Ted (hate to admit it, as i’m a big Ted/Robin fan and still HOPE that we all missed a big loop hole that somehow allows this scenario without making it look stupid) and second, i don’t see Robin and Barney end up together either, because i get the feeling, that Barney would love to be a father and will have his own kids in the future.
Any opinions? Feel free to correct me if i missed something, those were just some thoughts i have after running through all the episodes.
Ross | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 03:41 am GMT -4
Not all the fans of the show are addicted to Robin being the one Ted spends his life with. No offense meant, but to me Robin represents almost everything I do not like in a person. After what she did to Barney, my opinion hasn’t changed. I’ve dated similar girls before and that’s cold stuff.
So, yeah, I would love to finally meet the mother. And I’m sure I’ll love her, because I’m hoping she will be everything Robin is not.
Anyway, those are just my thoughts on the subject.
Waxcr | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 04:43 am GMT -4
Gotta add i totally missed the wedding bride 3 part.
Had to rewatch it, i’m amazed that you guys notice stufe like that, as i seem to miss it more often than i’d like to admit
Hoby | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 05:16 am GMT -4
I just wanted to add that this episode is constructed in such a great way that it could still go either way from here!
I mean we got Barney who says he doesn’t care anymore – and he could of course, seeing how Robin has broke his heart. But deep down he surely still have good feelings for her.
Then there is Robin , who has to leave at this moment – she had to move out from Ted and will probably get to travel to some cool and bizarre places now. I expect that we will see a lot of phone stories now being told by her (to Lily most likely), to keep Robin as character in the show.
I really think that the answer Robin gave to Ted was the best in the situation she found herself in. If she would say “I love you” (which we know she said already to Ted and was a really big thing for her once) now, this would mean she has to cope someone with the version of Ted that wants a family-life, kids etc. And that she would have to give up on her travelling, work and so on. Additionally, she just broke up with a guy who she agreed initially to marry (!), so she needs time to figure that out.
I know that thanks to that, Ted will now meet the mother – but will it be how the show ends? I don’t think so! I think that producers are now giving the characters the “tabula rasa”, a blank slate – but brace yourself for the last episodes – I think there will be a lot of twists in the final!
Andrea | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 05:52 am GMT -4
The Lyme desease is mentioned in the last episode of house md
Coincidence?
Hoby | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 06:21 am GMT -4
and just btw. anyone else think that “Consuela” maid called by Barney is a nice little link to Family Guy ?
luk | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 06:26 am GMT -4
ted is not over robin i think marshall made it very clear. and ofcourse we are not going to know the mother very well the story is how they meet not how they dated or how they got married. and after what marshall said in the end it is very clear(it can not be more) that ted can end up with robin. and ofcousre we all know that barney was not ok with the hole thing, he is just a very good(a very good) friend. and for the ones who say all the time they want barney and robin together i have to ask why? they were terible together. when they broke up barney said robin i am not happy, end of the story. robin can marry somebody else (rememder the dude in the club).
luk | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 06:36 am GMT -4
and i have to ask don’t you hate lily again.she is betting against ted for no reason. marshall was just supporting his friend. so maybe she broke them up just for the bet. even marshall said ”lily not that way”. friends are supossed to try to give you good advice, not to try to mess with your life for a bet. even if she believes that they are not meant to be together she could just say it and not try to make ted go to russia and look like a fool. bringing and robin in a very uncomfortable situation.
Anna | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 08:04 am GMT -4
Hello! First time poster from germany!
Robin doesn’t love Ted…end of story. They won’t end together, it doesn’t make sense! Maybe she will end up with Barney, because she’s still in love with him (she was at the beginning of this season!) but i think she will never be Ted’s wife.
And: I love this blog!
Shammy | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 08:32 am GMT -4
This was an epic episode. I was great to bring it all back together and make sense of what has happened throughout the series. I always knew that Ted still loved Robin, becuase I am similar to him and put myself in his shoes, I would still be in love with my ex, especially if we lived together!
Anyway, I’m a Robin and Ted fan so I’m glad Marshall didn’t pay up, but I’m also glad the story is moving forward now. This is the first big, important episode we’ve had in a while, regarding Ted’s wife.
@waxcr – In ‘The Exploding Meatball Sub’ all of them are together, so Robin will still be a part of the group. They all will drift apart as is expected when you get married etc but they all are still very good friends.
Waxcr | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 08:35 am GMT -4
@shammy
Will rewatch that episode today, thank you for the info.
Miniver | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 08:55 am GMT -4
Hi guys!
I need your help, I can’t find the music of the season 7
On the website we can only have the music of the last seasons
so if anyone knows how can I find this, please tell me
PS : I can’t wait for the new episodeeeee !
Miniver | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 09:06 am GMT -4
And I almost forget to say that this episode was for me pretty good, I mean Ted can finally move on, so as Robin maybe with Barney and like some of you said that make sense and now i’m looking forward to the next episode and the final… I’m sure the producers -like always- will be surprising !
(I’m new on this blog, but I already love it!)
Schnookums | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 09:28 am GMT -4
Will Ted get a new roommate now?
sandyrivers | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 09:33 am GMT -4
anyone remember an old old episode (season 4 maybe) where Lily admitted to breaking up Ted and Robin?
luk | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 09:34 am GMT -4
maybe barney will get the room close to the bar that he always wanted..lol
ross | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 09:35 am GMT -4
@Waxcr Also notice the tears in her eyes and lack of a wedding ring on either her or Barney’s finger. Barney is on his fake death bed but Robin is standing with Ted and LAME. She does not look like a wife. I think this future look is a little un rewarding to those shippers on either side Ted/Robin/Barney. But to all the posts above it will never be TED ROBIN… MOVE ON ITS OVER.
luk | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 09:39 am GMT -4
yes sandy thats what i am saying all the time. maybe they be still together if it wasn’t for that. they avoided to tell us when marshall and lily made that bet, because if it was before of that this means that lily is a very very bad friend. if it is after that then it is not so important.
Salmonking | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 09:45 am GMT -4
not to beat a dead horse…but there is ZERO chance that Robin marries Ted after the kids mother dies…what father in his right mind would refer to the kids step-mother and his wife as AUNT ROBIN …eeewwww. This theory is insane. let’s get some legit suggestions…sorry to be negative but i feel like i’m watching Fox News and people are just ignoring the facts cause they want to believe in it.
luk | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 10:02 am GMT -4
dude he is refering to her us aunt because they now her as aunt robin. they always called her like this. and the theory says that he can be divorced or samething and then he tells to his kids how he met their mother. and remember he starts the story from the day he met robin not even a day earlier and we can not ignore that all the facts point to something more in teds and robins story(the most recent marshall in the end of the episode). maybe they will never be together but we can not say for sure. and even when she told him no she still wanted to keep their deal when they get 40(maybe it is not over for her, maybe she still feels something for barney, maybe she nows that barney wants her and she doesn’t want to be the problem between ted and barney, or maybe she could not be with ted for the same reason she could not be with kevin, and she nows how much ted wants to have kids. or it can be all of the above together).
luk | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 10:05 am GMT -4
and i forgot to say that maybe he is still refering to her as aunt robin because the kids do not know about them.
Salmonking | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 10:11 am GMT -4
7 seasons of FACTS say she is not the mother.
pocert | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 10:57 am GMT -4
I know that it’s irritating like hell, but I LOVED the ending line of Marshall – he told it with such a smug look on his face, with such a self-conifdence! That’s like the producers saying with his lips “so you all have been thinking that you know how this ends? Bite me, you know squat”
LOVE IT.
Salmonking | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 11:07 am GMT -4
i see it a little different. i see Marshall’s quote as, “I just wanna f*** with you people so you will continue your insane rants that Robin is the mother…i know this will fuel the fire and keep speculation going even though a thousand times we have said that she cannot be the mother (or step-mother), people will read this and keep hope alive.” C&T are laughing hysterically at this one.
i feel like i’m being negative, please don’t read it that way…love the show and love the different opinions. i understand WHY people want to keep the hope of Ted/Robin alive (nostalgia and romance), i can’t can’t see HOW people can still think this…they have said in a hundred different ways that she is not the mom and that they will not resort to trickeration or some underhanded slimy loophole when it comes to revealing the mom. the real questions we need to be asking is “Will the mother be a character we have sort of known or someone completely out of the blue” and “Will the actress be famous or fresh?”
luk | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 11:09 am GMT -4
no she is not the mother nobody says that she is the mother. but everybody say that you can not say for sure that she is not the one that ted ends up together when he is old. it is not the first time in history of man kind that somebody has kids with an other woman and years after he grows old and dies with an other one.
luk | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 11:17 am GMT -4
no he said it exactly the same way as the other times. and as we know he nows his friend better than anyone(see the house story). and maybe he knows more things(he didn’t just go to the room said you have to move out and left) that we will see but it is not for sure something not important. it is not the first time that somebody gets rejeacted and later things work out. it is not only ted who lived with his ex the same thing applies to robin
ross | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 11:26 am GMT -4
I think the two lead actresses from CHUCK would make great additions next season. Either one could be the mom. Sarah Lancaster has been mentioned in many blogs as a potential Wife for Ted and so would Yvonne Strahovski.
Waxcr | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 11:55 am GMT -4
@ross
Will rewatch some episodes for sure. Thanks again for the clarification!
luk | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 11:58 am GMT -4
sarah lancaster looks like the better choice. you could totaly say that the kids look like her, but yvonne no i do not buy it she is very tall she is blonde and as barney would say ted will never hit that. not that lancaster is not hot.
ross | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 12:15 pm GMT -4
@luk Yes you are correct but Yvonne would look good on the Show. I am sure Barney would hit that. Yvonne could be a new bartender, Ha HA.
Solo4114 | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 12:17 pm GMT -4
ROBIN AND TED DO NOT END UP TOGETHER. Give it up, folks. We all love Robin (although sometimes she irritates the hell out of me…), but she is not the great love of Ted’s life. She is not the Mother, she is not the Wife-After-The-Mother. Robin and Ted do not end up together and that is a GOOD thing. Robin and Ted are not right for each other.
I think this resurgence of “but, but, what if…” business, however, highlights that folks are ready for Ted to find what he’s looking for. Sorry guys. Patience is a virtue. This is the very FIRST step for Ted in finding what he wants. Well, the first of the last steps, that is. We are at the beginning of the end, and that’s a good thing.
Ted has let go of Robin. I don’t think Future Ted is lying when he says it, either, or stretching the truth. I think it’s real, and I think it’s essential to his growth as a character.
Here’s the thing. Many times in life we secretly (or not so secretly) pine for someone we can’t have. We do this for a variety of reasons, but I think many times it’s because it’s simply safer to do that than it is to really get out there and really risk getting our hearts broken, repeatedly. It’s easier to deal with the daily low-level frustration that putting all that energy and focus on someone from whom you already know the answer, than it is to try it with someone new and take that leap…and maybe land flat on your face. The problem with playing it “safe” though, is that “safe” is a lie. It’s not safe. It’s just familiar and easier.
I think we often do this out of fear. Fear of disappointment, fear of being hurt, fear of the unknown. Ted has had his heart broken two times, and arguably a third. Robin, Stella, and to a much lesser extent, Zoey. I think, especially after Stella, it left him really really afraid of going for what he wants. (Which is why he ended up with Zoey.) He’s held himself back for a while because he always had that “safety net” of “Well, we still have our deal of getting together when we’re 40…” to fall back on. But that kind of thing honestly holds you back. It keeps you from really taking the big risks that you need to take if you want to find love, or at least the kind of love that Ted’s looking for.
I don’t think Robin’s done him any major favors either. Robin…much as I love Robin, and much as she comes across to me as very real…there are aspects of Robin that just piss…me…off. Robin is frequently a danger to herself and others. The “got it together” girl we saw in season 1 has proven to be a mask behind which MAJOR fears hide, and unfortunately, Robin is simply reactive to those fears, usually without thinking (at least until it’s too late). She lurches from one bad decision to another, leaving wreckage in her wake because she has yet to get her shit together. She recognizes the right decision when it’s presented to her (as with Marshall saying she has to move out), but she won’t make it herself, usually out of selfish reasons. Put simply, Robin has yet to grow the hell up.
Her reaction to Ted saying he was moving on was “But we still have our deal when we turn 40, right?” Her reaction to Ted saying no, that they were “Better as friends” was…apparently…to stick around indefinitely until Marshall smacked her in the face with a dose of reality. See what I mean about being selfish and needing to grow up? Robin consistently has shown that she wants to have her cake and eat it too, and that she wants a life free of consequential decisions. Or at least when she decides, she always ALWAYS wants an escape hatch in case it proves the wrong decision. That isn’t how life works, though, and trying to live your life that way (as Robin does) frequently leads to your life being a mess (as Robin’s is.)
Now, for a while, I thought that Robin would ultimately end up with Barney. I still think that’s possible, but I also find it increasingly likely that Robin will end up alone, or at least not with anyone within the time-period that we see. IF she gets married, she’ll be the last one of the group to do so. IF she settles down with someone (without getting married) it’ll be after everyone else. Again, still possible she ends up with Barney, but…a lot less likely, I think. Certainly after this episode.
Now, as for Marshall’s final “Not yet,” I read that two ways. Marshall won’t pay up because (1) he’s betting on Ted by betting against Ted. By that I mean he wants to make CERTAIN that Ted is finally happy and with someone before he gladly pays Lily what she’s owed. And/or (2) Marshall thinks Robin and Barney could still end up together, and is holding out on payment until that happens and it truly removes them from the board, leaving the way FULLY clear for Ted. Because, even though Ted is finally letting go of Robin, there may still be some small part of him that will always wonder “What if…” until Robin gets hitched.
He’s a lot more able to move ahead now than he’s ever been, but he’ll wonder (not pine, mind you, just wonder) until Robin’s truly completely unavailable. Maybe Marshall sees that and is therefore holding out hope for it, for the sake of his best friend.
Salmonking | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 12:32 pm GMT -4
I need a LIKE button for Solo
Salmonking | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 12:35 pm GMT -4
Here are the Vegas odds as it stands today:
50% – Carly, Barney’s half sister
30% – Someone completely new that we have never met
10% – Victoria Cupcake
5% – Michelle Tanner
2% – St Patty’s Day Bump Girl
2% – Season 1 Dating Service Perfect Match Girl (Milk Episode)
1% – Coat Check Girl
0% – Robin
Erik | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 12:40 pm GMT -4
Did u know Connan O’brien was an extra?
luk | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 12:49 pm GMT -4
@salomkin dude she is not the mother nobody thinks that all we say is that she may be the love of his life.
@ross i didn’t know she was going to be at the bar. thats awesome. yvonne is great and yes barney will definitly hit that. times like this i wish i was an actor so i can have i hot scene with yvonne….lol
and lancaster i think is going to be awesome if she is the mother she is sweet she can look kind of goofy and she is also extremly beautiful.
and stop rooting for barney and robin if you think there are enough facts that she is not going to be with ted, there are millions more that she is not going to be with barney(she never ever never said anything about having a future with barney, nothing, she can not she her self married to him).
so to finish i have to say that we may need to get a life..lol just to many comments for one episode
luk | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 01:12 pm GMT -4
@solo you just say this because you know she is not the mother. how is it possible to think that it is easier. ted is not going anywhere because he LOVES robin not bacause he is afraid. and for the marshall thing…have you ever seen this show? i mean dude it is their style to do this kind of things like the clock sound when ted asked zoe if there is something there and she said NO but after some time we all know what happens, or withe barney wedding last season ending or like the guy at the bar when ted says but thats ahead on the story, and he said that in many other times. the same thing is what maeshall said, it is a hint of what is going to HAPPEN.
i do not mean to be sarcastic or anything so do not get mad or anything….
rosa | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 01:19 pm GMT -4
Sorry just my wish that Yvonne would make it on the show as a hot bartender or in the club like Karma. JUST WANT TO SEE MORE OF HER now that she is done with the NBC show CHUCK. But still a nice rumor to start maybe it could become true.
ross | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 01:26 pm GMT -4
Hard to type on the phone watch NBA highlight and eat Lunch at a Restaurant. Anyway everyone have a great week we may have another great show soon.
Isa | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 01:26 pm GMT -4
Ted and the mother don’t get divorced. He loves the mother, he always refers to the mother as the love of his life, he always says she’s awesome. And as far as I remember he always talked about her in the present, so I don’t think she’s dead in 2030.
Solo4114 | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 01:39 pm GMT -4
I’ll try to explain.
It’s easy to stick with what is known, familiar, and comfortable…even when you also know it’s wrong or it’s never going to happen. It’s easier to focus your energy on something where you already know the answer is “no” than it is to walk away from it and (A) not find anything else to focus your energy on, or (B) find something, think you really have a chance, and then find out, nope, you didn’t. In a weird way, it can hurt MORE to go for something where it’s a tossup as to whether it end well, than it does to go for something where you KNOW it won’t end well. If you’re chasing something you know is wrong for you or is unavailable, well, you already know the worst that can happen: exactly what’s happening now. If you’re chasing something where you have no idea how it will go, then there’s the real possibility it could go FANTASTICALLY, which makes it all the more painful if it doesn’t go fantastically.
To put this into the context of the show, Ted has held on to hope that he’d “win the lottery” with Robin for a while. I think he did this because it’s easier, safer, and in a way less risky than getting out there and finding either (A) nothing that interests him (which in turn may mean that his fantasy-girl is totally unrealistic), or (B) actually FINDING his fantasy-girl…and getting his heart broken again.
It’s the same reason why he dated Zoey, when everyone knew she was wrong for him. Even Ted. It’s easier to date someone who’s wrong for you, in a way, because if it goes sideways on you, you can always say “Eh, I knew she was wrong for me.” You don’t risk as much in a relationship like that. Same deal when you’re chasing the unattainable. You don’t risk much because you already know the answer.
Robin is wrong for Ted because she doesn’t want the kind of life he wants, because she’s DEEPLY screwed up, and most importantly because she doesn’t want Ted. And the truth is, I don’t think Ted actually wants Robin. Ted wants a VERSION of Robin which doesn’t exist. “Robin-but-not-Robin.” A Robin who is warm, affectionate, likes the mushy romantic stuff he likes, wants kids, etc. Say…that doesn’t sound ANYTHING like Robin. Perhaps that’s because that’s not who Robin is, and Ted holding out hope that Robin will turn into Robin-but-not-Robin is a pipe dream — and one that holds him back from finding what he really ultimately wants.
And as for the Marshall thing, I think they like to leave a bit of ambiguity, and there’s probably more to the story with Robin, but the “more” to that story is not going to be that they end up together. Could be more drama, sure. Could be she and Barney end up together, and Ted’s at once happy for them and wistful that it wasn’t he who got to be with her. Could be something else entirely. But it won’t be them together.
As for the notion that Robin/Barney is an impossibility, I’d say it’s a hell of a lot more possible than Robin/Ted in any sense, including as Wife #2. I mean, it’s not like in the first episode of the series Future Ted said something like “Robin and Barney never got together.”
I do think it’s a lot LESS likely at this point, given that both have said they’re over each other, they made an effort, and now that’s done. On the other hand, bear in mind that Ted said to both of them “You love [Robin/Barney.]” At that moment, yeah, maybe they were done with each other. But Ted’s comment might plant the seed for more. Which would also tie in to Marshall’s “Not yet…” comment, if they end up together and he then says “NOW I’ll pay up.” A wild theory, sure, but certainly possible.
The way I see it, Ted truly is done with Robin in any meaningful way. That’s not to say there might not still be some kind of drama, but it completely undercuts the meaningfulness of this episode if, after seeing a sea of yellow umbrellas, after saying “Forget it, we’re better off as friends,” after Marshall convinces Robin to leave and Ted says he felt happy, the world was full of possibilities and opportunities….they just make him relapse into pining for Robin. That would essentially make this past episode completely pointless, and while the show definitely plays around with viewer expectations (IE: Symphony of Illumination), that is one Jedi Mind Trick too far, my friend.
Solo4114 | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 01:44 pm GMT -4
@Isa, you posted while I was typing, but yeah, exactly. NOTHING that Future Ted has said indicates, suggest, hints, etc. that (A) they’re divorced, or (B) she’s dead. Everything he’s said about her is in the present tense. I have no idea where this whole “But what if the Mother is DEAD?!” thing came from, but…no. Just…..no. Not gonna happen. Harry and Hermione get together before Robin and Ted do, ok? It ain’t gonna happen. In an alternate universe, yeah, they’re a scorching couple. In this (fictional) one? They’re really good friends and that’s it.
Salmonking | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 01:51 pm GMT -4
i think i know the problem. Ted/Robin wishers takes quotes from the present day characters and try to find a way for it to happen. they construe a present day character NOT saying it can’t happen as gospel and say there is a chance cause that is how they should feel. plenty of what is said byt the present day characters can be interpreted many different way and are purposely ambiguous. Now the Ted/Robin realists take the hindsight 20/20 facts that the future characters give us…after knowing how it all turns out and Marshall has paid his money…and we go from there. so Luk and I are in agreement that Robin is not the mother…but no way he talks to his kids about his ‘new’ wife as AUNT…it just won’t happen. and Robin is not, in anyway shape or form, the love of his life. his wife, the mother, the living being that he is married to in 2030 fills that role. please stop going by what the present day characters haven’t said and start understanding what the ‘in-the-know’ future characters can give you.
and no worries Luk, i’m not hating on you..if anything i have a friend or two in my life that i might be channeling my Robin hatred towards…maybe i’m just so far against her as a character that i don’t want to believe it. i kinda have the same love affair and hope for Victoria…love her character…and as much as it pains me to be 90% sure that she is not the mother because the facts are against me…i still root.
btw, have i mentioned i think the mom is Michelle Tanner (Ashley Olsen) from Full House…just sayin.
pizzaboySP | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 02:35 pm GMT -4
Can we get a round of applause for Solo4114?
Well said my friend. I think you have some very good insight into Robin’s character and you articulated them really well. I couldn’t agree more.
Also, I love your bit about Marshall betting on Ted by betting against him. I think that’s exactly something that Marshal would do.
ross | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 03:18 pm GMT -4
@Salmonking Victoria… You just had to bring her up again. Oh I think they messed up more with Her than Robin. Victoria saying to Ted that she REALLY LOVED HIM just broke my heart. She was everything he needed. That is what the “Mother” will have to be measured against in my mind. Ted and Victoria just clicked.
I think someone mentioned in a Post in the last couple of Weeks that the Wedding Dance, to the clean up crews CD player, was one scene we always remember from HIMYM as a perfect TED moment.
Anyway in one of the DVD sets I have I think they say she is definitely not the mother. The writers rule her out completely not even 10 percent chance but I wish.
Also she can not be because we have seen her with TED. They have met and I mean in the carnal way so she can not be the Mother.
Solo4114 | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 03:41 pm GMT -4
Glad folks appreciate the posts.
As for the Mother’s identity, at this point, I honestly don’t think she’s anyone we’ve met or seen, other than obscured views (ankle, back with hair covered by hat, etc.).
I’m not even really sure it’s “Carly,” simply because that seems…too easy, I guess. I suppose it could be, of course…but….
I guess the way I see it is that for a lot of folks — especially the romantics like Ted — you don’t get your “perfect” person. Not the way you envision them, anyway. They may encompass the majority of the things you want, but I think they tend to be more than that and in ways you’ve never even really conceived. I’m not married myself, but friends of mine who are and are still over the moon about each other ten years on have said that, in many ways, they never could’ve even begun to dream each other up. Like, if they were building the perfect partner, whatever they came up with on their own would have barely scratched the surface of who they ended up with.
I think whoever Ted ends up with is someone Ted never could’ve begun to imagine, even in his wildest most “perfect girl” fantasies. So, in that sense, I think that whoever the Mother turns out to be is going to be someone none of us could ever have conceived of either. Meaning she’s not “Carly,” she’s not “Bump Girl,” she’s not the coat check girl, etc., etc., etc. She’ll come completely out of left field and while there’ll be weird connections (Cindy’s roommate, maybe she tried that same dating service from Milk, etc.), she’ll be, like, someone’s 1 at the wedding who didn’t have a serious date, and brought their friend instead. Something totally random like that, that no one EVER would’ve guessed.
Salmonking | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 03:57 pm GMT -4
@ross…i’m with you 100% about Victoria. i keep trying to invent ways that the FACTS are wrong and she is the mother, but i know its not true. i wanna believe that a buttercup flower looks just like a yellow umbrella…or she’ll leave Klaus at the alter and come to Ted, or Ted meets her at her wedding…or she made it back from Germany to be at the St Pattys party or got an economics degree to help manage her finances with her small business…or something. but its just not gonna happen. the 10% Victoria is wishful thinking. i keep that door open just like the Robin supporters keep theirs open…knowing it will never be. so i get where Tuk (and others) are coming from.
Chris Atl | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 04:25 pm GMT -4
Given the show’s history, the mother will most likely be a new actress. They continue to bring in big guest stars for ratings. It would be quite inconsistent if they didn’t do it for the biggest reveal in their show’s entire run.
Also, the mother can’t be Robin. In the “No Tomorrow” episode he says that the mother was at the St. Patrick’s day party. Robin was at Marshall and Lily’s apartment.
And, in season 1, episode 1 he says that the woman he met at the bar was “aunt Robin,” and specifically not the mother.
If we’re going to guess, the best line is probably on whoever the guest star is at Barney’s wedding. If they show her face. Which they probably won’t.
However, it is interesting that Barney’s wife (assuming it’s Quinn) is a blatant callback to previous episodes. They must have layered something in there…somewhere…to connect the dots.
Salmonking | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 04:54 pm GMT -4
Barney’s Wedding is to Quinn…but he probably won’t marry Quinn…he prob debating between Quinn or Robin (with return of Nora a poss wildcard for the role of Quinn or Robin). This will be the season finale and as we know, it begins to rain and Ted is without an umbrella…he will go outside for a cigarette (we know it will be his last) and there will be a woman under a yellow umbrella, of whom we cannot see her face. now it either fades to black there, or the camera focuses in on her face and then it fades to black…depending on how they want to play the cliff-hanger.
for my taste, i don’t see if being much of a cliffhanger if they show her face and we have absolutely no idea who it is (new character). the true cliffhanger lies in either a) we only see the umbrella and have a whole off-season of speculation or b) we see the face and the face has meaning.
doesn’t matter either way really, the shock factor will be there.
Shammy | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 04:59 pm GMT -4
@Salmonking – I think you’ve hit the nail on the head there mate. Victoria isn’t the mother, we know that. People who really liked that relationship are still rooting for it, even though there is no hope. Us Ted and Robin fan (well the majority of us) are the same, in that I’d love them to be together and I’m rooting for them, all the while knowing that it isn’t going to happen. There’s nothing wrong in hoping!
I can see why people get annoyed at Ted and Robin fans for thinking up ideas of wanting Robin to be the mother. It is frustrating watching people hang on to Ted/Robin knowing that they don’t end up together, but that is what they want to see happen so there’s no harm in them wishing it to be. The show itself does a good job of giving Ted/Robin fans that little bit of hope to go on, which is why it’s so great.
I can totally understand though, as I know many people are Barney/Robin fans and I am not one of them.
As for Marshall saying “not yet”…. I don’t know why some people are upset or annoyed at that? Marshall has every right to not pay up until either Ted or Robin are married so they can’t end up together. After all of the close calls that Ted/Robin have had (which were eluded to in the episode) and they history they have, Marshall is right not to pay up. As far as he see’s it, they still can end up together, he said he thinks they’re meant to be together. It is just something that is he said, I think people are looking too much into it.
Saying that, I still do think there will be something else between Robin/Ted which is why that was put in the episode (as well as to keep us Ted/Robin fans happy/hoping) but it won’t be them getting back together. Perhaps another moment of feelings resurfacing (possibly for Robin this time) and nothing coming of it.
Rey_s | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 05:08 pm GMT -4
@Chris – I think Quinn’s dots will be somehow connected to Barney’s missing playbook. My feeling is she was the one who picked it up and that started her interest in learning who Barney really is…
Rey_s | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 05:11 pm GMT -4
forgot to add – did you guys see the article that said lynsy fonseca may be grown up enough to play the mother:)
luk | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 05:52 pm GMT -4
http://www.tv.com/shows/how-i-met-your-mother/forums/thomas-cobie-should-have-been-the-mother-we-screwed-up-14994-3353202/
intresting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Salmonking | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 06:24 pm GMT -4
that is why i like this blog…every single post there was outrageously negative and borderline suicidal…we are well behaved and well adjusted here.
Jordan | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 06:34 pm GMT -4
SK,
That is JD and mine’s idea. We do the write-up, then let you folks, ranging from intelligent to down-right looney, duke it out.
Solo4114 | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 06:38 pm GMT -4
@Salmonking,
Yeah, but we’ve also been fairly negative this season. Even though the show is ha-ha funny on a fairly consistent basis, the charm of the show and the long-term viewer rewards have been…rather sparse this season. When they hit it, they HIT it and knock it out of the park, but when they’ve been off this season, they’ve been pretty off…and we’ve had a LOT of off episodes. Again, always funny, but certainly not as rewarding a season.
I’m wondering how binge-viewing will change my attitude on this if and when I go back and rewatch this season start-to-finish. I really think that binge viewing is a major factor in finding coherency even in the weaker seasons. I enjoyed Season 6, I gather, much more than most here, simply because I watched it straight through in multi-episode chunks over the course of a week and a half or so. I could see the through-line a bit easier, even in the episodes that were pretty far off. Plus, I didn’t have to wait for that next good episode to hit — I just clicked “next episode” and off I went. I suspect this season will be similar, especially if they manage to finish really strong and avoid more clunkers and one-off episodes.
@Luk, (or is that a capital i?)
I think the comments there make sense. Josh and Cobie have tremendous chemistry, just as Josh and Ashley Williams did. I think this is why people dig the Ted/Robin and Ted/Victoria pairings so much. Even when Victoria was only back for one episode, MAN you could see the chemistry. They just….worked together.
I suppose that’s what makes it hard to walk away from the notion of “But what about Ted and Robin together?” Similarly, Cobie and Neil have solid chemistry, so I think that’s part of why people still “ship” Robin and Barney.
That board seems…negative, and also sort of oddly focused. Frankly, I think the trajectory of the show ought to be that they reveal the mother either right at the end of this season, or first episode next season. They’ll get away with AT MOST three episodes of not showing her, but then they gotta pay it off. At which point, the rest of the season shows the burgeoning relationship. Yes, the show is How I MET Your Mother, but come on. Who here doesn’t want to see how that develops, wrapping up with a wedding and some flashes forward to the kids being born and maybe a fadey-montage-thing of their lives together leading up to the point where the kids are on the couch?
Olive Theory | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 06:46 pm GMT -4
I’m still hoping Robin ends up with Ted in the end. I can’t get over the blue french horn, him making it rain for her and etc. There is just too much there for something not to be up with this I think. When Marshall said not yet it made me think even more. I can almost see Ted getting married and Lilly saying pay up and Marshall saying it again not yet. To me theirs is the the true love story that has been playing out. I just don’t see them making me care as much about the mother as I do about Robin.
Salmonking | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 06:47 pm GMT -4
i like the idea of a spin-off or a large portion of a full-season of HIMYM dedicated to the same story we’ve been watching for 7 season from the Mother’s point of view. i always like movies that go back and show you what was right in front of your eyes and you’ve missed all along. it would be cool to have a pay-off for a lot of the close calls throughout the years…but that might be just me.
Niels | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 06:58 pm GMT -4
Well, last week I had my doubts about the ending, but it turned out really well. Maybe it was a bit forced, I would rather have got two or three episodes to let the Ted-Barney-Robin triangle evolve in a more natural way, but you can also be a fan for the surprise element. I loved almost everything and I hope that the long-term betting box will become a recurring theme like the slap bet or the ‘major’ thing between Ted and Robin.
The thing I loved the most about this episode was how mature Barney handled about everything and not the Barney who talks about his enormous penis syndrome or how much he loves his penis.
And for the first time in a while we had again a yellow umbrella scene at the end and that’s what i love about HIMYM: no matter how funny it is, the major reason you keep watching is to get some clues about the Mother and to see Ted get back on track.
@Jordan: I have to disagree with you on the ‘Not yet’ part at the end: it’s not a bad thing. It keeps the tension going. Like you said, it could be a red herring, but that’s a part of HIMYM: the writers enjoy misguiding people by giving fake clues to build the suspense. And it’s still Marshall: he’s always positive about everything and that’s part of who he is. So don’t try to read to much into this. Shutting the door between close friends completely is impossible. That’s why Ted expressed his feelings in the first place. You never know what could happen: feelings can change, look at Robin and Barney, who would’ve guessed at the beginning that they would have a relationship and maybe even more. I think his words were meant for Robin; she is so messed up that she doesn’t know anymore what to feel. I’m certainly not a Ted and Robin-fan, but you still have to keep every possibility open. For Ted, the door is closed, but maybe not for Robin. But then again, it could be a red herring.
All in all, I have to say that this is the best episode of the season so far, before ‘Ducky Tie’. After this monday’s episode, I think we have the old romantic Ted back. Robin was Ted’s roadblock, but now that that’s been dealt with, we have a nice road ahead of us and the search is back open for Ted… The best is yet to come!
qaywsxedc2 | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 07:45 pm GMT -4
Really, I have to say this is one of my favorite episodes by now. Since it was aired I watched it several times, and it’s getting better every single time I see it. Just overwhelming. In my opinion the ending of this episode is the most meaningful and greatest until now. Very emotional with a touch of relief and with the peace of conscience that Ted did a huge step towards his own hapiness.
But I have to disagree with you on the “Not yet.” Marshall gives us at the end. Sure, WE all know that Robin is not going to be “the Mother”, and this is totally fine, but how is Marshall suppose to know that? No, he doesn’t know, and he is happy with it as well. For now he just knows Teds deep feelings for Robin and as his best friend he does not shed the hope for him that both might end up together anyways. This is true frienship and independant of any bet between him an Lily.
Ross | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 07:51 pm GMT -4
She is not the Mother until they probably get married so he could take his time getting to know her. Before the Biblical getting to know her happens. Take it slow Ted. They do not have to get Married until the last episode. This could be the final Pay Off. No need to hide her next season. I like the idea that we will get to know his new Gal over season Eight. I have no problem being positive. Just give us something to be excited about. Episode continuity. Tell us the Story, show us the story.
luk | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 08:00 pm GMT -4
@solo yes it is LUK( not i)
nobody thinks that they do not have chemistry, i am just saying that they where miserable together, she could not stand him and he was getting fat and unhappy. they were good together at first but they could not make it work and they ended miserable. and of course we want to see the mother meet the mother and find out how is she like.but over the years i think we kind of know how she is(hoping that ted will not end up in a bad marriege, sadly this can happen in real life, think of marshalls father funeral everybody was ungry why was there a very sad episode in a comedy and the answer is that death is part of life). i hope that we will meet her but to tell you the truth i do not see it happenig there is to much build up. they can not even decide her face so imagine how hard is going to be to writte that role.
@salmonking dude nobody talked about hate. it is not possible to hate somebody who loves this show. everybody can have their own opinion and hearing them turned to be very intresting(for hours now we talk with total strangers)
Leah | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 09:16 pm GMT -4
I liked Robin and Ted together. I know I’m one of a very small group that did. There is just something about those two that I keep rooting for. I hope they end up together in the end. I didn’t like robin and Barney together. They just didn’t seem like ago is fit. Great episodes this season I’m a huge fan.
Honka Honka | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 09:27 pm GMT -4
I think that if the writers really want to put Barney and Robin together in the end, then they are going to have Quinn be the bride at the end of this season, and then us RoBarn shippers will have to suffer all summer and parts of next season until we find out that the wedding doesn’t go so well and he choses Robin…
paipr_christian | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 09:34 pm GMT -4
just to make sure there is no confusion, i dont want ted with robin. 7 to 8 to who knows 9 or 10 seasons of build up only to find out that something happened to the mother and robin is the one ted ultimately ends up with. bleh, bad taste in my mouth.
that all said marshals comment is annoying, cause it makes you wonder, perhaps for some reason ted doesnt end up with the mother, but robin. which as i and others have speculated begs the question why wouldnt he. the obvious options are death or divorce. the later makes the aforementioned bleh, into BBBLLLEEEHHHHCCCKKK!!!!! whilst the prior actually could make sense from a story telling stand point. future ted telling the kids about his journey to meeting the mother is sweet and romantic. but also gives them incite into there aunt robin and fathers relationship/friendship.
it could also take care of the possible frustration of finding ourselves at the end of the series having met the mother, but not knowing why she deserves to be the mother. it leaves it at this sweet point of, there she was, i met her, it was amazing i loved her, and we got married had you two, but something happened. and over time your aunt robin helped the family to the point where she was a member, and now we are together. and if i remember correctly back in the christmas episode future ted did say that robin was never alone. perhaps thats because she was helping teds future family.
frustrated | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 09:37 pm GMT -4
i used to really like robin for ted..as in A LOT but after her hooking up with barney…i’m like YUCK..i lost a lot of respect for her.
and anyway, if ever barney and robin got married, in reality they would end up divorced eventually. i just dont think their relationship will really survive. so ROBIN AND TED!
Mevman44 | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 09:41 pm GMT -4
Why is Future Ted telling his children the story of How He Met Their Mother?
I think this is a great question to ask.
The obvious answer is just so the kids know the story, but if that was the case why not just start at the wedding where he meets the Mother? Why start the story with Robin?
Some would say (and I would agree to an extent) that this occurs because Ted meets the Mother through Robin in some way, shape, or form. But I think there is a little more it than to that.
The next time you watch the show, listen to the way Future Ted speaks about the Mother. It is in a loving in a way that reminds me of how one would talk about a love that was inspiring at a time, but is no longer there. It’s almost like he is trying to paint a picture for his children showing that he truly loved the Mother.
In episode 717 ,”No Pressure”, it is revealed that Marshall and Lily bet on whether Ted would end up with Robin (Marshall says that they will end up together, Lily says that they won’t end up together). In that episode, Ted seems to give up on Robin. But at the close of the episode, Marshall does not want to admit he lost the bet and pay Lily, saying “not yet” instead.
I think that the writers would not leave this door open unless they intend to use it at a later time in some way, shape, or form.
I think that Lily will lose the bet, but it will not be apparent until 2030. Ted does end up with Robin, but only after meeting the Mother and having children with her. Ted is telling the story to show the kids that he did love the Mother for a long time, that he loves them, and that he has always had feelings for Robin.
Ted is telling the story to prepare his children for the announcement that he and the Mother are GETTING DIVORCED in 2030. He is going to say that he loved the Mother, but he is supposed to be with Robin.
In this way, the bet is settled at the end of the series, and the finale will consist of Robin and Future Ted being together.
TEDANDROBIN | Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012 09:42 pm GMT -4
gosshh! ROBIN’S NOT ONLY BREAKING TED’S HEART…BUT MINE as well!..i need to let go of the idea that ted will end up with her!!!!!!
Rebecca | Thursday, February 23rd, 2012 12:11 am GMT -4
I was really excited to see the back of the mother’s head! I hope they keep showing scenes like this of Ted interacting with the mother, just not showing her face. This would be a good way to gradually introduce us to the notion of the two of them together, but at the same time keeping up the suspense!
soondobu | Thursday, February 23rd, 2012 01:13 am GMT -4
perfect song for the ending. if anyone looked at the lyrics:
And I’ve been fool and I’ve been blind
I can never leave the past behind
I can see no way, I can see no way
I’m always dragging that horse around
ted, you’re almost there.
sometimes, you do need one giant kick in the butt to get your ass out into the world to meet that person. as much as it hurts him to move but really like he said, honest rejection is the best kind. plain and simple it will not work on a long term. love and marriage are different. the show seems to explore that idea that ted will always love robin, but his end goal is marriage. his goal is kids. and somewhere i read that for guys, at some point it is about the girl you love but once you get a certain point, it’s just about meeting a girl at the right time, at the right place, who wants the same thing as you.
THANK THE WRITERS FOR FINALLY MOVING FORWARD THE STORYLINE. the whole season has danced this triangle thing.
RandomName | Thursday, February 23rd, 2012 02:08 am GMT -4
I thought this was a really good episode. It had a good mixture of things that made me laugh and things that were poignant. It also didn’t feature any guest stars (unless you count Coco in the background). It was nice for the focus to be solely on the gang.
Anyways, I think this was a very necessary step for Ted to be able to move forward with his life and eventually meet the Mother. I think it was probably good for Robin, too, to not think of Ted as her backup anymore. While Ted and Robin living together for the last couple of years has clearly worked for them on the surface, the fact of the matter is that living with an ex would always be kind of weird, and I think Ted especially was holding back in a lot of ways because of it.
I really enjoyed Ted and Barney’s conversation about Robin. Great acting there by NPH. He clearly isn’t over her, but obviously doesn’t care that she’s single because he doesn’t think she’ll ever love him anyways, Kevin or no Kevin. I did laugh at Ted saying something to Barney about how mature he was being about the whole thing, and then Barney saying “Thanks, now let’s watch our two best friends have sex on tape.” LOL
solo4114, I really enjoyed reading your posts. Some great thoughts about Robin. I honestly think they’ve gone overboard in making her a “mess” this season. She was never this far gone in the past, but she has hurt Kevin (though he doesn’t know about it, I guess), Barney, and Ted this season. I don’t think she’s doing it on purpose, but I think it’s more that she’s just has these impulses that she acts on, and then she doesn’t want to deal with the fallout from it, so she blames it on being a mess and completely ignores everything. Here, at least she told Ted she wasn’t in love with him. It wasn’t great of her to have to have Marshall tell her that she needed to move out, or Ted to have to be the one to break their backup marriage pact, but at least she did that one thing.
I do disagree in that I don’t think Robin will end the show single. I used to think that about her earlier in the series, but not now. They’ve made too big a deal the last couple of seasons about how Robin doesn’t want to be single anymore, and after she accepted Kevin’s marriage proposal, she basically made it known that she’s ready to get married now, and that he’s a nice guy so that’s why she said yes. On top of that (and I think this was an ill-advised decision by the show, but oh well) after last week’s episode, they’re making it seem like Robin thinks no one will want her because she’s infertile. Of course, it’s ridiculous, because Kevin was fine with Robin’s infertility and just had a problem with her not wanting kids, period, but that’s kind of how it’s playing out to me.
So in that sense, even if I don’t think the show should’ve gone there in the first place by making Robin infertile, it did. And now I think if Robin ends up single it’ll be like saying that she’s a) too screwed up to ever have a healthy relationship and b) she couldn’t ever find anyone to love her because she’s infertile and doesn’t want to adopt/use a surrogate. Granted, in real life, it’s true that some people might not ever have a healthy relationship because they are THAT screwed up, or because they don’t want kids and can’t find anyone else who also doesn’t want them. But, I don’t feel like HIMYM is that show. HIMYM shows how life sometimes sucks, but it’s okay, because everything that happened, good and bad, had to happen in order for everyone to find their happiness. If Robin hadn’t been shown to actually want a relationship (and now, apparently, marriage) then I would say they could end the show with her happy with a successful career. Now, though, after all they’ve done with her, if she ends up single it’ll just be depressing.
queenfluffernutter | Thursday, February 23rd, 2012 02:28 am GMT -4
I have been searching the internet since this eppy aired and have one BURNING question: Why all the purple? Did no one else notice? My daughter and I have been obsessing and getting no answers. Help?
marine | Thursday, February 23rd, 2012 04:20 am GMT -4
@queenfluff, someone asked Carter that same question on twitter…he seemed to have played it off but who knows why all the purple..?
i just watched the episode again and truth be told this show would never be as great as it is without the incredible cast, they’re all fantastic!! and all of them can handle comedy and drama beautifully. i think they deserve a SAG for best cast for this season alone…
i totally came on here to point something out and now i can’t remember…ill have to come back, wah wah wahhh
ross | Thursday, February 23rd, 2012 05:19 am GMT -4
The Barney Wedding times out after the LAME baby correct?
So the Wedding is after what Date at the Earliest? Given Lily’s recovery from her having the Baby Boy. What was that nick name that she hated for him?
Just trying to remember when in real time Ted will first meet his wife at the Wedding (if this takes place at the beginning of Season 8). Also trying to figure out how long it would take Barney to plan a Wedding get all the guest together etc.
Scenario 1) Robin
Scenario 2) Quinn with time to date and make a decision
Anyone want to tackle these time tables?
Olive Theory | Thursday, February 23rd, 2012 08:00 am GMT -4
I believe the mother is dieing or has died. I don’t see this being overly morbid considering we aren’t going to get very long seeing the mother. Now if they did a whole season of the mother then maybe I’d warm up to the idea more. I know Robin isn’t the mother as others have stated, and I’m not saying he ends up with her for sure. I just think it’s possible to say it isn’t is ignorant. They’ve made it very possible for this to happen. Not saying it will, but stating a fact that it’s very ignorant to say it can’t happen.
Salmonking | Thursday, February 23rd, 2012 09:35 am GMT -4
@ross
Scenario 1) Robin
Scenario 2) Quinn with time to date and make a decision
don’t forget
Scenario 3) Nora and Barney were on a runaway train towards marriagetown…if she returns, the courtship would be incredibly brief…Nora is a longshot, but still a viable candidate for the Bride (not necc the Wife)
Solo4114 | Thursday, February 23rd, 2012 09:54 am GMT -4
@RandomName,
Yeah, I don’t particularly like what they’ve done with Robin’s character either, although I do think it’s realistic and honest. I know people like Robin, or people who’ve at least done some of the stuff she’s done — making one bad decision after another in a desperate attempt to find a quick-fix solution to their deeper issues, rather than confronting their demons head-on. Also, I ABSOLUTELY know people who live their life wanting to have their cake and eat it too. That’s an incredibly common attitude that I find among folks in their late 20s/early 30s, and it’s not just limited to women. Guys do it too.
The kids thing, for me, is a prime example of how this manifests in Robin. She’s said all along that she doesn’t want kids, but was devastated by the news that she couldn’t have them. Now, before folks jump on me about how that’d devastate ANYONE — even someone who doesn’t want kids, because our culture so ties fertility to sexual identity — let me just say that THAT’S NOT WHAT I’M GETTING AT. Robin’s reaction to this was that she didn’t want kids…but wanted to know she could change her mind. Where’ve we seen this before? Oh, right! With how she deals with Ted. I think it was back in Season 6 or so when someone gave her crap for being jealous of Ted (probably Ted himself) and she admitted that while she didn’t want to be with him…she liked knowing he was available as an option if she changed her mind. Unfortunately, given how the writers have written her, this is now “Classic Scherbatsky.” “Well, I don’t want it, but I want to know I CAN want it later if I change my mind.” Like I said, life without consequences. Which is impossible, of course.
Robin has now, as pointed out, hurt three guys pretty deeply: Ted, Barney, and Kevin. So, at this point, I see her character arc as going one of two ways. The first is where the writers give her a happy ending with Barney. She gets jealous again of Quinn, follows her pattern and makes a move on Ted as a result (“Not yet…”), and ultimately Barney and Robin end up married. It’s a sitcom-y ending, of course. Unrealistic, but also emotionally satisfying for many of the viewers.
The second option is the “downer” ending, which I think is a bit more “real” but also a lot darker — which makes it less likely. This IS a sitcom, after all. One with plenty of pathos, but still a sitcom and not a tragedy. In this scenario, Robin ends up alone and probably focused entirely on her very successful career, but at the expense of having a satisfying personal life. She never really settles down, and gets her dose of family time from being an aunt to the kids. She blew it bigtime with three solid guys, and never really recovers from that. I suppose she could also end up married and then divorced (perhaps multiple times), too, but in either case, she becomes an object lesson for the kids: confront your demons, or they will lead you to ruin. As I said, that’s pretty dark, though, and uncharacteristic of the show.
That brings me to one of the bigger disappointments for the writing this season. When the season opened and Robin was in therapy, I thought it’d lead to her really confronting and working through her issues. Then, of course, she did what she always does and ran from her problems, which triggered a chain reaction of BAD DECISIONS, and ended up crushing two guys in the process. True-to-life, but disappointing. Robin’s the kind of character who reminds me of friends you have where, you can see what their problems are, you know they could work through it, but you know that they won’t until/unless they’re finally ready. “You can lead a horse to water…” and all that. Meanwhile, they engage in self-destructive behavior, and behavior that hurts other people too. It’s incredibly frustrating to watch, but true-to-life. It’s also why I want to smack Robin sometimes and say “PULL YOURSELF TOGETHER, DAMMIT!!”
Anyway, I find it harder to see them leaving her alone, but I also really don’t see them pulling off introducing a new character for her to find happiness with before the show ends (which I hope it does next season). So, that leaves her with Barney…or alone. I suppose there’s one other option where they end the show with some passing reference to her ultimately getting married to “Your uncle Steve, but that’s a whole other story…” and he’s shown with his back to the camera or something. This’d sort of be an “in-joke” to how the Mother’s been handled for the life of the show. Hell, maybe Ted could say “Have I told you that story? Oh, that’s a good one” and then get interrupted by the Mother or something.
Salmonking | Thursday, February 23rd, 2012 10:16 am GMT -4
ok…question. does anyone know where the best place for SPOILERS and (even moreso) a complete rundown of the FACTS we already have about the mother can be found. as great as this site is, the predictions page hasn’t been updated in quite some time. every time i look for the spoilers, there was an episode called “Spoiler Alert” and i end up getting those search results. i wanna review where we stand…in detail.
any suggestions?
ross | Thursday, February 23rd, 2012 11:12 am GMT -4
There are so many sites over the years with SPOILERS and hints but after Season 7 would probably be the Best time to start laying out the WHAT IFs. I just wanted to start a discussion about the possibilities for Season 8 because I see it as the closing of this Story… and I have no other show on my viewing list when this one ends.
Isa | Thursday, February 23rd, 2012 11:21 am GMT -4
@Salmonking
http://how-i-met-your-mother.wikia.com/wiki/The_Mother
Salmonking | Thursday, February 23rd, 2012 11:48 am GMT -4
Thanks Isa…i’m gonna browse
Samantha | Thursday, February 23rd, 2012 01:50 pm GMT -4
does anyone watch Once Upon a Time here? The actress that played Zoey is the main character and I have an instant dislike for her because of what she did to Ted! Irrational, I know, but I can’t get past her being SO obnoxious on HIMYM! Glad she’s gone!
Salmonking | Thursday, February 23rd, 2012 02:47 pm GMT -4
i watch…good show. the dialogue seems to be written by George Lucas, but the premise/concept is really good. and i hate Jennifer Morrison on that show…and i actually liked her on HIMYM (strictly cause she was pretty hot). but she looks haggard on Once Upon a Time. and she can’t act her way out of a paper bag.
Negar | Thursday, February 23rd, 2012 03:34 pm GMT -4
@queenfluffernutter, somebody mentioned this in a thread: purple is the opposite of yellow. That was a sharp observation and there could be lots of analysis on that. I might do it later when I’m not sleepy. Kudos to the production designer, BTW.
maria | Thursday, February 23rd, 2012 04:48 pm GMT -4
@Negar
Wow, that’s deep. And, if so, most definitely complements the ending of this relationship and establishes the marked difference it has for Ted when comparing it to his relationship with the mother.
ross | Thursday, February 23rd, 2012 05:11 pm GMT -4
@Samantha Yes I watch and go to onceuponafansite.com to see her. Mel and Liz from chucktv.net run that website. Jennifer Morrison fits much better on that show than the zoey from HIMYM. the actress Gennifer Goodwin wears the same kind of hats that Ted’s future wife did in the last episode photo. She is about the same size but I know it is not her she has a tv series for next season.
Stinsonrocks | Thursday, February 23rd, 2012 05:37 pm GMT -4
Hey everybody,
I just want too point out certain observations I have made over the course of this season…..
*.After tick tick tick ,this is the second episode to feature purple color and both had major relationship stuff between ted/barney/robin.
* The metaphorical use of ‘Ducky tie’ in ‘the best man’.and its appearance whenever barney dates someone other than robin.(He wears it from naked truth to disaster averted then gets rid of the tie AND hooks up with robin on the same night.He will be be wearing it again soon as seen in the Atlantic city flash-forward probably while dating Quinn ………
* The ever increasing barney’s lust for lily could point towards the mermaid theory incident coming up soon .
* Marshal’s “not yet” means that while ted has got closure over robin, but robin is yet to have the same as she still see’s ted as a fallback option,she hasn’t sorted her feelings for barney and almost forced Kevin to take his proposal back and Kevin being a shrink realized her feelings and voluntarily moved out of her way.
* My best guess for the mother is the girl from episode milk because ted literally chose robin over her and it has led him on this dwindling journey.Moreover the episode milk and matchmaker (both involving the company love solutions have great foreshadowing moments from entire series like a dermatologist who is compatible with ted for Stella, robins new hair color for blond robin sparkles,the title milk which plays an important role in season 4 when robin moves in with ted,it was the first to feature ted’s birthday which has been a major turning point in the story,and it might be the only episode where the creators themselves made a guest appearance.
the other candidates are ‘a girl we haven’t met yet’ and ‘Nora’ as we haven’t seen her ‘baggage’
So where the series is heading…
* LAME they look pretty much settled except for their house which might change as seen in the most recent flash-forward with the baby.
* ROBIN cb&ct had said in the pre-season interviews that this will be a huge robin season and we will get to know why ted started telling the story with the day he met her.After 17 episodes we have finally gotten to that part and there is surely more to come.
* BARNEY the main mystery throughout this season has been the identity of his bride. I think he will marry robin as they are more suited for each other.But this has been a kind of Ross & Rachael thing for the past 7 seasons right from zip,zip,zip (Quinn cant be the person barney ends up with because the future ted’s joke at the end of belly full of turkey would be rude)
As for the exploding meatball sub scene I think the writers deliberately didn’t show rings on robin and barney as then it would have been obvious as to who is barney’s bride and then season 7 would have been futile.it might be possible that ro-barn end up together without marrying as they aren’t the ones who believe in commitments.
* TED although he is the narrator but he has never been the main character in the show except for seasons 1,2 and some parts of 3 simply because the writers didn’t have enough material to tell his story for 7-8 seasons.Also these were the times when he was truly involved with someone (and since the story is from his point of view ) he focused more on his own life rather that of his friends.As for the mother, i think her face and identity will be revealed in the series finale although she might feature in more episodes.
Vanessa | Thursday, February 23rd, 2012 05:57 pm GMT -4
Hi everyone, first time commenting, long time following the blog. Anyone else noticed the guy staying behind ted during the “i love you” scene with ted and mother? It’s Marshall! No big deal there, but I found it curious!
luk | Thursday, February 23rd, 2012 07:14 pm GMT -4
@vanessa no thats not marshal it is just a random dude. and he has grey hair
ross | Friday, February 24th, 2012 11:25 am GMT -4
is zooey deschanel currently under contract with anyone for a show or movie. E online (jan 11) or the posts underneath had her listed as a potential Mother and again the spin off names of How I met your Father (Lyndsay Fonesca could play the mom) How I married your mother etc.
I say just end it after 8 but anyway they could do a nine and kill it like SCRUBS did that series.
I had not read the article for awhile. it sounded plausible that CB/CT could use zooey deschanel .
Gingerteadrinker | Friday, February 24th, 2012 11:40 am GMT -4
This may be a really rubbish theory but here goes (apologies if some one has mentioned it above, I did check the comments).
The fact that Ted and his wife are seeing Wedding Bride 3 – could it be that the first wedding bride was Stella, the second is Barney’s wife (Robin/Quinn/Nora/?) which leads Ted to the third and final wedding bride – the mother?
maria | Friday, February 24th, 2012 11:49 am GMT -4
@Gingerteadrinker
I have been thinking absolutely the same thing. Or that it at least refers to his three real loves: first real closure was with Stella, second real closure with Robin, and he ends up with the mother.
That being said, what was said about purple being the complementary color of yellow has really stuck with me. I started googling purple and HIMYM and bumped into the Purple Giraffe from season 1. Did anyone else notice the abundance in purple there too, and the kid stuck in the machine bc he was trying to catch the purple giraffe? Coincidence?? Idk, I’m starting to think that was a hint from the start that Ted is crazy trying to catch Robin and gets stuck. Now that he’s finally let it go, he’ll be able to find him “complementary” color.
maria | Friday, February 24th, 2012 11:53 am GMT -4
Ok, I take back the “three real loves” thing. Victoria obviously was as well. Which is why I think her nickname Buttercup – yellow – is a brilliant way to show that she was actually a perfect complement to Ted, but because he was stuck on Robin, he let her get away.
Salmonking | Friday, February 24th, 2012 12:03 pm GMT -4
@maria…Google “Buttercup” and look at the images. this is a main reason why i always thought there is still a chance that Victoria is the mother. everyone always assumed that Buttercup was a cupcake reference, maybe it’s a a yellow umbrella reference…they sure do look alike.
Solo4114 | Friday, February 24th, 2012 12:04 pm GMT -4
Three things:
1.) Ted’s already had three great loves: Victoria, Robin, and Stella. If you want to count Zoey (I wouldn’t), we’re up to four. I suppose you could argue that Victoria wasn’t a “great love” given that he attempted to cheat on her with Robin.
2.) DEAR GOD DO NOT LET THE MOTHER BE ZOOEY DESCHANEL. I’m sorry, but the “Manic Pixie Dream Girl” is NOT the girl for Ted. Plus, she’s annoying as hell. I could see her having been someone Ted dug when he was in his early to mid 20s. Not anymore.
3.) VERY interesting stuff with the purple/yellow thing. I’d never thought about the giraffe, but, yeah, Ted really could be seen as that kid who got himself stuck in the machine, chasing the damn purple giraffe without realizing what he really wanted was the yellow umbrella all along.
maria | Friday, February 24th, 2012 12:17 pm GMT -4
@salmonking – Yes! I had done so before (at your suggestion on a previous blog I think).
@solo – Agree with the first thing you said. I misspoke (or mistyped). I agree with @gingerteadrinker saying that its a reference to the three important weddings in Ted’s life.
Solo4114 | Friday, February 24th, 2012 12:21 pm GMT -4
@Salmonking,
I suppose it’s possible Victoria could show up and say she didn’t marry Klaus (although she came close — they had a fight. Over what? A clause. In the prenup. That Klaus suggested. So, yes, it was Klaus’ clause that let them come close, but the deal? They never closed it.), but honestly, I think that bus has left the station, so to speak.
Victoria is one of those people where you probably would be perfect with them, but the timing was just off. Robin’s the kind of person that you THINK is perfect for you, but really isn’t. And Stella is the kind of person you think is the perfect antidote for the person you thought was perfect for you…but actually turns out to be poison.
Salmonking | Friday, February 24th, 2012 12:41 pm GMT -4
Solo…i’m in agreement…i know Victoria is not the mother (95% sure), but i am one of those people that just hold out hopeless hope for it. the one thing i will say is that all of the stuff that people claim has been said that debunks Victoria is speculation, not Facts…as is the case with Robin. i think about the statements that Ted has said about when he finally meets the mother and i say, techinically he never said it was the FIRST time he met her…he just says he met the mother at the wedding (never said it was his first meeting with her). no reason she couldn’t have been in an Econ class as a small business owner. she was back from Germany just in time for the St Pattys party…and maybe she pulls a Stella and leaves Klaus for her ex (being Ted)…who knows…i know it is a longshot and i am just trying to rationalize…
but as for who CB/CT think is the mother…they have known since season 1 (at latest 2) who their idea of the mother is…so i usually go by the things that happened in those 2 seasons for my clues…once the show became succesfull, they started adding twists and turns to throw us off and delay until they knew the series was closing in on completion.
and i love Zooey Deschanel…but The New Girl is pretty succesfull and has already been picked up. btw, that show is freaking hilarious.
maria | Friday, February 24th, 2012 12:58 pm GMT -4
Ok, this purple/yellow thing is freaking me out. Anyone google the flowers and colors at Marshall and Lily’s wedding????
ross | Friday, February 24th, 2012 02:18 pm GMT -4
Salmonking I would take your 5 percent on V I C T O R I A… loved that song in the episode this season. Just think it makes more sense for the story if it is a total stranger to the past 7 Seasons. Otherwise some fan group is going to be extremely upset.
If it is Robin Barney they will not last.
If it was Ted Victoria, I could not see Robin being Ted’s close friend in the future with the Kids. I do not think Robin would get along in a three friend scene with Lilly and Victoria like in the Wedding Dress cake disaster. Robin has hard feeling towards Victoria in the Show.
Chris Atl | Friday, February 24th, 2012 03:40 pm GMT -4
I wouldn’t read too much into Marshall’s “not yet” at the end of the episode. They probably threw that in to spawn debates such as this. Which are fun.
Thinking about this season’s finale, I here by change my mind. Instead of looking for the 1 guest star, they will probably have 5-7 ‘special guest stars,’ and Ted will meet all of them – along with other people invited to the wedding, like Wendy the waitress. We then get to debate all summer about which one is the mother.
Per Barney, I think that Ducky Tie theory has legs. He asks, in the premier, whether he “chose the right tie.” A statement that out of normal conversation lends itself to a foreshadowing reference. And he has worn the Ducky Tie whenever he is dating a girl who is not the mother. And, in this past episode, he didn’t say his feelings for Robin were gone, just that she didn’t have the same for him.
ross | Friday, February 24th, 2012 03:46 pm GMT -4
You mean the Ducky Tie and Barney’s wife/not wife are tied together.
Solo4114 | Friday, February 24th, 2012 04:06 pm GMT -4
It’s been a while since I saw the season opener for this year, but as I recall, the exchange went something like this:
“Ted, did I pick the right tie?! And by tie I mean girl.”
Ted reassures him and says “Remember the Ducky Tie?” and they both sort of laugh ruefully.
Nora was the Ducky Tie. He put “her” on as a challenge, not because there was any real connection. Soon as that came off, BAM. In the sack with Robin.
Now, if the Ducky Tie goes on again with Quinn….I think that’s the giveaway that it ain’t her he ends up with. If it doesn’t, then we have no idea what the casino thing is, or what the timing for it is. Or who Steph is, since we know it ain’t Marshall’s son.
Salmonking | Friday, February 24th, 2012 04:15 pm GMT -4
@Chris Atl…love your idea about a bunch of ‘Mother’ options at the wedding for the finale, leaving us with a veritable Choose Your Own Adventure summer of fun! one could admit to playing bass guitar, while the other could hint about having an Economics degree, and even one or more could be toting a yellow umbrella. what a great way to hang the cliff!
Honka Honka | Friday, February 24th, 2012 04:35 pm GMT -4
I wonder if there is a possibility that Barney’s bride is Heather, Ted’s sister.
That would give the bride a reason to want to see Ted. It’s a possibility!
Thoughts?
ross | Friday, February 24th, 2012 05:49 pm GMT -4
Yes I remember now and the Ducky tie was related to the Lily boob bet. and we all know most everything Barney does is related to BOOOBS and suites of coarse.
Kiana | Saturday, February 25th, 2012 02:56 pm GMT -4
OH MY GOSH EVERYONE! I think I just realized what could happen in HIMYM! I think Ted marries Robin, but b/c she can’t have children, and possibly b/c they meet the “mother” of their children at Barney’s wedding, they somehow adopt these children or something like that! I don’t remember anywhere in the show saying that he necessarily marries the mother of his children? Or even if it does, maybe at times he’s referring to the adoptive mother of his children, aka, Robin! Also, I think that the writers have only stated that “Robin isn’t the MOTHER” I don’t remember them explicitly saying she isn’t Ted’s wife!! What are your thoughts?
Krupal | Saturday, February 25th, 2012 09:31 pm GMT -4
I thought Buttercup was a reference to Princess Buttercup of Princess Bride fame.
Megan | Saturday, February 25th, 2012 09:55 pm GMT -4
Loved this episode! Lots of great LOL moments, finally HIMYM is back on track!
What I’m still looking forward to:
- Ted in a dress
- Flashback of Barney and Marshall at the Casino
- Robin and crazy shirt guy
So exciting!
RandomName | Sunday, February 26th, 2012 02:57 am GMT -4
@ Solo4114
Yeah, I completely agree with you about Robin. She’s someone who, quite realistically as you mentioned, wants a life without consequence. It can be very frustrating to watch. And I, too, was disappointed in what they decided to do (or not do, rather) with the storyline of her going to therapy. I thought it would be a very effective (if cliche) way of giving us some insight into her character, since Robin is notorious for bottling up her feelings, to her own detriment and many times those around her. I also felt, like you said, that it would be a positive thing to see her confronting some of her issues, but unfortunately her therapy sessions basically ended after one episode. Missed opportunity.
I thought at first that Robin dating Kevin was going to basically be an extension of her going to therapy, that she would learn to open up to him as her boyfriend since he’s a therapist and he knows how to make people comfortable enough to talk. Weirdly enough, though, their relationship almost went the opposite way. I felt like they never talked about anything remotely important.
Like you said, it’s possible that realistically, someone like Robin would never deal with her issues enough to ever have a functional long-term relationship, and that she might just throw herself into her career and only hang out with the rest of the gang occasionally as the years pass. But, that is a somewhat darker ending. HIMYM does try to add a dose of realism to the show, but always with the caveat that things worked out as they should, or something/someone better was on the horizon, etc. Like Ted has had an awful lot of ups and downs (mostly downs lately) in the romance department, but it’s okay even when terrible things happen to him because we know he eventually gets that happy ending he’s been dreaming about since 2005. So, I feel that it’s more likely that this is probably going to be the low point in Robin’s life, and that things will end up looking better for her from here on out. Or at least, I hope so.
White_Choc | Sunday, February 26th, 2012 08:59 am GMT -4
@Kiana: Why should he take the surrogate mother of his children out on a date and say to her that he loves her?
riki | Sunday, February 26th, 2012 12:59 pm GMT -4
@stinsonrocks ….I liked your comments..except for comparing robin and barney to ross and rachel…. barney is a great single ladies man ross was not…barney=joey….. rachel is the hot girl that everbody dreams of so is robin that comparison is right…but TED IS ROSS…he is a bad single guy dorky whiney…also ted from the start was crazy for her as soon as he saw her…barneys first words for her were “yea you know she likes it dirty” …so no i dont agree with that comparison, barney is more like joey….and thats why im a ted and robin guy…even tho they messed that up from the start by saying its aunt robin…and i agree that they wont end up together…i just dont get why ppl want barney and robin…the show becomes so lame when barney is in a relationship
doppelganger | Sunday, February 26th, 2012 06:34 pm GMT -4
So, did anyone else notice that at the very end, when Ted is leaving the bar, that Barney’s phone is ringing? They made it quite obvious, which makes me think it’s important. Perhaps Robin calling to see if she can stay with him?
andy | Sunday, February 26th, 2012 06:45 pm GMT -4
respect, really nice blog!
scaifington | Monday, February 27th, 2012 05:00 am GMT -4
if barney marries robin then it makes sense why ted started the story with the day he met robin. robin didn’t just appear, they had to meet, ted had to date her, barney had to kiss her, they had to fall in love, fall apart, barney had to grow, robin had to grow, get back together, married, where ted meets wife. barney’s sister hopefully
Gingerteadrinker | Monday, February 27th, 2012 05:40 am GMT -4
Another ridiculous theory: what if the Mother is the date he never went on in ‘Milk’? The girl the dating agency matched him with but who he turned down because she wasn’t Robin. What if it was her all along and he could have solved his angst quite some time ago?
Solo4114 | Monday, February 27th, 2012 11:24 am GMT -4
@Gingerteadrinker,
Actually, that one’s been put forth several times and, as I recall at least, there’s nothing yet to suggest that the Mother ISN’T the girl he would’ve been matched up with. Frankly, I expect it to be her. Although, as I recall, he didn’t meet up with her because he drove out to meet Lily, who then left him stranded, at which point Robin came by and picked him up in the news van with her goofy hair (I forget what the explanation for that one was).
I don’t, however, see it as “Ted could’ve avoided all the angst if he’d only picked differently earlier.” Maybe that’s true, but maybe Ted-at-26 (or 27?) wouldn’t have been able to make it work with this girl because he lacked the experience and understanding of himself to really make it work.
My own view of life is that, ultimately, your experiences make up a huge part of who you are. If you’re ultimately pretty happy with who you are as a person, then even the bad experiences, the ones you regret, the shit you wish you’d done differently, all of that brought you to where you are today. So, while you can learn from the past, there’s no need to regret it.
I think in the end, people only really have regrets if they aren’t happy with where they are now. When Ted ends up with the Mother at the end of the show, it won’t matter that it took him just shy of a decade longer to find her than it might have. Future Ted seems genuinely happy with his life. So, if that’s the case, then who cares that it took him 8 years to find her? He found her. He’s happy now. He’s got these two great (well, we assume great) kids that he can tell this Homeric epic of a love story to. He has a good life. If a painful, funny, goofy, confusing, frustrating journey ultimately got him there….then it was all for the best. Even the really, really stupid parts like getting a butterfly tramp stamp.
Earl | Monday, February 27th, 2012 11:47 am GMT -4
I wish that the cleaning crew were Max, Caroline and Sofi (all from 2 broke girls), he he he.
Noodle | Monday, February 27th, 2012 01:23 pm GMT -4
I think it will definitely be the Milk girl, he missed that date because of Robin, (Lily left him stranded, so Robin picked him up, he decided to spend time with her instead of going on the date). The reason we started the show with meeting Robin, is because of that. He’s had many chances to meet the mother already, (Milk, St Patricks Day, Econ etc), but they wouldn’t have worked before. Ted has needed these years to become the man he needs to be to meet the mother.
Also, Barneys wedding will probably not be at the end of this season. I’m assuming the baby is born at the end of this season, and Lily is definitely not pregnant at Barneys wedding.
Also, Barneys bride could simply be asking for Ted to make sure Barney is ok/still there. She doesn’t have to know Ted as well as Barney does.
I used to think that Barney and Robin would end up together (since the episode with Battleships in season 1), however after seeing the Bro parenting episode, I think no kids could be a deal breaker for Barney as well.
Anyway, that’s my 2 cents on the matter
chermatti | Monday, February 27th, 2012 05:11 pm GMT -4
The only problem with the milk girl being the mother is that in the episode “Girls vs. Suits” in S5, Ted says that he heard the first description he has ever heard of their mother when Cindy describes her roomate. In the episode “Milk”, Ted hears a description of the woman from Love Solutions over the phone.
It is a line they could probably work around but it would need an explanation or hardcore fans will be dissapointed by the lack of attention to detail. And himym usually does a great job paying attention to details like that.
Solo4114 | Monday, February 27th, 2012 05:19 pm GMT -4
You sure about that? I thought there were a couple different women and they didn’t give him the info on the one who he was set up with. Or didn’t give him a lot of info.
I dunno. It seems to me to be the kind of thing they’ll work around. I also don’t recall him hearing a single description of her for the first time from Cindy. I thought he got information from Cindy, but it wasn’t as if she gave him a dossier on her. I’d have to go back and watch, though.
Bruno | Monday, February 27th, 2012 09:44 pm GMT -4
Did anyone catch Barney doing the Single Ladies dance during the Ted-Stella wedding flashbacks?
tony | Monday, February 27th, 2012 10:27 pm GMT -4
If Robin is the mother then how would they explain that she wasn’t Cindy’s roommate?? To me, it is just that simple
Sword Master | Monday, February 27th, 2012 11:15 pm GMT -4
Wow, 3 great episodes in a row! The writers have really stepped up. I hope to see more of Quinn, she’s adorable. So is Ted moving to the house he bought in season 5?
Honka Honka | Monday, February 27th, 2012 11:47 pm GMT -4
Wow, things are really starting to change. I did not see that coming with Ted being ready to move out like that! Very sweet what he did though for Marshall and Lily…
ross | Monday, February 27th, 2012 11:59 pm GMT -4
I have not seen the episode yet but I did post a week or so ago about TEDs house. I take it from the last two of you that something happened and Ted gave up the apartment above the bar for LAME?
Liam | Tuesday, February 28th, 2012 12:32 am GMT -4
the way I would love to see it go is if the wife is Barneys sister. At the end of this season we see Ted walk up and say hi to her, she smiles and says hi back and it ends.
episode one of the next season starts with footage of them two talking while older ted narrates and then it skips back before the wedding again. The season then plays out leading to the final two episodes at barneys wedding.
the wife being barneys sister will play into it a lot, barney is trying to become a better man so he will want to get closer to his family still, or maybe a loss in his family leads to him spending more time with them, thus as an audience we get to understand his sister and why she is a great match for ted without it ruining the fact they have never met so that when it comes to the final two episodes, we can see how it will play out in the future.
final episodes being majorly romantic, barney leaves his fiance for robin, or we discover the woman her is marrying is robin (although the fact he had doubts before that will ruin their perfect love in our minds) and the gang run away together in the rain and sit under umbrellas as they all discuss their futures.
Pennie | Tuesday, February 28th, 2012 02:44 am GMT -4
I really liked tonight’s episode. I enjoyed how the B and C plotlines (suburbs, and Robin’s old room) come together to be the one related story at the end, especially when it involved another step for Ted in his story. Whoever spotted that Marshall and Lily weren’t in their Long Island house in the flashforward from a few eps back, well caught! Also, Ted is such a good friend to set up the apartment like that. I wonder if he’ll move into his house too. We know he’s been intermittently working on it.
BL | Tuesday, February 28th, 2012 05:59 am GMT -4
NEW THEROY!!!
Call me crazy, but I think we already met Barneys sister!
In the episode where Cindy (Rachel Bilsons character) is making out with the blonde girl at the bar, I think that that girl is Barney’s half sister Carly!!!
FACTS
-they never said her name.
-she has blonde hair like Barney (plus she looks like a Carly).
-we know Carly is a college student, and if she’s dating Cindy then she probably is a college student!
-in the episode Barney and Ted both called dibs on her, so the comic relief is that Barney called dibs on his own sister!
-and to add to the comic relief is that Ted called dibs on Barney’s sister, who turned out to be a lesbian with his ex girlfriend!
- and last but not least, at the end of that episode, future Ted showed us a picture of Cindy and her together with a little girl. And future Ted says that they end up together with a child. Now how in the world would future Ted know that/ have a picture of the family if he wasn’t close to them???
What do you think? Please discuss this, I want to know if anybody else believes this is possible!!
Pennie | Tuesday, February 28th, 2012 06:32 am GMT -4
@BL – interesting theory. If the mother turns out to be Carly, then it’s not possible, because we know Cindy ends up with the woman at the bar. But if that’s not the case, then maybe.
Your last point isn’t necessarily the case. Cindy and the Mother may keep in touch, having been roomates previously. It doesn’t take a lot to have a photo of an old friend’s family, what with facebook, and holiday cards. Or Cindy and the Mother could still be close.
Salmonking | Tuesday, February 28th, 2012 10:12 am GMT -4
now that i think about it, i think the season is going to end with the Mother identity being kept secret for the summer under a yellow umbrella…apparently B & C said that they haven’t cast the Mother yet…so if they haven’t done it yet then we won’t SEE her this season, she may make an appearance but not a full frontal visual.
Stevo | Tuesday, February 28th, 2012 10:14 am GMT -4
Why did I notice a girl wearing like exactly what Ted was wearing in the last scene of him walking on the sidewalk? lol
tep | Tuesday, February 28th, 2012 10:27 am GMT -4
seen today’s episode..KARMA. i’m liking barney and karma together. i don’t know but they really have a lot of chemistry..i hope she’s the girl that barney would end up not robin.
Earl | Tuesday, February 28th, 2012 10:28 am GMT -4
@Stevo
I had to re-watch it. And yeah, there’s a woman with a similar outfit. Good catch!
Stevo | Tuesday, February 28th, 2012 10:29 am GMT -4
No idea if it means anything, or just pure coincidence…but for some reason jumped right out at me.
Salmonking | Tuesday, February 28th, 2012 11:59 am GMT -4
seemed a heavy BLUE theme tonight. moreso, it had a them of transition from RED to BLUE. 1)Robins Room, it was painted RED when she lived there, and then Ted painted it BLUE for Marshall and Lily. 3)The ghost of Robin is wearing RED which Ted needs to exorcise and Ted is painting his pottery BLUE which is his attempt to create something new. 3)Karma is always dressed in RED while Barney is wearing a BLUE suit…this is Barney (good) trying to convert Karma (bad) to the good side. 4)Coats were used to cover up RED in transition, first with Ted who aggressively jams his coat closed, covering his RED shirt, while in the background is a lady in an extremely bright BLUE coat…and Karma at the coffee shop covering her RED shirt with a coat, signifying a covering of her bad side. 5) and let’s not forget the bright BLUE snuggies…not sure of the meaing there, but maybe the suburbs represent safety and a transition that is needed that Robin just couldn’t bring herself to do.
just some food for thought.
maria | Tuesday, February 28th, 2012 12:21 pm GMT -4
@Salmonking
Omg, I totally noticed that, too! So excited that someone else is picking up on the not-so-subtle color cues… I love your explanation for them, bc I was still trying to wrap my head around it.
Taylor | Tuesday, February 28th, 2012 12:41 pm GMT -4
So excited that I noticed one of those little Easter eggs this show is famous for–in the credits to the Karma episode, the names of the other strippers were synonyms for “karma” or “fate”– I saw Serendipity and Kismet listed. There may have been more, but those were the two I caught.
Salmonking | Tuesday, February 28th, 2012 12:44 pm GMT -4
thanks Maria, i normally don’t notice that stuff, but the Snuggies and the lady in the blue coat at the end stood out so much that i just couldn’t ignore it…especially after everyone mentioned the purple/yellow dynamic last week.
g | Tuesday, February 28th, 2012 01:24 pm GMT -4
Anyone find it disturbing that Ted is an architect yet he can’t build a proper chair, table, etc. Don’t go in the new GNB building!
maria | Tuesday, February 28th, 2012 01:32 pm GMT -4
architects design, not build
Stevo | Tuesday, February 28th, 2012 02:17 pm GMT -4
@Salmonking
I did not notice that last night, even after noticing the purple last week :S. I was with my gf and we were talking and watching, I guess I need to isolate myself when watching this.
And I’ve noticed colours for a while. The episode before (or the exact one) Ted tells Robin he still loved her, she had the yellow shirt on.
veggie | Tuesday, February 28th, 2012 02:42 pm GMT -4
I like barney and quinn together. what was so great about robin barney? they were miserable together! just because they grew and learned from their relationship doesn’t mean they are perfect for each other.
ted’s wife probably won’t have blonde hair. remember the scene if stella had been the mom, and it showed two blonde kids sitting on the couch? not that ted couldn’t still marry a blonde and end up with brunette kids, but it just seems like with that scene, the idea of a blonde mother was nixed.
veggie | Tuesday, February 28th, 2012 02:46 pm GMT -4
maria,
some architects design AND build
ted’s just an idiot. and the writers have very poorly represented architecture practice (don’t even get me started!).
ross | Tuesday, February 28th, 2012 02:47 pm GMT -4
SO the Ted and Robin drama show seems to be over and on TV this week they are now both homeless… sort of. We do not know exactly where they are going to land. Ted may have a much better option.
I was hoping for some closure on Lily’s Dad and the bee episode.
Comments have changed a lot now that it is not a yellow Mother centric episode. I appreciate those of you who have most likely pieced together the writers color threads.
Lots of great Ideas. Now I am more anxious… lets me the mom.
I am starting to lean towards Barney and Robin and Quinn is his final getting Ready. Robin was his second, Nora Was his Third and Robin will be the fourth. The pre-Suit Barney girl was the first. I can almost remember her name in the Song was it Shanon?
ross | Tuesday, February 28th, 2012 02:51 pm GMT -4
I should have said Quinn Fourth Robin Fith and Final. We will wait and see!
Amanik041 | Tuesday, February 28th, 2012 03:41 pm GMT -4
Just found this blog post after watching last night’s episode… Really enjoyed reading it. I’ll be watching your blog till the end now!
maria | Tuesday, February 28th, 2012 04:04 pm GMT -4
@veggie Touche!
Regarding colors and such, I have this theory that purple yellow in important episodes means end game. So, Ted is the Mother’s purple, and the Mother is Ted’s yellow. If you look at the episode when Barney and Robin kissed at the hospital, she is in yellow and he is in purple. If you look at Marshall and Lily’s wedding, their floral arragements are yellow and purple. I think that when we see pairs in the same color, it might be indicating that they are not the end goal, because they are not complementing each other… so maybe Quinn and Barney don’t end up together given they are both in purple at the bar, as well as Robin and Ted being in purple in the last episode when she moves out. And that fits perfectly into what I had mentioned previously about the purple giraffe episode. I know I’m not making sense, but it makes more sense in my head.
I also noticed the green… In looking up meanings, green is a “safe” color. Anyone notice that Robin wore green in the pilot, as well as when Nora, Barney, and Kevin were on the boat? Also, Nora wore green when Barney and her were playing laser tag.
Stevo | Tuesday, February 28th, 2012 04:13 pm GMT -4
Gotta say, don’t know many architects who design buildings, then work for the contracted construction firms (the many of them that can take part in one building) who do the actual construction of the building as well? They usually leave that to the framers, carpenters, electricians, welders, iron workers, etc.
Stevo | Tuesday, February 28th, 2012 04:14 pm GMT -4
I studied urban planning and design, but I don’t actually get on my hands and knees and plant the gardens I design in the site plan lol
Stevo | Tuesday, February 28th, 2012 04:23 pm GMT -4
@ maria
That’s a pretty neat theory! Although, that would tell us right now that Barney ends up with Robin, no? Oh well, only time will tell!
veggie | Tuesday, February 28th, 2012 04:25 pm GMT -4
stevo,
At the very least, in college and as an intern, Ted would have had to know how to build models that didn’t fall apart.
ever heard of design-build firms? obviously this is on a smaller scale, not talking GNB-size development.
… but of course, Ted didn’t even go to a college with an architecture program! How hard would it have been for the writers to figure that one out?!
maria | Tuesday, February 28th, 2012 04:51 pm GMT -4
@stevo – Yes! If it’s right, it would mean exactly that. Now, let’s wait and see… I kinda like where the Barney Quinn thing is going.
Stevo | Tuesday, February 28th, 2012 04:56 pm GMT -4
Yes. Aecon is a name that comes to mind. They have a department of the company that designs projects, and another or more departments that take those designs and build them, not a bunch of architects who put on their hard hats and start hammering some nails into boards after they design an 80 storey skyscraper lol
But you are right on the school he attended. It’s an arts school lol, closest thing to architecture is archaeology.
Noodle | Tuesday, February 28th, 2012 05:01 pm GMT -4
I srill think that season 7 is not going to end on Barneys wedding. It is going to end on the birth of baby Erikson. Remember the flash forward of the birth? Seems like a big story. Lily is definitely not pregnant in the wedding scene.
Chad | Tuesday, February 28th, 2012 06:33 pm GMT -4
Working with models (glue, balsa wood, foam) is hella different than wood working. Architects aren’t very practical people.
Sebastien | Tuesday, February 28th, 2012 07:26 pm GMT -4
@ maria
I think you’re on to something with your color theory! Notice at the end of season 5 episode 1 – Definitions, when Robin and Barney walk out together as a couple, we see a yellow taxi cab and a woman holding a very bright purple bag, it can’t be a coincidence!!
(skip to 1:30) http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=lNMsfRRfPR8
chermatti | Tuesday, February 28th, 2012 08:56 pm GMT -4
Hm, interesting! I have been rewatching seasons one and two and it seems like almost every time there is a Ted and Robin centered episode one or both of them are wearing blue, which makes sense considering the blue french horn. Anyway, I thought that was interesting!
BL | Tuesday, February 28th, 2012 09:43 pm GMT -4
@Pennie
Thats true, I never thought about the Mother still being friends with Cindy, since they were roomates. But if the mother doesn’t end up to be Carly, then I definately think that The girl at the bar with Cindy, could be Barney’s sister Carly.
maiki | Tuesday, February 28th, 2012 09:54 pm GMT -4
@veggie: he could have gotten an M.Arch after attending Wesleyan. (Maybe at Columbia?) Given he is teaching Architecture there, he probably has a graduate degree, not just a bachelor’s.
SundaeQueen | Tuesday, February 28th, 2012 10:25 pm GMT -4
@ maria:
I love this yellow/purple theory! Also in Disaster averted, Robin was wearing a bright yellow coat and Barney was wearing a purple tie! This makes me super happy
veggie | Wednesday, February 29th, 2012 11:27 am GMT -4
maiki,
maybe, but wouldn’t they have mentioned that at least in passing in the show? we know marshall went to law school, but never once has grad school been mentioned for ted. they’ve never discussed him getting his license to practice, either. Ted got the teaching job through stella’s husband, even though he’s totally unqualified.
Nate | Sunday, March 4th, 2012 02:00 pm GMT -4
Theory: the finale will have the baby’s birth and some sort of flash forward that will show Barney’s wife.
Nillis | Friday, March 16th, 2012 01:45 am GMT -4
Just saying… when was the last time we saw Barney trashing a electronic device? In season 4, the episode called Benefit. And now, that Ted ask for his “permission” to date Robin – he crushes the VCR… just saying.