• Season 8, Episode 5: The Autumn of Breakups

    by  • Tuesday, November 6th, 2012 04:27 pm GMT -4 • Episode Discussion, Season 8 • 206 Comments

    Welcome back everyone. Please talk amongst yourselves until December, as I will be out of the country starting tomorrow.

    The one thing I’ll say…damn…as much as they screwed up the Victoria storyline up to this point, they sure as hell knocked it out of the park in the end.


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    206 Responses to Season 8, Episode 5: The Autumn of Breakups

    1. Tuesday, November 6th, 2012 04:43 pm GMT -4 at 4:43 pm

      Yeah, that episode was stupid. It was the, “I guess we don’t have any good reason to break up Ted and Victoria other than the one we already used twice, so let’s just go with it.” Dumb.

    2. Jo
      Tuesday, November 6th, 2012 05:58 pm GMT -4 at 5:58 pm

      Really? I don’t agree. I thought it was strange that they didn’t address it earlier. To hang out with the woman who your boyfriend cheated on you with has to be awkward, even if 6 years have passed. I could see myself making a similar request as Victoria.

    3. Tuesday, November 6th, 2012 07:17 pm GMT -4 at 7:17 pm

      Does anybody know the song which was on the background when Ted told Victoria that he’s not leaving Robin ?

      • TAY
        Wednesday, November 7th, 2012 10:54 pm GMT -4 at 10:54 pm

        “Low Rising” by Swell Season……. Beautiful song!

    4. Tuesday, November 6th, 2012 07:29 pm GMT -4 at 7:29 pm

      I actually shouted out “NOOO!!!” when Ted proposed to her. Glad to see her go, but just like Ted I had this romantic memory of her that the storyline disappointed me a little bit.
      Loved Miss Fudge! I hope she stays forever.

      • Monday, November 12th, 2012 02:26 pm GMT -4 at 2:26 pm

        I shouted “NOOOOO!” as well. I’m not a Victoria fan. She is all over the place.

      • Monday, November 12th, 2012 02:44 pm GMT -4 at 2:44 pm

        See, I actually thought that “fit” with the kind of guy Ted’s become since about, oh, Season 5-ish or so. He’s LOOKING for something, and wants it so badly that he’ll keep making the wrong decisions in the forlorn hope that THIS IS THE ONE….except she isn’t. I think he’s past the point where EVERY girl was potentially “The One” (and hence, the parade of skanks who ruin photographs), though. And that, in turn, leads him back to familiar territory: namely Robin and Victoria (and, I hope, NOT Robin again….but I can see where that’d be the case, dammit).

        He said “I love you” to Robin and, essentially, proposed to her last year. She had the good sense to turn him down (again…). So, off he goes to Victoria where he makes another colossally bad decision of dating her when she’s ditching her husband-to-be on the day of their wedding (which, in and of itself, should set off major warning bells).

        I dunno. Something about how it all happened — and maybe it was Josh Radnor’s acting in the scene — but it just seemed like Ted’s heart wasn’t in it when he proposed. He was sort of going through the motions. I think he’d have followed through, and they’d have had a decent life if, you know, Victoria was someone she isn’t (specifically a commitment-phobe), but I dunno. It seemed like Ted had this “You’ll do” quality to it when a part of him knows Victoria isn’t “her” and that explains the lackluster proposal.

    5. Tuesday, November 6th, 2012 07:48 pm GMT -4 at 7:48 pm

      I’m confused about something – in the episode ‘No Pressure’ (where Robin went to Russia), Future Ted said that he had not said ‘I love you’ to anyone since he confessed to Robin that he still loved her…

      now, call me crazy, but I’d think that if Ted was willing to propose to Victoria in this episode, and they’ve been dating for like 3-4 months, and the clock was ‘unpaused’, you’d think at some point ‘i love you’ would have been said.

      Any thoughts?

      • Wednesday, November 7th, 2012 09:50 am GMT -4 at 9:50 am

        Yes my thought was after 6 years of feelings, surprised that “I love you” was not said every day from Ted to Victoria. Everyone knows I feel let down by this part of the story.

        I am still not sure if this is completely over?

        • Wednesday, November 7th, 2012 09:58 am GMT -4 at 9:58 am

          It’s over, man. You gotta let Victoria go. I think the part that might not be over, though, is the “Ted wants to be with Robin” bit. Although, god willing, it won’t drag out too much or end too catastrophically.

          But yeah, I think that the “I love you” thing with Victoria wasn’t an everyday thing — and it may actually be kind of the point that they were just sort of going through the motions of being a couple, without a lot of what’s driving it (which also ties into why Ted was being an idiot by asking her to marry him).

        • Wednesday, November 7th, 2012 12:16 pm GMT -4 at 12:16 pm

          Yes if someone has to tell you that your longtime girl wants a commitment then you are not ready to give her or anyone else a ring.

      • Friday, November 9th, 2012 04:29 pm GMT -4 at 4:29 pm

        Future Ted is an imperfect narrator.

    6. BL
      Tuesday, November 6th, 2012 08:33 pm GMT -4 at 8:33 pm

      Did anybody notice the pillows on Ted’s couch? There was some words and numbers and a picture of an umbrella! Any idea what that means? It could be a clue of the mother!

    7. Tuesday, November 6th, 2012 10:14 pm GMT -4 at 10:14 pm

      Anyone notice all the purple worn in the epsidoe as well? Believe purple was a color in the wedding / was referenced a lot in the first episode, wondering what was behind that…

    8. Tuesday, November 6th, 2012 10:17 pm GMT -4 at 10:17 pm

      I think this wrapped things up perfectly for them. It did not feel like another “Ted still loves Robin.” episode. He never once said anything about loving her. He just wanted to remain her friend, and wasn’t going to give that up just for Victoria (despite that he was willing to marry her.)

      And you know, Ted not wanting to give up his friendship with Robin isn’t JUST about him. Its about Robin, too. Robin LOVES Ted as a friend, despite not being in love with him, and would be devasted if they could no longer associate. Remember when after she said she didn’t love him back last season how he was avoiding her for awhile? Remember how hurt and upset she was? How she said she “lost her best friend” and that “the one person I want to talk to more than anything barely looks me in the eye”? She’d miss Ted. She’d be strong and try to be selfless, but she’d miss him very much. Its not fair to either of them to give up the friendship.

      (Not to mention how complicated it would make the dynamic of the group. She’s so close with Lily and with Barney, and Ted’s best friends with Barney, and Marshall and Lily…weird.)

      Don’t get me wrong, I understand where Victoria’s coming from. I’m in Lily’s position. I understand it, I just don’t support it. I’m happy Ted didn’t do it, but I can’t look at Victoria as being horrible for feeling uncomfortable. She WAS the reason they broke up. *shrugs*

      That dog was one of the cutest little things I’ve ever seen! Dawwwwwwwww!

    9. Tuesday, November 6th, 2012 10:55 pm GMT -4 at 10:55 pm

      What ever happened to Klaus living with Ted and Victoria? In fact, what happened to Ted and Victoria living together?? Suddenly in this episode they have separate apartments?
      Ridiculous. The continuity in this show is practically non-existent these days.

      And you’re right OP, they had no good reason to break them up, they just pulled the old Robin issue out of their asses – again, suddenly, just for this episode.

      • Wednesday, November 7th, 2012 10:00 am GMT -4 at 10:00 am

        I think Klaus moved out around episode 2 or so of this season. The one where he walked around naked. Ted said to Victoria that he had to go, and then I think they kicked him out. What confused it was the “Strange Compatriots” thing at the end of the episode, I think. That gave the impression that he was sticking around when, I think, he wasn’t.

    10. Tuesday, November 6th, 2012 11:32 pm GMT -4 at 11:32 pm

      Ok, so once they hit the part about not telling Robin, I immediately thought “Holy crap, Robin is gonna find out at her wedding to Barney and that is gonna cause all hell to break loose, Ted sitting at the train station not wanting to talk about it to that lady as the Mother shows up”…any thoughts

    11. BL
      Wednesday, November 7th, 2012 12:08 am GMT -4 at 12:08 am

      I noticed all the purple too, thats why I think the pillows are important, but I don’t know what they mean!! And don’t forget that since the last episode with Klause 5 months have passed… they’ve been doing that a lot lately…they did the same thing with Quinn.

      Brett, Interesting theory! But why would Ted be all upset and have a wrapped hand? I just don’t see how that would create so much chaos

    12. Wednesday, November 7th, 2012 03:43 am GMT -4 at 3:43 am

      While I can understand Victoria’s discomfort with Robin, the ultimatum given of “Robin or me” is neither reasonable nor practical considering the group dynamics. Ted could hardly quit his friend relationship with Robin without also cutting all the bonds with the rest of the group, or all of them would have to ostracize Robin. Both alternatives are unreasonable, and the only logical outcome is in fact what happened that Victoria leaves. Interesting question though is what would later have happened when RoBarn marries if Ted really had cut his ties with Robin? Anyway, I can’t imagine Victoria herself not realizing the consequences of her ultimatum. One possibility is that she really wanted to break up, but sort of does it in an underhanded fashion making Ted responsible for the decision. But I don’t think that was the intention the writers. I’d rather agree with the others her that they pulled it out of their old hat of tricks and sort of killed the relationship the easy way. Though it at least didn’t seem to be an emotional cheap-shot. but at least was well executed.
      In a way I’m happy that it’s over, Victoria this season has been a painful experience, I want to remember her the way she was in season 1. Hell, they even messed up her hair this season.
      And I agree fully with whoever it was that voiced the sentiment that they better deliver a hell of a mother.

      • Wednesday, November 7th, 2012 12:30 pm GMT -4 at 12:30 pm

        Marshall and Lily pointed out to Ted Victoria wanted Ted to leave his friends and Move away together. She wanted a new life away from Robin’s influence and Ted already rejected one on again off again relationship about leaving his friends for a girl. This makes two.

        • Wednesday, November 7th, 2012 12:40 pm GMT -4 at 12:40 pm

          Missed that. My bloody subs were out of sync, I tend to miss quite a bit when I don’t have proper subs (I use English subs, isn’t the language per se that’s the problem, but I easily get thrown by dialect, slurs etc.)

    13. Wednesday, November 7th, 2012 09:45 am GMT -4 at 9:45 am

      I was also disappointed with how they broke them up . There were plenty of other reasons to do so. I had my bets that it would be because victoria was that german word klaus used in the first ep. I liked the theory that robin not knowing why will come up at the wedding. The writers have been good at having payoffs half a season later so I hope that happens here. It simplywould have been nice for the thing to not come out of the blue.

      • Wednesday, November 7th, 2012 12:35 pm GMT -4 at 12:35 pm

        just so you know, it was a completly ridiculous german word, noone would ever use that :D

        (I’m Austrian)

    14. Wednesday, November 7th, 2012 10:08 am GMT -4 at 10:08 am

      Apologies in advance for a REALLY long post here…

      I know a lot of folks are pissed about the Victoria storyline and how they’ve handled her character, but I really felt that the end of the relationship with her just…fit. It fit her character PERFECTLY, if you think about how she’s behaved.

      Victoria is a great girl, but she has never, ever been the girl for Ted. The only reason people think otherwise (I’m guessing) is because of the story about how Ashley Williams (who nailed this episode, by the way) was going to be the Mother if they’d been canceled in Season 1. Other than that, although she’s a great girl, she has consistently shown one particular side of her — and Ted finally wised up to it (sort of) in this episode. You see, Victoria is a commitment-phobe. She really thinks she wants it, but when push comes to shove…she bails. EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.

      Let’s go to the replay.

      Example 1: Victoria and Ted meet. Victoria suggests, in spite of the obvious sparkage they’re having, that they do not exchange names, and do not kiss. Fear of commitment right there. If you’re afraid of things ending, you’ll never get started.

      Example 2: Victoria tells Ted she’s been offered a scholastic position in Germany, and they stop to think about whether each wants her to go or stay. When Ted tells her he wants her to stay, she says “I’m going to go. Although, I was going to stay until you said you wanted me to.” Again. Fear of commitment.

      Example 3: Victoria is on the cusp of getting engaged (she thinks) and is in a loving relationship with Klaus, her German boyfriend. So, naturally, just before she thinks she’s about to be proposed to, she invites her ex boyfriend back to her shop, where he will “clean dishes.” Lucky for her, this is Ted we’re talking about (not a great closer), and all they do is kiss instead of making a baking-themed porno. Then, flip it back to Ted’s perspective where, again, in spite of the sparkage, Victoria hops on a bus and runs back to Klaus. Fear of commitment with EITHER guy.

      Example 4: Victoria is due to be married in TWO HOURS. So, naturally, when Ted calls, she suggests they meet at McClaren’s where she decides to run away with him. Now, lucky for her, Klaus came to the same realization, but still. She bailed. Again. Fear of commitment.

      Example 5: Victoria keeps dropping hints about wanting a greater commitment from Ted. Ted, being Ted, doesn’t just ante-up. He goes all-in and asks her to marry him. She says yes — conditionally. Ted must give up a best friend in whom he has no real interest. (Well, so he says, anyway — I’m pretty sure they’ll keep up with that, though. I really do think Ted is, at this point, JUST friends with Robin.) And it is at this point that Charlie Brown FINALLY says “Screw you, Lucy. You’re just gonna pull the football away from me” and stops playing.

      So, what do we notice from all of these examples? That’s right. When someone calls Victoria on her bluff about wanting commitment and marriage and such, she bails. Every time. Every single time. THAT is why she is the wrong girl for Ted. It’s why she’s ALWAYS been the wrong girl for Ted — since day freaking 1.

      So, to my eye, in spite of how they admittedly made Victoria out to be less than the otherwise terrific girl we got to know in Season 1, and the otherwise fairly serious and insightful girl we saw again at the start of Season 7, they DID maintain her as the commitment-phobe she’s been since Season 1, Episode 12: The Wedding and the whole way through the series.

      And Ted, to his credit, FINALLY stood up to it, although perhaps not in a way where he realized what Victoria’s fundamental dysfunction was. Regardless, in another reality, Ted would’ve given up Robin…and Victoria probably STILL would’ve invented a reason to break up with him then or down the road. Actually, it probably would’ve gone like this:

      TED: “Ok. I’ll give up Robin. For you. Because I love you that much.”

      VICTORIA: “No. I can’t do this, Ted. You’d end up resenting me. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but eventually you would. So, no, Ted, I won’t marry you. I have to go now.”

      TED: “WTF?!?!?!?!?!?!!”

      Now, all that said, I’m with Lily on this in regards to the Robin situation. I understand Victoria’s insecurity about Robin in terms of the mechanics. I see the A-to-B-to-C of it. I just think that what it’s really about is Victoria’s insecurity about commitment. The RIGHT girl will not care about Robin. She may even become friends with her independently of Ted. The RIGHT girl will be confident enough in herself and her relationship with Ted, and will trust Ted enough to recognize that he really IS over Robin, that she won’t make demands like that. And she’ll be rewarded for her trust by the most devoted, loving husband she could ask for.

      On to other parts of the episode.

      I actually really like what they’re doing with Nick. He seems loveable, but in a goofy kind of way. He’s less of a wuss, too, but still too much of a wuss for Robin. I did, however, like that he was secure enough in himself to admit that he’s bugged by Robin rushing off to help her ex-boyfriends, but still be cool with it as long as she comes back. Robin’s still gonna dump his ass, but at least that won’t be because he’s a cartoon-character of a wuss.

      The Brover thing was funny. Just enough over-the-top sitcom humor to mix in with the pathos of Ted and Victoria’s disintegration.

      The Marshall-is-Oprah thing was…kinda dumb. The first bit was funny, but they took it a little too far. I liked it better when he finally came back to reality and said “Wow. You’ve gotta tell Victoria no.” I also liked how Lily responded to that — she didn’t agree, but she saw where Victoria was coming from.

      Anyway, I think we’ll get ourselves a mother of a Mother…a little ways down the road. I just hope we get to see her either through a season 9 depicting the development of her relationship with Ted, or we see that in the second half of season 8. Bear in mind we’re not quite 1/4 of the way through the season so far, so we still have time, if Barney and Robin’s wedding is in the middle or at the 2/3 mark.

      • Wednesday, November 7th, 2012 12:50 pm GMT -4 at 12:50 pm

        I guess verbiage goes with the lawyer genes. You’re forgiven :)
        No heavy outpour from me though, just let me say I think your analysis is sensible, with good points and I do think the end of Victoria makes sense, but the journey to the end was mishandled. First of all, I’ll never buy that Victoria bailed in her wedding dress to elope with Ted. That’s a betrayal. She might have commitment issues, I can buy that, but she’s not a betrayer. They could have left the early episode in season 7 as it is, and yesterdays episode pretty much as it is (though I wish they would have given her back her old hairdo) and then written in a different story in between that would have made sense and would have left her true to character (and loveable as she really is) and still have it end as it did..

        • Wednesday, November 7th, 2012 03:03 pm GMT -4 at 3:03 pm

          I agree that they mishandled her between the end of Episode 7 and up to this past episode. Much of what she’s done became increasingly outlandish. My main point, though, is that the theme remains consistent with her. She and Ted can only ever get so close before Ted takes one step too far towards her and she backs up. It’s always been that way, even when she’s relented at times. It always ends up with Ted approaching and her leaving. Even when Ted cheated on her, if he’d waited a DAY, she’d have dumped him to be with Klaus. Didn’t excuse what he did, but it certainly shed a light on her.

          But I do think they could have made her final goodbye a bit more poignant if she and Ted had seemed mostly happy if somewhat stuck in a rut. Instead they just used her to float a few weak-ish jokes (Ted’s a wuss on money! Victoria’s a slob! Klaus is…German and they’re kind of odd and regimented!) It’s a shame, but to me the ending still fits the overall arc for her character and the role she ends up playing with Ted. Almost-but-not-quite.

    15. Wednesday, November 7th, 2012 12:40 pm GMT -4 at 12:40 pm

      Solo thanks for the quick show review. This episode brought out a lot of good comments. Yours included. I will let Victoria go when either Marshall pays off his Robin bet to Lily or the writers come out and say the Victoria “cash cow” story is over. Until then we will continue to hold final judgement.

      • Wednesday, November 7th, 2012 03:06 pm GMT -4 at 3:06 pm

        I hear you, but remember, the bet is about Robin, not Victoria. I think you’re more likely to get the writers saying “Nope. She’s done. We won’t see her again, which is a shame because we love Ashley Williams as much as the fans do. Maybe more.”

        Or at worst you’d get “Her romantic phase with Ted is truly done. We never know if we’ll bring her back later, but she has completely exited the picture with Ted now as a romantic possibility.”

        Which would make sense, if you think about it. I mean, she gave Ted an ultimatum and he — politely of course — told her “No f***ing way.” Why would she come back now?

        • Wednesday, November 7th, 2012 05:59 pm GMT -4 at 5:59 pm

          So Ted can be friends with an old Lover Named Robin but not with an old Lover named Victoria because… One he only thought he loved robin. Two he really did LOVE VICTORIA. Three Victoria said multiple times she really did LOVE TED and I believed her when she said it (Ashley is a great actress).

          They could bring her back and she could say okay I have been watching you from afar and I see that the Robin thing is now in the friend zone and I accept that and Ted would say Zoey I mean Victoria lets get back together for the third time. Then Ted would get knocked to the ground by his friends and say you let her go twice don’t make us pull out the BANNER.

          or Victoria could show up at the Robin Barney wedding as the cake lady or the cake lady for another wedding and see Ted and say darn wish I had not made it so difficult.

          or my favorite at this Stage CB/CT let Victoria go this time since you will not let her be the MOTHER.

          and Solo the Mom needs to show up soon. I have not read spoilers for awhile so not sure what progress the cast and show are making towards final season talk but would be great to see her in the next few episodes on the street in a shop etc.

          She could be talking to her old roommate Cindy or meet Robin and become friends after Robin dumps Nick. Robin could talk about her great friend Ted that she use to share an apartment with and say one day I will introduce you to him but she never meets Ted things just don’t work out.

    16. Wednesday, November 7th, 2012 02:03 pm GMT -4 at 2:03 pm

      It was a great episode. It left you hanging at the end. I believe Nick’s catchphrase will be legendary.

    17. Wednesday, November 7th, 2012 02:57 pm GMT -4 at 2:57 pm

      The writers piss me off leave the robin ted thing alone already!!!!! They start off by saying “oh its not realistic that you go down to a bar and meet the love of your life” yet what is realistic about this show???? A father telling his kids EVERY women he has ever slept with, how about that he loves aunt robin and was after her for 8 years, and if it wasnt for her marrying his “best friend” (yea best friend, what kinda friend marries a friends ex) he wouldnt of stopped trying. So much more i could go on, i used to love this show, now i just keep up to see who the mother is.

    18. Wednesday, November 7th, 2012 06:31 pm GMT -4 at 6:31 pm


      Yes, Ted cannot be friends with Victoria because Victoria will not want to be just friends with Ted. They’re done, I think. I hope, anyway. Victoria’s kinda played out at this point and I think bringing her back would just be awkward and weird. Unless, you know, that’s the point — an awkward and weird encounter. But then, we did that with The Ducky Tie last season.

      Ted CAN be friends with Robin because, unlike Victoria, he has MUCH more history in terms of just being friends, being friends with benefits, saying eh loved her again but she doesn’t love him, etc., etc. They’re just a LOT closer than he and Victoria ever were.

      I don’t think we need to see the Mother soon. I think she needs to stay off the radar until the wedding. I haven’t seen anything newer than 9/30 for a story on Season 9, so I guess that’s either been inked and they’re waiting to reveal the fact that they were renewed, or it’s in development.

      But basically, I see the rest of the season unfolding in one of two ways:

      1.) If there’s no season 9, then season 8 needs to have Barney and Robin: break up with Nick, get back together, get engaged, plan a wedding, and get married ALL by not later than Episode 16-18 of this season (depends on if they’re doing 22 or 24 episodes). That leaves 16/18-22/24 to introduce the mother and have Ted ask her to marry him. And even then, it’d be REALLY fast unless they skip forward in time. Twice — the question, and the wedding.

      2.) If there’s a season 9 (which, given the pace of this season, I’m starting to think they need), then you introduce the mother at the end of this season, and then next season is the year Ted gets to know, falls in love with, pops the question to, and ultimately marries the Mother. That still leaves time to get her “great with child” in time for a 2015 Trilogy Time including Baby Girl Mosby. Barely.

      Right now, I prefer option 2, if only because it gives them a more definite sense of ending things, given how they’ve slowed thigns currently. Realistically, I don’t think they can fit in ALL of the stuff I’d like to see. although…hmm….they COULD foreshadow a lot of it. Flashes forward IF they know there’s a season 9, or sort of a montage if there isn’t. I’d prefer a fully told story at this point, though, rather than a montage.

      • Wednesday, November 7th, 2012 08:10 pm GMT -4 at 8:10 pm

        I really believe, and have since the start, that we will not get to know the mother at all. I think the final episode will end with Ted meeting her on the train station, and then either two things will happen
        1) future ted will say ‘and that kids, is how I met your mother’ or
        2) we’ll get a really quick montage of their courtship, engagement, marriage, kids, etc with a great song playing over the top

        I just can’t picture it any other way. I definitely do not think we’ll get a whole season of ted and the mother. it’s ‘how I MET your mother’ not ‘how your mother and I had a relationship etc’.

        I think the problem with your two scenarios is that if we get to know the mother too much, there’s a chance we’ll really dislike her. Bays and Thomas will not want to give too much away, they’ll want the mother to be mysterious and remain a wonderful character in our eye. we know why ted loves her, we don’t need time to justify why he shouldn’t.

        • Thursday, November 8th, 2012 04:39 pm GMT -4 at 4:39 pm

          Ah, see, I have faith that they’ll be able to pull it off. I mean, they got folks to fall in love with Victoria and she was only around for 6 episodes in season 1. Five, actually (I think) if you don’t count her appearing as an hallucination.

          There’s another reason, though, why I think they’ll show ted’s relationship with her develop. I think the focus on the title is a bit too literal. Since the outset, this show has been about not just Ted MEETING the Mother, but — in a larger sense — how late 20s/early 30s folks grow up nowadays. The reason the show resonates with people is because it is in many ways representative of a number of solid archetypes for real-life people.

          I’d bet most folks here know people who match up with the main characters in some way, and for whom the experiences of the characters is fairly analogous. Maybe not a perfect one-to-one comparison, but they hit a lot of the same landmarks as the characters. And we’ve gotten to see them develop over time in this way.

          I think Ted is the last character to fully develop in this regard, and I think the story of that happening is the real point of the show. I mean, if you think about how Ted has told this tale (and therefore how B&T have), it’s not just a story about Ted meeting some chick that he marries. It’s about how 27-year-old naieve Ted got to a point in his life where he could actually become Future Ted — husband, father of 2, and long-winded font of wisdom (of sorts).

          Merely getting Ted to the point where he and the Mother have their first conversation doesn’t show the entire story of that. Instead, it’s missing a piece: the bit where Ted, a guy in his now mid-30s, falls in love with a woman (in spite of being burned in the past, hung up on an ex, and making a lot of really STUPID decisions), embraces his future, gets married, and is now finally ready to ultimately become Future Ted.

          I think they could do a montage of some of that stuff, but I think it’d actually mean more and show the full journey better if they show the relationship develop, Ted pop the question, Ted and the Mother plan the wedding, and maybe even a flash forward to the births of the kids and a “what happened to everyone else” bit. (Hopefully which doesn’t rip off American Graffiti/Animal House.)

          This is why, at this point, I’ve actually come around to the idea of a Season 9 — assuming they’re telling THAT story, and not just using it to drag out the initial meeting even further.

          If they can show that last piece of the story, I’m in for anothere season. And frankly, I think there’s plenty of story left to be told in that respect, including what early married life is like for Robin and Barney, and what it’s like for Lily and Marshal to raise a toddler. All of those things are stories worth telling alongside the story of Ted finally growing up.

        • Thursday, November 8th, 2012 06:32 pm GMT -4 at 6:32 pm

          Second that. For being a lawyer, you’re pretty decent. (Sorry, I just couldn’t resist. But honestly, you’re spot on with what you’re saying, I hope B&T read it).

    19. Wednesday, November 7th, 2012 08:54 pm GMT -4 at 8:54 pm

      Can someone just remind me here what the Miss Fudge thing is? I remember Quinn saying it Barney, when Marshall said it on Monday. Was there another reference or explanation for this?

      I also think the theory above about Robyn finding out at the wedding makes sense as both Marshall and Lily know the truth, but Barney doesn’t either. He may not find out til the wedding and if it causes an issue, he could get into a fight with Ted about it. (Wouldn’t be their first fight over Robin…..)

      Also loved some of the throw backs in this episode. I would love to see the LAMA award show again now that Nick is nomiated; Mary the Paralegal was always one of my fave episodes. And have Sandy Rivers host it! Also liked how they zoomed in on the “No Boogeyboarding” sign at MacLaren’s, the reference to Robin giving away her dogs, etc. They all kinda stood out and there were some others- didn’t notice the pillows though, will have to go back and rewatch!

    20. Thursday, November 8th, 2012 09:32 am GMT -4 at 9:32 am

      can anyone tell me what the song name is in the last episode please?

      • Isa
        Thursday, November 8th, 2012 11:55 am GMT -4 at 11:55 am

        The Swell Season – Low Rising

    21. Thursday, November 8th, 2012 11:53 am GMT -4 at 11:53 am

      Is Nick Robin’s secret crush from episode ‘hopeless’ in the 6th season?

      • Thursday, November 8th, 2012 01:22 pm GMT -4 at 1:22 pm


        • Saturday, November 17th, 2012 03:44 am GMT -4 at 3:44 am

          funny it has not been mentioned yet.

    22. Thursday, November 8th, 2012 11:50 pm GMT -4 at 11:50 pm

      Where to begin. I’ve been coming to this site since season 3. Used to comment all the time, but haven’t in a few seasons.

      This show needs to wrap it up. And soon. I’m not even sure I’d watch a 9th season, despite the time I’ve invested.

      Marshall used to be my favorite character. He was someone I could relate to. I think Jason Segel is a great writer/actor as well. Marshall has now become a low point on TV. Acting as a sassy woman? Come on. He’s not that person. He’s a dad, and has always been a mature character. As a viewer I nearly changed the channel

      Ted to Victoria: Will you marry me?
      Victoria: Yes! But you can’t be friends with Robin
      Not “Oh My God! I love the ring! You’re the best”.
      Will they, won’t they, will they, won’t they. As Solo4114 essentially said: We as viewers are better than that.

      How does the dog owner get Barney’s number!?!? He obviously didn’t put up signs! He was devastated.

      Listen, I’ve read a ton of comments over the years on HYMT, and I realize people are set on “It’s not the destination, it’s the journey,” and to an extent I agree. But after this long of a ride, I have to ask “Are we there yet?”

      We know we’re getting close to the magical meeting of the mother, but we are so far from the magic of season 1 and 2, that the show has become a ghost of itself.

      I have to think that after 8 seasons, the cast is ready to move on. Jason Segel is getting more chances to lead and write movies, NPH has a family now, as does Alison Hannigan, Cobie Smulders is getting a lot of roles in movies now (Avengers trilogy) and Josh Radnor is getting a chance to direct/star/write more movies as well. Now to mention B&C also have a new show coming. Put together 18 solid episodes for the the long time viewers of the show and end on a high note. Please.

    23. Friday, November 9th, 2012 11:20 am GMT -4 at 11:20 am

      Are we all forgeting that this show is not a normal sitcom, it cannot, never has been nor will ever be. There is a sense to the madness. The writers won’t automatically write a character in as the mother just because we like her. The mother seen with the kids was shot in what 2006 – It won’t change- just because the fans are intrested in the new or really old toy of victoria just because it may fit. This show has and always will be about true love, from the pilot it set itself up Ted fell in love with Robin at first sight, so to be fair it must be better than her or Victoria’s meeting, starting from season 2 when they shot the last shot with the kids they introduced the yellow umbrella. The idea was in place, the woman won’t change. Ted has to let go of VIctoria because he believes in something better, side note sorry this is so long, but I agree with Solo she is a commitaphobe. Just a final thought I understand the headache every other sitcom in history went to the on and off again couple, the couple that loved eachother a lot but wern’t soulmates. This show is not that show you should be excited it doesn’t give us that crappy storyline that every other sitcom has ie ross and rachel, jd and elliot, chuck and sarah, not that they aren’t enjoyable but the idea that soulmates do exist and that instead of being idiots and not getting together for a while then breaking up then getting back together so on, the truth is with a soulmate it won’t happen because the real journey was being ready to be that person, once you meet them it is a cake walk.

    24. Friday, November 9th, 2012 04:07 pm GMT -4 at 4:07 pm

      I’ve been visiting this website for the past couple of episodes now so I though I’d post a comment. I absolutely love HIMYM however I think Ted’s ideal women was neither Robin or Victoria. Ted needs someone who is a romantic (like him), slightly cheesy (like him) but still funny and sweet. I hope to a certain extent that we do get to know the mother when she does finally arrive because it’s going to be amazing and I really want to see Ted happy- on the other hand the build up to the mother has been immense so I feel like no matter how great she is, she will never be the women I had imagined for Ted. Anyway It’s been great reading everyone’s comments and I hope to join this little group of HIMYM fanatics.

      • Friday, November 9th, 2012 04:26 pm GMT -4 at 4:26 pm

        Actually, I think your post raises something else that I hope the series touches on: namely how life can surprise you particularly in terms of who ends up making you happy.

        In a sense, I think that’s already part of the message of the show in terms of how Robin is NOT perfect for Ted. When Ted first met her, she met all his “checklist” items. But there were real fundamental differences between them. The kind of differences that would eventually be listed as “irreconcilable” on a divorce filing.

        Now, I’m not married, but every friend I have who remains happily married tells me that, if you’d asked them to “Build your perfect spouse,” there’s no way they’d have created the person they’re with today. That’s not to say that the person they’re with wouldn’t share certain characteristics with the “perfect” person. Nor does it mean that, say, people who hated sports ended up with rabid sports fans and such. But it does mean that every one of them was surprised at what else this person brought to the table and how they’d never have expected to be with someone like that.

        I think, ultimately, that the Mother is going to have to embody ENOUGH of Ted’s favorite characteristics, but also surprise him by bringing to the table new things he discovers he loves and never would have considered. So, in that sense, I don’t think any of us — Ted included — can imagine the Mother effectively right now. (Well, aside from what they’ve already revealed.) And that’s kind of the point. I think. Maybe.

    25. Friday, November 9th, 2012 04:43 pm GMT -4 at 4:43 pm

      I liked the episode a lot for some reason, although it is not clear to me why.

      For some reason in this season characters are not shown as detailed and indepth as in previous episodes. This season is really fast paced and a lot of new elements are being introduced. I think they failed at showing off the relationship between the couples. The thing between Robin and the cook went to fast. The same can be said about Victoria and Ted, also the proposal was really to fast and not fitting at all. I could be biased though, I heavily dislike Victoria

    26. Friday, November 9th, 2012 09:52 pm GMT -4 at 9:52 pm

      I really think they could have played up the whole Victoria jealous of Robin thing..instead It seemed forgotten until the very end. I can just picture angry Victoria and clueless Robin in all sorts of scenes…

    27. Sunday, November 11th, 2012 03:57 am GMT -4 at 3:57 am

      So why does Robin suddenly have no idea that her aunt is a lesbian? Because in the episode she actually gave up the dogs, she tells Lily about her aunt and her lover and when Lily say “they” love dogs, she gets all mad and Lily says that “they” referred to people upstate or rural people or something.

      I realize that Ted is an inconsistent narrator, and I actually like that, but there’s honestly no excuse for continuity errors. Have an intern watch the episodes or pull the old scripts, etc.

      I know others have said it already, and it pains me to say it, but it does feel like they are not trying as hard as they used to. I loved the characters and the way they played with storytelling, but it just doesn’t feel the same anymore.

      • Friday, November 30th, 2012 12:52 pm GMT -4 at 12:52 pm

        well, that actually does fit pretty well! Robin gets mad cause Lily thinks her aunt is a lesbian and now she realizes that lily was right all along…

    28. Monday, November 12th, 2012 09:35 pm GMT -4 at 9:35 pm

      OMG I loved this episode to death. Barney’s speech was utterly amazing, not to mention they knocked all the dumb jokes out of the part. I was laughing pretty much the entire time. The only thing that didn’t really interest me was the storyline with Marshall and Lily, but it was nice to see Ted be such a great godparent (:

      • Monday, November 26th, 2012 12:14 pm GMT -4 at 12:14 pm

        Sorry but I disagree. The words were good but NPH’s acting was horrible, without any sign of feelings. If you compare his acting with Josh’s in season 7 in the same situation or Ashley Williams getting Ted’s refusal (her “I really hope you get her someday” was awesome) there is no comparison.

    29. Monday, November 12th, 2012 09:35 pm GMT -4 at 9:35 pm

      OMG I loved this episode to death. Barney’s speech was utterly amazing, not to mention they knocked all the dumb jokes out of the park. I was laughing pretty much the entire time. The only thing that didn’t really interest me was the storyline with Marshall and Lily, but it was nice to see Ted be such a great godparent (:

    30. Monday, November 12th, 2012 10:04 pm GMT -4 at 10:04 pm

      So, I guess we are just going to make a break from Last weeks episode and Start a new one. Someone needs to post a Show Review for everyone to work from?

    31. Tuesday, November 13th, 2012 10:34 am GMT -4 at 10:34 am

      I’ll give it a shot in my usual long-winded style.

      Ok, pretty good episode, all around. The stuff with Lily was…interesting. I like that they’re bothering to bring in baby Marvin even if he’s just a weird prop right now. I definitely liked that they were using the whole “he’s crying, so no nookie” thing. From what I’ve heard from my married-with-children friends, that’s fairly accurate (until you stop caring and just go for it anyway). And I LOVED how Ted was finally stepping up and being a good uncle without being overbearing and creepy. All that stuff was balanced really well with the real meat of the episode, namely the triangle with Robin, Barney, and Nick. So, on to that.

      Alas, poor Nick. We hardly knew him, Horatio. Much like what they did with Victoria, I think they handled Nick’s character…poorly. Michael Trucco is an incredibly talented actor, and there’s no reason they had to turn Nick into just a dumb beefcake (although he acted it well). That said, given HOW they were (or rather weren’t) using Nick this season…yeah, I’m glad he’s gone. All the breakups were abrupt, but I honestly didn’t care, since all the relationships became a lot less “real” to me. Each character was kind of being used as a one-note prop to accomplish something else, when they were being used at all. That felt kind of cheap…but on the other hand, I’d have to say that I suppose it fits since none of them were destined to be anything other than stepping stones.

      So, speaking of stepping stones, back to Nick. Poor, dumb Nick. I will forgive their mishandling of the character purely because of the gold they delivered with Barney’s speech. And those bastards teased it out just a LITTLE longer with the post-speech “back to normal” head-fake. Because, yeah, it’s obviously a head-fake. We KNOW these two are gonna end up together, so this is just delaying the inevitable. But, as long as they pay THAT off honestly, I’m good with it.

      Now for the downsides. Some of the Lily/Marshall stuff was a bit…over the top. It worked, but it felt a lot less serious and I think they’re about due for a LITTLE seriousness. Some milestone moment with Marvin. New parents are always finding them, too, so I’m a little surprised we haven’t seen some of that yet. Ted being douchey again was…eh…a little cheap. Although I loved how they gave him “The Shot” and the use of the angle graphics. That was cool. He can be a douche, but every so often, he pulls out an amazing stunt like that, and it’s worth it. The thing that really gets me, though, is Robin. If Nick’s such a buffoon, why was she with him as long as she was? I mean, yeah, the hotness factor counts, but Robin’s not 26 anymore. In my experience, that seriously cuts back the lifespan of “hot but dumb” relationships. The most you get out of ‘em in my experience is, oh, six weeks or so. (Same goes for hot-but-crazy, or hot-but-boring, or really hot-but-anything-not-good.) You have your fun…but then you tire of it. I get that Robin’s not really looking to settle down, but come on. What’s this REALLY about?

      I hope we find out. I’m hoping that, as their feelings for one another grow, Robin and Barney talk about WHY they ended up with Quinn and Nick when, in hindsight, each was…wrong and each, ultimately, seemed “forced.” There’ve been a number of “forced” relationships on the show of late, to the point where I think it’s kind of a theme. Robin and Kevin, Barney and Nora, Barney and Quinn, Ted and Robin (almost, again), Victoria and Klaus, Ted and Victoria, Robin and Nick. In each of these cases, it seemed like the main characters were “forcing” something rather than it just fitting. There’s almost a hint of desperation in it, like each of them is using the relationship to accomplish something, and that’s ultimately why each relationship is doomed — they aren’t about the other person involved so much as the function that other person serves in the moment. Right now, to be honest, the only relationship (among the three singles) that seems genuine is Barney and Robin. As screwed up as each is individually, and as screwed up as they were together, whatever’s there seems at least to be based on a genuine enjoyment of the other person for who they are as a person, rather than for what they “do” for each other.

      In that sense, it’s sort of the reason why, ultimately, Barney’s answer to Robin back in Season 7 about “Why do you want to be with me” was — when you dig into it — the better answer (for Robin). Barney sees her for who she is and appreciates her because of it. He genuinely just…loves her for her. With Nora, she was a “challenge” that had been accepted. With Quinn, it was an almost-Robin scenario where she could challenge Barney…but again, that was less about her for who she was, and more about what she could do FOR Barney. With Kevin, it was that he saw in Robin what she wished she could be…but ultimately, Kevin proved that he couldn’t be with Robin-as-Robin (as opposed to Robin-That-Could-Be). Same goes for Ted, for that matter. Much as Ted loves Robin for who she is, he and Robin both know that they’re wrong for each other and those critical issues would kill anything long-term (which brings up a separate thing re: Robin and Ted that I’ll get to in a sec). Barney, though…Barney sees Robin for who she is, warts and all, and just doesn’t care. He loves her anyway, and that’s about as pure a romance as you can ask for.

      Now then. Some have speculated that we will, once again, see Ted go back to Robin. I think we might. But I think if we do — certainly I HOPE if we do — that it will be dealt with the right way. That being that it’s made clear Ted’s doing this out of fear. Fear of making another leap into the unknown. Robin will have by that point become truly just a security blanket for him. A fallback position because he’s unwilling to really risk getting out there, worn down as he will be (presumably) by that point. ON THE OTHER HAND, I could also see Ted struggling with some jealousy, THINKING he still wants Robin, hiding it from her and Barney as their romance blossoms and their wedding finally comes to pass, and it all being discovered at the end of the season.

      So here’s a scenario for that. Somehow, on the day of the wedding, Lily blurts out that Ted chose Robin over Victoria. This sends Barney into a tailspin, insecure as he is on that day and otherwise freaking out about getting married. But the truth is, Ted really IS done with Robin by then. In spite of the build up to it (with Ted having confessed to Lily and Marshall how jealous he is) it will be revealed — at the wedding — that Ted really wants his friends to be happy, he’s just jealous because he can’t find that. All this will happen after he and Barney get into some kind of physical altercation (hence the injured hand) prompted by Barney freaking out, and will lead Ted to have some outburst a la the episode where he smashed the gingerbread house while they were all waiting in line for It’s a Wonderful Life. But in the midst of that tirade, he’ll realize that what he’s been feeling isn’t a desire for Robin but rather loneliness, a sense of abandonment, and jealousy…and none of that matters because he’s happy for his friends anyway. Thus, he’ll finally be prepared for the Mother to enter his life.

    32. Tuesday, November 13th, 2012 11:46 am GMT -4 at 11:46 am

      I will start with your last Paragraph, Robin was Ted’s fall back relationship but IS still his excuse not to fully get in a relationship with Victoria and she nailed him on it. If Ted had said yes I will leave with you he would have destroyed himself because it was not just Robin Victoria was asking him to leave but, his entire past life in New York. It will be easier for a woman to accept Married Robin still in Ted’s life if there is no history (Mother will only know Robin as an ex who is in a committed relationship.

      Lily will probably be the one to spill the Beans about why Victoria left but Robin will hopefully understand the bigger picture for Ted’s future. After all Robin was the one to help Ted chase the one who got away, so that Ted could put that behind him once and for all. Robin and Ted did have a good open conversation when Marvin was born and if Robin remembers that (unlike her Aunts love preferences) we are okay.

      Marvin, Marshall and Lily are comic relief and underused in a 30 minute show with other serious stuff going on. Will it change??? I think not all the time but some episode Lily and Marshall will be the main focus this season (Mile Stones with Marvin) good one Solo.

      All the temporary relationships had to be brief with minimal back story to fit everything else into Season 8.

      Thank you Savanna and Solo for kicking this off. Hope everyone keeps commenting. I think we had a late Season 8 kick off episode Last night. Personally I feel like Season 7 just ended with That episode.

      • Tuesday, November 13th, 2012 11:53 am GMT -4 at 11:53 am

        Yeah good point. This feels like the start of something rather than the end of other things, so I think that’s part of why it feels like a “kickoff” episode.

    33. Tuesday, November 13th, 2012 12:19 pm GMT -4 at 12:19 pm

      I miss a real review, but chechking out this comments is great, too. I m not a big fan of this episode, but I really laught when Patrice called Robin and she poked Barney. So sweet. I finnely got feeling that they are real.

    34. Tuesday, November 13th, 2012 01:21 pm GMT -4 at 1:21 pm

      This has been my favourite episode of the season so far (if you count out 01 which only real quality was having “mother-hints” in it) – mostly because it focussed on ONE main story, which was told in a detailled and careful fashion. It was about time Robin dumped Nick and Barney’s speech was well writen and amazingly executed by NPH.
      What probably makes this episode of the better ones is that we finally see the group hanging out again, that they are basically true to their character (-> Robin making fun of Ted claiming to be a sportsman) and not doing over-stilized parodies of themselves.
      Marshall and Lily’s parts weren’t great, but they made sense in the end. What really bothered me was Nick’s sudden loss of intellegence – which is exactly what made me hate most of this season so far : the constant changing of character traits.

      I really find lack of focus has been the desease of this show lately – if the writers don’t feal confident enough about their stories, why bother telling them?

      Anyway, I’m hoping for 18 kick-ass episodes to follow, which hopefully will include more “Ted storylines” and sincere “Marshall & Lily” storylines. By the way: did Ted stop working as a professor or why have they stopped showing that – I though it was pure gold since that’s basically him doing what he loves doing most.

    35. Wednesday, November 14th, 2012 04:13 pm GMT -4 at 4:13 pm

      I thought this episode was great in light of Robin and Barney’s relationship because let’s just admit it, that little romantic speech was the most brilliant thing I’ve ever heard (Shakespeare would be proud). Unfortunately apart from that I disliked pretty much the rest of the episode. I hated the way Lily was going off because it just sounded a little vulgar to say that kind of stuff (I’m slightly prudish). I thought Marshall with the whole lifting weights and doing chin ups WHILST CARRYING A BABY was
      a) dangerous
      b) very unrealistic
      Lastly I found the whole Ted thing kind of boring (I don’t know, I was more interested in looking at my cat on those parts). On the whole I thought the episode was not very memorable (which is probably a good thing, I don’t want to remember HIMYM like this) but onwards and upwards my friends… onwards and upwards!

      • Wednesday, November 14th, 2012 05:00 pm GMT -4 at 5:00 pm

        I have to agree. Overall I’m disappointed in this season so far. They have nailed a few serious moments: Klaus in ep 1, Barney in this episode, and a few others. But there have been a lot of really cheesy moments that are not reminiscent of earlier seasons. I enjoyed season 7 and don’t remember that many episodes like this. I mean, there were filler episodes and that is fine, but I feel like the cheesiness was contained within those episodes. When you Marshall pretending to be a Diva the entire episode and then have Ted break up with Victoria at the end of the episode it just doesn’t flow well. Am i nuts?

        • Wednesday, November 14th, 2012 05:05 pm GMT -4 at 5:05 pm

          I don’t think you’re nuts, but I do think we tend to look back more fondly on the seasons than we do in the moment. I got into this show when the first six seasons were all on DVD, so I could just binge-watch them. I thought they all flowed great, but I’ve heard people really disliked parts of Season 5 and especially Season 6. Now they look back fondly on them.

          Last season, if you surf through this blog (you know, if you have a spare few hours…), you’d see a lot of folks — myself included– complaining about the uneven tone of the episodes, the lack of seriousness, the loss of “realism” in the characters, etc.

          Pretty much all the stuff we’re talking about here.

          But when I went back and watched Season 7 all the way through…it worked. It fit. It had frustrating moments,and it wasn’t AS good as the other seasons, but it worked. and I got what it was the writers were trying to do. The uneven bits were less uneven. The good moments were better.

          I suspect the same will hold true of this season after the fact.

    36. Wednesday, November 14th, 2012 06:59 pm GMT -4 at 6:59 pm

      I started watching last year and I was pretty adicted. The first four seasons were perfect, the 5th is not so funny, they really messed up relationship between Ted/Robin/Barney. I don t like much of 6th, but still funny. In season 7 were some kick-ass episodes, like Tick tick tick or Carma – I could watch them hundred times. And, honestly, I did (A) But this season just not working for me. Just cheach proof… And it reminds me, why I have hated sit coms before I started to watch HIMYM.

    37. Thursday, November 15th, 2012 03:42 am GMT -4 at 3:42 am

      Everybody has had “worst episode ever” rants here. But… my turn – worst episode ever.

      Some people say this because they hold an individual episode up against the conglomeration of everything a HIMYM episode can be. They all can’t be mother mythology, epic, romantic, slapstic, and, silly, serious, or random all at the same time. You can’t compare the experience of watching 2 or 3 on a DVD to what a single 22 minutes can bring.

      The expectations get too high.

      But this one.

      The Barney-save almost saved it.
      They Victoria-ed Nick. Nick was always a goofy guy, now he became like the dog guy.

      Allison just isn’t getting very much this season. It’s like she isn’t into it anymore. Actually… the whole season seems like that. The performances are looking really flat.

    38. Thursday, November 15th, 2012 04:02 am GMT -4 at 4:02 am

      I really liked the Barney- robin segment of scenes.. They were real and fun.

      I am a new one to comment but I read the reviews all the time.

      • Thursday, November 15th, 2012 10:07 am GMT -4 at 10:07 am

        Welcome, your comment came early morning Eastern or late night Out West US or someone else would have said it, Thanks for participating. I still miss some of the people who participated last year that are not even commenting but glad new individuals are posting on HYMT.

    39. Thursday, November 15th, 2012 02:19 pm GMT -4 at 2:19 pm

      I kind of liked the episode when I watched it, but now I don’t remember what it was about. More than Barney’s speech in saving Robin. (Oh, right, there was a lot about basket, explains why i forgot most of it).
      Anyway, This is the thread to the review of episode 5, episode 6 aired like what? 3 days ago. And we’re at a total of 64 comments (this one included). Does that say something?

      • Thursday, November 15th, 2012 02:24 pm GMT -4 at 2:24 pm

        Yes. It says that the hosts are unavailable (see the top of the page) until December. :)

      • Thursday, November 15th, 2012 02:44 pm GMT -4 at 2:44 pm

        Dolf, not the same involvement as last years group. Since the site was locked up all summer seems we lost a lot of people so the number of posts per episode are way down.

        Also some people may have lost interest in the show. Always room for more fans. Dvds make it easy to catch up or an online service. In the old days 80s and 90s it would take years of cable reruns to catch up on a TV series.

    40. Friday, November 16th, 2012 06:57 am GMT -4 at 6:57 am

      Figured out who the mother is going to be either Courtney Cox, or Lisa Kudrow because in the beginning sequence of friends they have yellow umbrellas. I know that idea is stupid just felt like coming up with a new crazy theory rather then hearing everyone talk about how Robin and Ted will end up together (even though they won’t)

      • Friday, November 16th, 2012 03:52 pm GMT -4 at 3:52 pm

        That s amazing theory xDDDDD Love it!

    41. Friday, November 16th, 2012 11:23 pm GMT -4 at 11:23 pm

      Long time lurker, first time commentor
      Agree with Teddy Westside.
      I always had this random fantasy , that they would incorporate Friends into HIMYM
      For example , Ross and Rachel hanging around in Mac Laren’s or at the park with Emma
      During the episode , Natural History , I was getting several Ross vibes , really thought he would show up in one scene
      Went off topic, but this week’s HIMYM I thought was pretty good.
      I noticed that Marshall looks a lot more slimmer than previous seasons.
      Barney really hit a home run with his speech. The way his voice broke as he spoke, it just made everything so realistic. As “fake” as it was it was soo true. they way Robin looked at him when she realized that his words had some amount of truth in them, made my heart melt. Also that moment they shared, their almost kiss , I was literally screaming for them to get together already.
      Sorry if my entire review was broken, it’s ,my first time commenting, please cut me some slack. I’ll certainly work on my commenting skills, looks like most of you are experts here.
      Thanks :D

    42. Saturday, November 17th, 2012 02:16 am GMT -4 at 2:16 am

      So now that it’s been a while since the episode aired, I can kind of see things more clearly now. The reason I loved the episode so much in the first place was pretty much because of Barney’s speech. Now, however, I can say that the whole storyline regarding basketball and Marshall and Lily’s issues just weren’t really as interesting for me. I, too, loved Ted stepping in as the great godparent he is and taking Marvin for a while. While I really liked the dumb jokes about Nick, I don’t really like how they changed him into pretty much a total idiot in such a short amount of time. Barney and Robin’s moment, however, completely turned things around.

      NPH delivered the speech excellently, and even though he pretended it was faked I didn’t care. Still loved it. And, if I can just dive into the color theory here (it’s one of the most interesting aspects of discussion, to me)… I hope you all don’t mind since I seem to dwell on this and bring it up time and time again. Did everyone else notice the CRAZY amount of yellow in Splitsville? The flowers, the lemons, while none of the characters were wearing it, the color was still very apparent during the speech scene. So now, I think that maybe instead of yellow symbolizing the mother, or barney, or robin, or a destined true love, (or whatever else I claimed it to be) this color symbolizes the beginning. More specifically, the beginning of a lasting relationship. Purple, most likely, symbolizes the end of one then. Nora wore purple when she and barney broke up, Quinn wore purple when she met Barney. In the previous episode there was a lot of it, symbolizing the end of Ted/Victoria as well as maybe the true end of Barney/Quinn (after Barney realizes Robin is “the best wingman ever”). I know I’m rambling, but I’m fairly sure that the purple at Barney/Robin’s wedding might symbolize the true end of Ted/Robin’s romantic relationship… Any other thoughts on the color theory are welcome here! (:

      • Saturday, November 17th, 2012 05:48 am GMT -4 at 5:48 am

        I admire you… I would never come out with such a great theory about colors :) I believe you right.

    43. Monday, November 19th, 2012 05:27 pm GMT -4 at 5:27 pm

      Nick showed up in the show “Revenge” on ABC last week… so maybe that’s why they had to write him out so …abruptly!

      • Monday, November 19th, 2012 05:55 pm GMT -4 at 5:55 pm

        Nah, I don’t think so. At least for me it wasn’t the number of episodes they spent on these relationships (Ted and Natalie was a 1-episode thing and still nicely done), but how poorly they were presented and eventually broken up.
        I’m becoming more and more convinced they should have cut the “Autumn of Breakups” into a 3(to 4) episodes : one episode per breakup + some extra Lily & Marshall episode or “Isn’t it great to be single” episode and they would have been fine.

        So I don’t think more screen time for Nick would have really helped the writers – expect it coming up in in the early seventh season. ;)

      • Tuesday, November 20th, 2012 02:08 pm GMT -4 at 2:08 pm


        SEASON 8 EPISODE 7


    44. Tuesday, November 20th, 2012 11:32 am GMT -4 at 11:32 am

      Recap, Solo or Ross? I’m looking forward to what you two have to say! :)

      • Tuesday, November 20th, 2012 12:33 pm GMT -4 at 12:33 pm

        I have not watched the episode yet and may not until Friday. Sorry holiday and work are both in the way. I want to have some time to watch it twice before I comment especially after what I see now.

    45. Tuesday, November 20th, 2012 11:33 am GMT -4 at 11:33 am

      Wow… This is the first time I have ever posted a comment like this one: What an awful episode last night. Just dreadful to watch. I didn’t even chuckle.

    46. Tuesday, November 20th, 2012 11:57 am GMT -4 at 11:57 am

      I loved last scene – with B. and R., like the previous time. And, like the previous time, the rest of the episode was pretty dum.

    47. Tuesday, November 20th, 2012 01:10 pm GMT -4 at 1:10 pm

      So, I’ll do this one in the traditional style (well, mostly).

      What was Good:

      - Brad’s reappearance, while goofy, was funny.
      - Seems like we’re getting set up for some good episodes in the near future.
      - Douchey College Ted. Always a riot.
      - Lily’s cleavage. Although I’m wondering if Alyson has a clause in her contract requiring low-cut sweaters and pushup bras this season.

      What was Bad/Not-so-Good:

      - Marshall’s boss. The height thing was…a little much.
      - The Barney free agency thing. Some ok gags here and there, but overall…meh.
      - Brad backstabbing Marshall. Not cool, bromigo. Not cool at all. Also probably a serious violation of attorney ethics (yes those exist) that would lead to debarment.

      General thoughts:

      On the whole, I think this was a good “filler” episode. Most of what happens in it is inconsequential to the larger story, but there are some nice details that surface, and clearly some things set up for later. Marshall’s enduring glass-half-full attitude about people is nice to see, even if it bit him in the ass this time. I suspect we’ll be seeing the flipside of that soon, though in his competitive streak when he tries the big pharma case. Brad’s reappearance was funny in some respects, but a bit much in others. As I mentioned, in the real world, I suspect this kind of behavior would cost you your license, but whatever, it’s sitcom reality. I did, however, like that Marshall finally had something to do other than just be the comic relief. Lily still seems underused, though. Well…most of her, anyway. Other parts of her are front and center, clearly. Still, the overhead slap thing is getting tired. Here’s hoping she can be a little more serious or at least a little less “catch-phrasey” in upcoming episodes. (I consider her slap the equivalent of a catch-phrase.)

      The Barney strip club auditioning sort of makes sense (can’t go back to where his ex strips), but it was a little much in many cases. HOWEVER, it provided a vehicle for “I always have fun with you” and the kiss. I like how they’re taking this a little bit slower than they could (e.g., this episode could’ve featured them officially getting back together). But yeah, the Barney Robin thing…I think they’re selling it pretty well. When they do finally get back together, I get the sense that it’ll have been built enough to make sense and “feel” right.

      Which leaves us with Ted. First, I love College Ted. He always cracks me up. I appreciated how they redeemed the doucheyness, too, but did so honestly (because, yeah, even a guy who is saying “Go for it with Lily” is still gonna follow it up with “after you hook up with some other chicks” at age 18). I particularly loved the bit about him not being married til he was 23, as if that was so old. Beyond that, I kinda wonder what they’re doing with Ted this season. With Victoria’s departure, so far the answer seems to be…”Not much.” That’s not surprising, although, I think we could still do a LITTLE bit with Ted dating, even if each girl isn’t The Mother. He could still learn some good things about himself, dating, etc. from going out with a girl here or there, or at least get a good “crazy date” story. I do hope he doesn’t become a background figure again like he did for much of Season 7. And I hope that they use Future Ted more to tie things together a bit. I still think that Future Ted framing episodes and providing ongoing commentary is a big part of what made the first 3 seasons work as well as they did. To me, the episodes always seem to make more sense in terms of “why’s this matter?” when Future Ted is talking throughout them.

      Anyway, looks like we’re setting up two bigger plotlines for the 2nd quarter of the season. Hopefully the Robin/Barney one will either progress appropriately to allow for a Season 9 with the Mother, or will progress to where Ted meets her around Ep. 18. We shall see…

      • Tuesday, November 20th, 2012 02:03 pm GMT -4 at 2:03 pm

        i totally agree with the disbarment thing, however even Brad was done very cleanly and not quite so sitcome like as they treated Victoria, Nick,Klaus. So even I, a 3L law student whose life revolves around the bar, didn’t mind too much that this was totally illegal.

    48. Tuesday, November 20th, 2012 01:12 pm GMT -4 at 1:12 pm

      i actually really liked it. they brought back the arching/connected stories which is what made HIMYM so strong. i had a good chuckle. they showed Marshall working. brought back Brad for a bit of nostalgia and actually kept the characters very true to what we have come to know and love.

      i love that lily and marshall actually had a “real” story line and not one derived just for the benefits of a cheap thrill.

      there were one or 2 minutes where I literally giggled for a bit and had to rewind.

      loved the moment with Ted giving Lily the ultimate Stamp and then in true Ted form he had to ruin it.

      not a huge fan of the RoBarn kiss…seemed a little forced, i’d have liked to keep it as a “bro-night” or had robin confess to why she was sabotaging his chances as she was jealous.

      and this is my 3rd time reviewing and my past 2 have NOT shown :( so i hope this works.

    49. Tuesday, November 20th, 2012 02:41 pm GMT -4 at 2:41 pm

      Okay, I went. Head and snuck in a quick run of the episode at Lunch Today. So first look it gets a C. Lily actually saves it from a D-Plus. Why, well I will tell you all Friday after I watch it for the second Time.

      Feel free to rate the show and A+ to F bad. And I will stay off the site until I Post my Review Then.

    50. Tuesday, November 20th, 2012 03:36 pm GMT -4 at 3:36 pm

      The Stamp Tramp.. a stand alone episode.

      Opened with a weak Barney Theme as a Free Agent of strip clubs and actually went to a stronger Marshall at work story line. The writers tied all the different threads together with “stamp of Approval”. That actually worked.

      It did not begin with Ted so at most it gets a C+ from me.

      The conversation went from dump on Marshall to dump on Marshalls boss ” That horrible Honeywell guy” thanks Lily.

      Followed up with Marshall and his think out loud defense technique. I wonder if he will use that in court?

      Robin was a parrot this episode and that brings us to Ted and his actual parrot stamp. No original Ideas for (Teddy Westside) BARNEY QUOTE> Lily he took it right out from under you.

      In this episode Barney and Robin are tied together, almost like a married couple. So then Robin has a few lines ending with a dramatic line drawn under her Chest and Barney blinking like a neon sign pointing the way.

      Everyone gets a turn to talk then back around again. The writers are giving all the main Characters a part in this episode.

      The Barney Robin togetherness seemed forced all the way through the episode until Robin shuts it down at the end abruptly after the drunken forced KISS. C- This did not flow well, not unlike the bad food jokes!!

      Speaking of Douchey Ted, the third plot line was saved again and again by Lily who tied everything together. Example of this is “follow my lead” to Barney and Robin, 1-2-3 all spit out our drinks to Ted’s warped story.

      In the End bringing out the Baby to make the moment feel right with Ted and Lily and a stack of VHS tapes (not the trunk of VHS tapes that Barney use to have) reminded everyone of Young Baby vs. old college life. Lily Marshall and Ted have come along way since the Third Date. Ted, learn to turn it off when you say something nice. He should know by now the next words are going to spoil it. Little Marvin learn the lesson now dude.

      The writers gave all the main characters a shot in this one and so nothing Big happened. Then again nothing bad happened either to ruin Season 8 YET. First glance not as bad as everyone said it was going to be.

    51. Tuesday, November 20th, 2012 03:57 pm GMT -4 at 3:57 pm

      Hello again! I have been so busy in life that I haven’t had the chance to comment in 3 weeks I think. Well, I have a few minutes so I thought I’d get in a quick comment after reading all comments for the past 3 episodes. I actually loved it. I know they framed Robin picking the Golden Oldies for Barney b/c of the bling/rewards, but to me, it seemed like a place of jealousy or something. I think she subconsciously wasn’t going to pick another place because she really didn’t want Barney to go to those clubs (think back to her reaction about his strip club days when they were together).

      I also agree with Solo that the slow progress is finally setting them up for getting together now versus before (always been the right person, finally, the right time). I look forward to seeing where they take this story line! I can’t remember who posted this, but I agree that RoBarn is the only realistic couple right now. His speech last week and the kiss this week were perfect. I liked how we could tell that Barney was speaking from his heart- and from Robin’s face, we could tell that she too seemed to be moved albeit surprised. But then it showed them not dealing with the feelings they were clearly both having. I don’t think they are even letting themselves think of getting back together as an option because of their history. That seems honest, and raw to me- and very true to these two characters who just haven’t realized yet that they are meant for each other but are just scared that because of their past, it won’t work again.

      The kiss was also true to this- so passionate in the moment because in that moment they were not worrying about what it meant- but as soon as Robin realizes whats happening she takes a step back and all her concerns, fears, insecurities pop up and she says that she can’t do this. This goes back to the right person, right/wrong time thing. Solo and I discussed last season how people hate RoBarn because they can’t get over how bad they were together (remember people- right person/wrong time!!). We agreed that if they could just show the characters and how perfect they are for each other (right person) in the right setting (as I said, they are finally in the right time), that people would let up and realize how perfect they truly are for each other. I think RoBarn is hesitant but that they will soon realize (like the unbelieving fans) that they really are the right people for each other, and it is indeed the right time.

      • Tuesday, November 20th, 2012 04:10 pm GMT -4 at 4:10 pm

        Exactly. They’ve really been laying the groundwork for this for some time now, dropping subtle hints here and there that the two of them would actually work together, most of which occurred during Season 7. The wedding in Cleveland, the moment between them in the cab, the abortive attempt to get back together after cheating, Barney being crushed about it when that didn’t happen, even their failed relationships (Nick and Quinn) and Barney refusing to give up Robin, the “Best wingman ever” quotes, Barney’s speech and the more raw “I always have a good time with you” followed by the kiss…to me it’s all laying the groundwork.

        It’s clear to me at this point that these two belong together and the only thing holding them back is their fear. If they’d just get out of their own respective ways, it’d work. And sooner or later, that’s gonna happen (only for their fears to resurface the day of the wedding where they will hopefully, FINALLY be put to rest, alongside Ted’s romantic obsession with Robin — or at least what she represents).

        What I’m hoping happens, though, is that Ted really starts to grow in response to their impending nuptials.

    52. Tuesday, November 20th, 2012 06:55 pm GMT -4 at 6:55 pm

      The title of the episode made my heart sing with joy and the sun give warmth even though it’s end of November in Santa land (Scandinavia), but, alas, no Amy turned up, so that forlorn hop got buried among the other cinders, gristle and bones of departed dreams.
      However, nice to see the college Ted as DJ X or whatever it was he called himself. And I noticed the sandwich in the background of one of the video-clips.
      And Marshal trying to save the situation by reverting to fish was a nice call back as well.
      I thought overall it was a decent episode, and this one as well as the previous one does show some strategic movement with a good build-up on RoBarn arc. While the breakups have been handled rather badly, the RoBarn reunion seems to develop in the spirit of good old HIMYM.

      • Wednesday, November 21st, 2012 04:15 am GMT -4 at 4:15 am

        or did I get mixed up, what was the butterfly tattoo Ted got after his break-up with Robin. Was it a tramp stamp, skank stamp or what? Some kind of stamp it was in any case.

        • Wednesday, November 21st, 2012 08:36 pm GMT -4 at 8:36 pm

          It was a tramp stamp haha

    53. D
      Tuesday, November 20th, 2012 08:49 pm GMT -4 at 8:49 pm

      In my opinion, the most romantic Barney speech was in last year’s “Disaster Averted”.

      He said: ” I was a jerk. And if you don’t mind my saying, your dad is a complete idiot for not calling. He should never let a day go by without calling you, because… when I let a day go by without talking to you… um… then that day’s just no good.”

      Spot on delivery. He said it with such sincerity and earnestness that it was believable that he cares a great deal about Robin.

      The writers seem to forget all about that, and give us this cop-out “I like spending time with you” scene. What is this, high school?

      • Wednesday, November 21st, 2012 08:13 pm GMT -4 at 8:13 pm

        Well, to Barney’s/the writer’s defense, Barney was pretty drunk with in he whole “I always have fun with you”/kiss scene. Not exactly the time for sincerity and eloquence.

    54. Tuesday, November 20th, 2012 10:42 pm GMT -4 at 10:42 pm

      Ok I’m going to be that continuity guy again. Wasn’t it on the road trip where Marshall and Ted become best friends that Marshall first says he doesn’t want to settle down with the first girl he dates in college and then comes out and says he loves her?

      Now the video conversation we see in this episode could be after that, but why rewrite Marshall/Lily history for a stamp joke about Ted? They could have done a Tantrum call back instead? I would have found that more amusing.

      Ted has already proven how close he and Lily were with the easy bake oven, if they wanted to give Ted a gold stamp, they could have done another mother tease in a flash forward of the gang talking about how Ted was right to pick her or something like that.

      If this realization for Ted that he isn’t the innovator/leading edge of style or taste leads to actual character development for him, I’ll take it back, but I doubt it at this point.

    55. Wednesday, November 21st, 2012 03:22 am GMT -4 at 3:22 am

      Did anyone notice that when Barney and Robin were walking , a taxi just rode past them ? I thought it was a good callback to “Disaster Averted”. In Disaster Averted they were IN the taxi, and therefore their kiss that time led up to more. However here the taxi just went past them, just like their kiss, it got over in almost an instant and didn’t lead up to anything else.
      I don’t know if this was purposely done, or it’s just my overly active mind

      • Wednesday, November 21st, 2012 08:41 pm GMT -4 at 8:41 pm

        That’s actually really cool. If they intended to put the cab in as symbolism, and you’re right, then I really admire the show even more. If it is the case, it also makes sense that Barney tried to hail the cab and it kept going, since Barney is the one who initiated the kiss.

    56. Wednesday, November 21st, 2012 05:48 am GMT -4 at 5:48 am

      Hi all.. I would like to post some of my observations here .. (could be lengthy don’t scold me after reading)

      I always thought this series is more than Ted meeting the girl so I am happy with meeting a girl in an episode or not.. I think journey is more important for destination to be perfect. I am okay with a slideshow of photographs explaining the proposal and voice over from senior Ted describing how happy he was.

      Marshall and Lily are the pivots of this group. They are the emotional support and parental guidance for the group. They have their occasional problems too but I always they are more human parents and friends rather than ideal and imaginary people…

      My basic interest in the series developed when Robin and Barney became a couple or when the inception of the idea of them being a couple. May be my tendency to like Bad couple working out to become right for each other is making me to vouch for them more and more. But l like them.

      This episode for me is a “required filler”.. As a writer I can say u cannot always keep story moving episode by episode especially when you have a premise like HIMYM… All the story can be completed with a short montage and a voice over. So u need things to slow down before u increase the tempo again. For me the Marshall story line worked.. Young Ted cracked me up but Robin and Barney story line disappointed me.. So a 2.5/5 for me.

      Thank U for reading

    57. Wednesday, November 21st, 2012 09:08 am GMT -4 at 9:08 am

      Somethings about color yellow: when Barney and Robin kiss in the hospital in ep 4×24 and she wears yellow coat in ep 7×09 and now in ep 8×06

    58. Wednesday, November 21st, 2012 05:36 pm GMT -4 at 5:36 pm

      I was over on IMDB and someone gave me the example I was struggling to find when posting yesterday. Ted included Lily in the first room mate picture of Ted and Marshall (I try to forget that episode ever happened so that’s why I couldn’t think of it). Why do we need to have Ted prove himself to Lily again?

      • Wednesday, November 21st, 2012 05:54 pm GMT -4 at 5:54 pm

        I guess I’d say “Why not?” It’s a nice touch, now and then, to remember that these characters are closely connected. Particularly when Lily and Marshall have spent the last few episodes being cheap comic relief, rather than important characters. They’ve kinda been in their own world lately, even after Who Wants To Be A Godparent.

        I don’t really see the continuity problems as being that big of a deal, myself. I mean, yeah, they could keep it tighter particularly when doing callbacks, but I don’t think anything’s really been contradicted.

    59. Thursday, November 22nd, 2012 01:34 am GMT -4 at 1:34 am

      This season has been okay so far. Claus’ speech and the shot of the mother at the train station…Barney’s speech to Robin etc. have been good but the other filler not so great. I believe we are caught in middle of “is this the last season or will the actors agree to do a season 10″ doldrums. I know the writers have been quoted as saying they have written the first few episodes to go either way, but lets make up our minds ASAP or this season will be a bust. NPH gives his all every episode, but Jason and Alyson seemed to be bored with their parts. I hope this show ends this season because I think if it does the actors will give it their all for the home stretch. Ratings are very good so we’ll see…

      The break ups were so abrupt. Nick was sort of dumped in our laps without a lead-in (how they reconnected) and his character development (or lack there of) was just plain dumb. Quinn deserved a better ending then she got. And poor Victoria.

      We have a lot of great “we’ll get to that” and “a little ways down the road” things coming up that I’m expecting the best for the rest of the season (and the series ending soon).

    60. Friday, November 23rd, 2012 02:16 pm GMT -4 at 2:16 pm

      So I went to edit my episode comment and found out that somehow it had already posted Wednesday. I guess I will have to stand by those thoughts of last Mondays show. I felt like the episode basically followed the season. Nothing has progressed drastically from the first Episode of Season 8 YET, but we all feel it could happen any episode.

      Ted Needs to get back out there and start looking. Maybe Barney could take Ted out to the new strip club and get him thinking about other Women Beside Robin or Victoria.

      Barney is focused on Robin but is going about it the wrong way again. Dude you can not just jump back on it. There needs to be an emotional connection not just social acquaintances or the other end Friendly Lovers.

      Barney and Robin are most interesting when they have a common goal. Both of the actors and characters are goal driven. Yet it is the quiet moments I see posted here the most.

      Something new needs to happen in this show that we have not seen the last 7 years. They all need to take a trip together or help re-build Jersey New York style???

      Everyone needs to go out to Ted’s house and Point out the Things they like or dislike about the construction. An example is painting baby Marvin’s room last season. Robin and Barney focused on Ted’s date. Marshal and Lily really wanted to know the Baby’s gender but could not come out and say it. That was the type of interaction that makes the show fun.

      Hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving with Friends and Family. If you did not make the effort to be friendly you probably did not have a fun day.

    61. Saturday, November 24th, 2012 08:53 pm GMT -4 at 8:53 pm

      this site’s been awful for 3 seasons now.

      a damn shame.

    62. Sunday, November 25th, 2012 12:43 pm GMT -4 at 12:43 pm

      Just watched the episode, thought it was the best of the season.
      I like the characters interaction, felt more like the old HIMYM we know and love.

      I do hope Brad will make up for his dickmove he made on Marshall.

      Their was also finally some nice callbacks, like the sandwich, Dr.X.
      The best one was probably the one when Marshall ordered the soup from Blue Bowl restaurant (the same restaurant Lily got sick from in Season 6′s Finale).

      Like Ross said Splitsville felt like clearing up the last dead ends.
      Hopefully the show can continue this step in the right direction.
      And end the show on a high note.

      Dont know if anyone saw the promo for next weeks episode, looks hilarious.

    63. Monday, November 26th, 2012 03:15 pm GMT -4 at 3:15 pm

      The main problem to this month long string of show reviews is (or any review with lots of comments) is someone responded to something 13 days ago. Savanna has a response from gellerfan and the only way I noticed was the comment count changed. I scrolled up and looked for a Reply to one of the posts until I found it.

      • Monday, November 26th, 2012 03:34 pm GMT -4 at 3:34 pm

        Yeah, Jordan could have let someone else take control of the site temporarily.
        Or just made the Episode Discussion for each episode in advance.

      • Monday, November 26th, 2012 03:36 pm GMT -4 at 3:36 pm

        yea i get you. i was having that issue, then i just had it send me emails anytime anyone responded.

    64. Tuesday, November 27th, 2012 01:37 am GMT -4 at 1:37 am

      ok, soo i am quite OBSESSED with this show. more so than normal. i even dream about it.

      as a regular fan, I liked it a lot. it made me giggle. i like the brunch part, the reference to Robin the pop-star, Barney’s Magician thing etc…

      however, as someone in law school, the way they presented the court room kind of annoyed me. i love HIMYM cause it stays realistic. there would NOT be a jury of all women. Nor would any respectable judge allow Brad to act the way he did. nor would that video be in evidence!! UGHH..

      so law school rant aside, i liked it.

    65. Tuesday, November 27th, 2012 03:57 am GMT -4 at 3:57 am

      Look, I really want to like each episode when it comes out, but seriously? Other than giving us a glimpse into Marshall eventually becoming a judge, this episode was awful.

      The whole bad*** storyline only so Barney could call reconnecting with Robin as friends bad***?

      I know I’m probably over reacting, but this season has disappointed me more than any other so far.

    66. Tuesday, November 27th, 2012 09:48 am GMT -4 at 9:48 am

      Last nights episode so far has one positive and one mixed review. I just got to watch the last 8 minutes so both comments above covered the only part I could comment about. Looked good to me. The ending spoke to me saying, we want to tell you about the good future each character is going to have.

      The writers are obviously closing it out and trying to pay off on promised stories.

    67. Tuesday, November 27th, 2012 10:07 am GMT -4 at 10:07 am

      Ok, pretty good episode in my opinion. Here’s my review.

      What was good: Nice structure to the episode. Also, Marshall gets a good story for a change. And I loved the twist-ish ending. Also, the line “Great. Now I’ve angered the Frog King.”

      What was bad: All the legal stuff. Seriously, writers, talk to a lawyer. I get that it’s sitcom land, so the law isn’t treated as rigorously, but come on. There were some basic screwups here. That covers a lot of stuff in this episode.

      General comments:

      Does NOBODY on the writing staff have a friend who’s a lawyer? Ok, so, I’m a lawyer by trade. One thing you learn, as early as law school, is not to hold TV shows to the standards of the real world. And I don’t, usually. Law & Order regularly flouted the rules of evidence, and had attorneys object to stuff they wouldn’t and not object to stuff they would. I accept that for dramatic purposes. But there was some basic stuff here that was just…sloppy. You are “guilty” in a criminal case. You are “liable” in a civil case (like, where you’re suing someone for money). That’s basic. Also, no jury would ever be made up of 100% women. That’s just begging for an appeal. I mean, I accept Brad’s behavior for the sake of sitcoms, but some of the other stuff was just way too over the top for my tastes. Also, I expect that Brad would be looking for a new line of work if he actually infiltrated another firm and stole their trial strategy. Although, that would never have happened because the other firm would know who opposing counsel is from day 1. So, in this regard, HIMYM does not pass the bar.

      With all that out of the way, I have to say I really liked the episode. It seems like a real return to form from the older seasons: a focused episode with secondary and tertiary stories that tie back into the events of the episode smoothly. Nice job there. It was great to see Marshall finally do something other than provide comic relief or be the man attached to a baby. It was nice to see him actually caring about the environment again, instead of channeling his inner Oprah. And I LOVE the idea of him being a judge. How awesome would that be?! Some of the callbacks were good, too. The brunch thing with Brad was a nice touch. Brad’s rocky relationship with his girlfriend, too.

      I thought the story of “Who’s a teenage badass” was fun, just because it got to show the group in some funny lights, but it was still a little over the top. I do love Teenage Lily, though, particularly with Scooter. I don’t care that the guy is NPH’s husband. He’s freakin’ funny, and the two of them together work well for comedic purposes. Also, for those who didn’t get the HYSTERICAL reference that was Lily’s bit, it was a shout out to The Wire and possibly one of the greatest characters ever on television: Omar. Here’s the scene, if you’re curious. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueDjiAm5rzE So, that was just flat-out awesome.

      I liked how the story with Barney and Robin was interwoven, too. I don’t think they did the “badass” story just so Barney could say that at the end. I think that story stood on its own and Barney’s statement simply related it to the rest of the episode rather being a complete standalone story. To me, that was good structuring of the tertiary long-term arc. Now, that said….there are times when I just want to smack the crap out of Robin and say “PULL YOUR S*** TOGETHER, WOMAN!!!!” Barney pursues, and she retreats. Barney retreats, and she gets interested. GAH!!! ENOUGH ALREADY. Lay your freakin’ cards on the table and have done with it! I think, however, we’re building to something pretty momentous here, and in the very near future. The back-and-forth can only go on for so much longer.

      And when it does, I’m hoping Ted is thrown for a loop. This should be meaningful for Ted. The girl he dreamed about, on and off, for 7 (or 8?) years is getting married…to one of his best friends. Even if he’s happy for them, that’s got to have an impact on him, and I look forward to seeing what that is. Which brings me to my last bit on this episode. Yeah, Ted had basically nothing to do. But I’m ok with that. Not EVERY episode is Ted-centric or needs to be, but it does need to advance the story of how Ted gets to where he winds up, and I think this episode did that. Last episode had some nice Ted-centric stuff, even if it was retrospective, so I can forgive an episode that shifts focus from him.

      Anyway, I suspect we’re headed into a good stretch of episodes until the winter break. Here’s hopin’.

      • Tuesday, November 27th, 2012 10:40 am GMT -4 at 10:40 am

        Your critic towards the legal stuff is exactly what I yelled at the screen when Klaus appeared in “Farhampton” and…could not speak proper German.
        Why not hire a German actor? Why not ask someone who speaks German if a word exists or not.

        • Tuesday, November 27th, 2012 10:43 am GMT -4 at 10:43 am

          Yeah, and I think ultimately it comes down to a simple answer: that’s not really very important. The audience can’t tell the difference (except for German speakers and those in the legal community…), and anyway it’s all done in service to the jokes and the story.

          The Klaus thing didn’t bother me as much mostly because I assumed the words were made up anyway. Kind of like that Monty Python sketch about the funniest joke in the world. None of the German in that is real, either, but that’s not the point.

          The legal thing, though, had basic stuff. I’m talking, like, if Klaus used a feminine word to describe a masculine noun (does German “gender” its nouns like many of the romance languages?) or whathaveyou. To me, that’d be a similarly glaring screwup. Or, you know, like when you try to say you’re from somewhere and end up saying you’re a jelly donut…

        • Tuesday, November 27th, 2012 01:51 pm GMT -4 at 1:51 pm

          yea i agree… that is why i loved it minus the law rant.. idk if the jury bothered me more or the “decorum in the courtroom” of the lawyer did…

          but it doesn’t really hurt the storyline which was great

      • Wednesday, November 28th, 2012 04:07 pm GMT -4 at 4:07 pm

        I’m also a lawyer and I pretty much hated this episode. I’m pretty sure my pausing and correcting ruined it for my wife too. Starting with Brad posing as a job candidate to take photos of their trial strategy charts (which they leave up in the conference room during interviews, of course) the entire trial was ridiculous. I know it’s a sitcom, but I feel like in the past they have at least tried not to be so … sitcommy?

        I fully agree with you about the “Frog King” line, though – that was the only time I laughed out loud during the episode.

    68. Tuesday, November 27th, 2012 03:45 pm GMT -4 at 3:45 pm

      Nice episoded with many flashbacks, arcs etc. Maybe there is hope for the rest of the season. The lines, actions and plot between Barney and Robin are great.

      I am in medicine and feel the same way when medical things come up in shows, like how Ted came out of a T-bone taxi accident with just a scrape etc. But for sitcoms you just have to “suspend reality.” “Not guilty” is much more dramatic than “the company is liable,” just saying. Twlelve Angry Men was one of the best movies ever made…nice shout out to it.

      Did anyone catch the famous actor playing a judge? An older (and heavier) Mr Belding from Saved by the Bell….

    69. Tuesday, November 27th, 2012 07:44 pm GMT -4 at 7:44 pm

      I dont hate this episode… But the jury? Really???

    70. Tuesday, November 27th, 2012 08:14 pm GMT -4 at 8:14 pm

      Hey guys, first time commenter here.

      Really thought this episode was a mixed bag. Some great one-liners – “Great, now I’ve angered the Frog King” – and cameos – always good to see Scooter and loved seeing Mr Belding.

      But the second they showed Brad going into Frog Lake, it was pretty obvious that was going to be the twist ending which would win Marshall the case. However since it gave Marshall some hopeful future development, I mean, it really fits that he would want to become a lawyer.

      And also I wanted there to be more follow-up to the Barney/Robin kiss, especially Lily’s reaction (maybe a ‘Woo’?).
      Don’t get me wrong, I really felt for Barney when he said he was done. I’ve made that speech and know how hard it is and NPH played it really well. Just feel like it’s time for Robin to FINALLY admit how she feels about Barney instead of constantly running away from it.

      Personally, I’d love to see the long over-due Robin romantic speech to Barney. We’ve had two this season and the whole ‘Tick, Tick’ episode last season where Barney’s really went for Robin, and I’d love to finally hear Robin put it all out there to Barney.

      Just some random thoughts and ideas I had:

      - Would anyone be opposed to Barney telling Robin he can’t trust her not to run away from them again, and Robin proposing to Barney to prove her love? It would fit their characters in my opinion.

      - Should the GNB Building become kind of a new base location for Ted scenes for a while? We haven’t seen a lot of Ted in a work environment recently and it would give him a little focus.

      - Is it possible for us to get some more Marshall/Baby Marvin solo scenes? I get that he works and Lily is at home more. But there hasn’t been any just father/son moments without Lily being there.

      - I know this is kinda out there, but I’d like to see Kevin make a cameo later this season. I feel that his relationship with Robin didn’t really get any closure and ended quiet abruptly, especially since he’d just proposed to her. And I’d love to see his reaction when he finds out Robin and Barney slept together. Maybe he turns up at the wedding and goes to punch Barney but Ted gets involved and hurts his hand which would explain why it was such a long story and why Ted’s hand is bandaged at the platform.

      Thanks for hopefully reading this. Enjoyed reading your comments for the last year or so! Be Awesome!

    71. Wednesday, November 28th, 2012 03:05 pm GMT -4 at 3:05 pm

      Okay finally got a chance to watch the episode with only a few breaks. Ted started this one off talking about his best friend. I liked that. The episode ended with Kick butt Lily on the street whistling. I get it now. Marshall may be the best brawler in the group but Lily was a mean little girl!!

      No mention of the baby sitter. Guess it was Lily’s dad. Ted needs a story now. So who is going to do something stupid next episode???

      This one gets a B from me. It was not complicated, easy to follow and had all the main cast members. It moved along the story of Barney and Robin thus moving us closer to their wedding and indirectly Ted meeting MOM.

      Brunch is okay sometimes but best not planned out, especially between those two guys. Did you like future Marvin fishing with Dad? No baby Marvin but they got him in the episode.

      Last thing I will say to the writers… Give Ted something important to do again please.

    72. Thursday, November 29th, 2012 10:13 am GMT -4 at 10:13 am

      On the laywer/legal stuff, I’ve said it before, and I’m probably gonna say it again, but hey, Ted is an unreliable narrator. I’m a layman, just like Ted, and the only thing I kind of really reacted to was the composition of the jury. First off, the fact that Brad would have been debarred by reason of what he did and all that goes together with that, such that Marshall would have known from day one that Brad was on the other side of the case. Well, Solo and several others obviously know that this could just not have happened. But Ted does probably does not, and does he relate a first hand experience or second hand news? The Brad/Marshall angle on the story probably is given to Ted by Marshall, and what is to say that Marshall hasn’t twisted facts a bit, or that Ted hasn’t misunderstood them, were they to be untwisted.
      Similarly, court proceedings, come on, how many non-lawyers know the difference between criminal case guilty and civil case liable? I didn’t. Why would Ted? And he is recounting events that happened eighteen years ago (the story telling does occur in 2030 if I recall right), and which laymen would not substitute out a “liable” from a day in court to “guilty” 18 years later.
      The behavior on the court of the Brad, the Judge, the “steno” etc are all easily explained with being Ted’s (somewhat exaggerated) interpretation of what did actually happen. There’s a lot of subjective leeway in how to interpret someone’s behavior and demeanor. The only thing I really find difficult to explain is the jury composition, because it struck me as being unrealistic, which means with almost 100% certainty that Ted himself also would know that this jury simply could not be. And that is the kind of fact that time would not alter either.
      The only thing that holds water on that point, is that he is simply fibbing.

      • Thursday, November 29th, 2012 10:32 am GMT -4 at 10:32 am

        Wow, excellent points, and something I too often forget: Ted is an unreliable narrator.

        I do think it’s unlikely that Ted would have completely botched something like Brad stealing the trial strategy, but hey, maybe Future Ted is mixing up facts. Perhaps a disheveled Brad did show up for an interview at some time well before the trial, and then ended up as opposing counsel in the case. During the case, Marshall complains to Ted “I can’t get anywhere with this guy. It’s like he knows my whole strategy from the start!” Then Ted jokes “Maybe he stole it when he interviewed,” Marshall laughs with a “Yeah, that must be it,” and they go on sipping their beer. 18 years later, Ted mixes up all teh facts in his mind, like the one episode where Barney saved Lily from being hit by a car, only this time he doesn’t realize it.

        As for the jury composition, maybe Future Ted took a tip from Barney and embellished the story. Might’ve been that the jury was a majority of women (no problem there — women are a majority in society), and that one or two of them were clearly attracted to Brad. Then taht gets blown into “No, seriously they were, like, ALL women, and I swear Brad was showing his ass off in the middle of court! That was, like, his ENTIRE STRATEGY!! Even the judge was looking!! And he was a DUDE!!”

        Alas, this would be a good moment for the Mother to walk in, interrupt, and say “Honey, when you told me that story, none fo that happened,” at which point Future Ted says, “Can you just…I mean….come on…”

        Anyway, great point on this being Future Ted’s retelling. Something I all too often forget (probably because they use Bob Saget far less nowadays than they used to).

        • Thursday, November 29th, 2012 06:46 pm GMT -4 at 6:46 pm

          Awesome idea! I would like to see YM walkin and interrupt Ted’s story.

    73. Thursday, November 29th, 2012 07:12 pm GMT -4 at 7:12 pm

      Yeah, but it’d have to be only like once or twice. It couldn’t be a common occurrence.

    74. Thursday, November 29th, 2012 08:56 pm GMT -4 at 8:56 pm

      You re great boys :)

    75. Friday, November 30th, 2012 05:25 pm GMT -4 at 5:25 pm

      Guys come on! I have been in Radio and TV for 20 years and I have to overlook technical “impossibilities” constantly. That doesn’t mean WKRP in Cincinnati wasn’t awesome!

    76. Sunday, December 2nd, 2012 09:26 pm GMT -4 at 9:26 pm

      I am with Trent above.. I am sure EVERY person in ANY profession can watch a TV or Movie portrayal of their profession and pick it apart with minimal effort. As a teacher/coach the amount of things out there are totally laughable. From serious ventures like “Stand and Deliver” and “Friday Night Lights” to complete farces like “Glee” or “Varsity Blues”.

      Not sure why anyone would really spend time trying to complain about that?

    77. Monday, December 3rd, 2012 01:47 am GMT -4 at 1:47 am

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      • Monday, December 3rd, 2012 05:08 pm GMT -4 at 5:08 pm

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    78. ll
      Monday, December 3rd, 2012 04:54 pm GMT -4 at 4:54 pm

      I think tonight’s episode will pick up from a few weeks back and tie the rest of the month together. If they do that it will be a great ending to the first half of Season Eight.

      Has anyone heard news about a possible season 9?

      I just did a quick look but did not find anything new.

      • Monday, December 3rd, 2012 05:12 pm GMT -4 at 5:12 pm

        Most recent thing I’ve seen on Season 9 is that it’s still up in the air and probably won’t be decided on until after the new year.

        But, we aren’t at the halfway mark tonight. We’re only about 1/3 of the way through the season (depending on if they do 22 or 24 episodes).

    79. Tuesday, December 4th, 2012 02:53 am GMT -4 at 2:53 am

      is it just me or are they over doing the Lily being bi-curious for Robin thing this season? I don’t find it funny anymore. Why is Robin not more alarmed or Marshall for that matter?

      Loved Robin’s Angelina look.
      Liked the part with Barney.

      Loved Ted going overly ballistic with Marvin and so glad they had baby Marvin scenes, espscially that “first” we talked about here before. One of my favorite lines was by Marshall to Ted about being half naked and giving candy to the kids.

      Liked the end with Aunt Lily and Uncle Marshall.

      SOMETHING was missing for me, i don’t know what but i did like this episode. Minus Lily it was sweet and subtle.


    80. Tuesday, December 4th, 2012 10:07 am GMT -4 at 10:07 am

      This episode was so bad bad baaad… Too cheap.

    81. Tuesday, December 4th, 2012 10:12 am GMT -4 at 10:12 am

      Why is Barney about to get up on a fatty?

    82. Tuesday, December 4th, 2012 10:15 am GMT -4 at 10:15 am

      Ok, traditional style here, since I’m not sure if Jordan’s back this week or next.

      What Was Good: Actually, there was a ton that was good this episode. Ted actually getting to be an uncle. Ted going overboard as an uncle. Marshall not being a sassy black lady (I really did not like that bit for some reason) and instead keeping a cooler head (mostly). Robin being an idiot. Lily calling her on it. Barney growing up. (Or DID he….?) And, of course, the flash forward to Baby Girl Mosby’s first visit to Santa. Robin’s various ploys being reminiscent of Barney’s various ploys.

      What Was Bad: Ted going overboard a little too much. Robin being an idiot. Barney and Patrice on a date. (More on that in a sec.) Lily being so focused on brobibs and bi-curiousity. FOCUS, woman! You have money at stake already! (Again, more on that in a sec.) Lily in general, actually.

      General Thoughts:

      Solid episode. I actually really liked it. It advance the plot (mostly), kept its stories tight and focused, and although some jokes misfired, it didn’t really matter. I thought brobibs was kinda meh, but that’s ok. I didn’t really take it as the point. I didn’t, however, like what it did to Lily. That and the kissy kissy huggy huggy crap with Robin. Ok, I get it. Lily thinks Robin’s hot. But come on. This is getting a little overdone now. Lily has also, for the past few episodes, been a bit too over the top for my tastes. I’d be ready to have her ground things again, particularly as Robin starts to feel awful about Barney. Really, though, that was the only weak spot in this episode. And not one mention of her bet with Marshall? That’s gotta surface soon, no?

      Which brings me to my next bit. I both love and hate Robin’s behavior. I LOVE that they finally called her on it (You only want what you can’t have). Particularly the lobster gag. That was solid. However, I hate how she turned into a moron when it struck. But….it got me thinking. What if this is all part of one of Barney’s diabolical multi-layered plans? What if he recognized that he couldn’t keep going after Robin…so he knew the one way to make Robin come to him. And what if he got Robin’s coworkers to help him out with that? It’d still be evidence of Barney growing up and figuring out what he really wants. I suspect that bit in this episode was accurate…in a way. But I think that the weather girl and Patrice both were in on the plan. Particularly Patrice. I sense a reconciliation between Robin and Patrice at some point, particularly because they’re (A) trying to make Patrice look like a decent person, if a bit batty, and (B) because Robin SO hates her.

      I do not, however, buy that Barney and Patrice were on a date. A “friend date” maybe, but not a DATE date. No freakin’ way. And THAT is why I suspect it’s a ploy by Barney. The ultimate ploy to get his ultimate girl. He’s gotta know it will drive Robin crazy to have him walk away, and to have him spend time with her “nemesis” Patrice and such. He’s gotta know it’ll make Robin INSANE that he turns down sex with the hot weather girl, just to hang out with NOT ROBIN. So, why else do it, if not to lure Robin back? It’s diabolical, it’s brilliant, it’s manipulative….it’s Barney.

      Now, as for Ted. I love that Ted gets excited to be a part of Marshall and Lily’s life with Marvin. I love that Ted loves being an uncle. My only quibble with this storyline was the reason behind it. I mean, yeah, the GNB building was his “baby” in a sense…but there’s more, I think, and they didn’t really address it (but maybe they will later?). See, Ted’s life right now is…kinda pointless and meaningless. And I suspect that will become clearer as Robin and Barney finally pair off, and as Marshall and Lily get more involved with their kids. It’s kind of an inevitability that when you’re a single among couples, particularly married couples, and particularly one with a baby, that your stuff just…isn’t as important. They started touching on this last season with the whole “Sorry, Ted, that’s like a 2″ thing, but it goes beyond that. For a guy like Ted, where does he find meaning in his life at this stage of the game? Work? Yeah, that’s satisfying, but work ends and you go home and stare at your walls or the TV or something. Dating? A string of ultimately unsatisfying encounters with women where it won’t work out? Not so much. Friends? Sure, but…they’ve got their own lives which are separate from yours — and in the case of Lily and Marshall, and Robin and Barney, they have lives with each other that don’t include you. It’s the ultimate “third wheel” feeling except in a more existential sense. That’s what I took to be behind Ted’s “Tedding out” over Marvin. He needs a purpose. He knows what he wants that to be — marriage and family — but sees no light at the end of the tunnel for reaching that. So, he’s going for a substitute in this case, namely going overboard by being an uncle. They could’ve said all of this, but it probably would’ve made the episode run over by about 10 min or so. Plus it would’ve been rather a downer. I wouldn’t be surprised, though, if they hit this in some moment down the road.

      Anyway, great episode, and I’m liking where this is going. However, I’m thinking that if Season 8 is it…they’ve really gotta get to the Robin/Barney wedding by no later than Episode 18. And even then, we’ll still end up with a flash forward to Ted’s wedding, with a lot of gaps in between. That could still work, of course, but I’m still thinking I’d like a season with the Mother before they get hitched.

      • Wednesday, December 5th, 2012 09:00 pm GMT -4 at 9:00 pm

        I totally agree with your idea that Barney is doing all this to get Robin back. When it first showed Patrice at Barney’s place, I automatically assumed she was talking to him about Robin and how to get her back. However, once he said they were on a date, I was totally surprised. Your idea makes so much sense, and you’re completely right that it’s so Barney.

        • Thursday, December 6th, 2012 10:25 am GMT -4 at 10:25 am

          I guess we will see in the next few episodes if that is true or not. The show is getting very interesting. As usual the writers have slow played us this season. Now we need to wait for the Winter break to review the progress.

          If I go back and read what we all have said, they put a lot of content in a few episodes skipping over some scenes that we would have liked to have explained better. This seems to have been done on purpose so that we could get to this point faster.

          For those who watch the series with a more detailed eye it was somewhat unsettling. For the casual viewer they may not have noticed. With Time we forget about it and just enjoy the show.

          That is my take. Would like to hear if anyone else has a different view or more to add??

      • Saturday, December 8th, 2012 01:26 pm GMT -4 at 1:26 pm

        Never thought of it as being a Barney play. But that makes total sense. And it is nice case of misdirection on the part of the writers. We get presented with a bunch of plays from Robin’s playbook, and forget (at least I did) that the master player himself is no-one else than Barney.
        And I did like playbook take.
        Did not like so much the bib-stuff.

    83. Tuesday, December 4th, 2012 11:10 am GMT -4 at 11:10 am

      B+ Just some quick thoughts because I just watched the on-line version of the show.

      I could easily see Barney Date Patrice for a few Episodes in the background.

      1) She (Patrice) is safe for him. The chance of them hooking up is SLIM (sorry just the Ted in me). He can date her all he wants and it should be just social. He did could have created quite the STORM in the weather room but made a wise choice. He said his gun was cocked and ready.

      2) If Barney is BAITING Robin like a fish on the line, he is just waiting for the right moment to set the HOOK in her. He has to make Robin 100 percent sure she will never want anyone else but Barney. (everyone has someone on the hook)

      3) Obviously Barney is 100 percent stuck on Robin’s hook. She has him and it is just a matter of the right moment in time.

      4) Ted was Ted and it was a nice story for HIM. We got the building finished and a head hunter ready for the Teachers next side job. Now all we need is to see Ted work on his house. I wonder if they are saving that reveal closer to meeting the MOM. Marshall and Lily are all about getting even Ted. Remember they like to WIN at everything (best couple ever).

    84. Owl
      Tuesday, December 4th, 2012 11:46 am GMT -4 at 11:46 am

      I was disappointed by the episode, but loved
      a) how the baby is watching Barney in the first scene
      b) the allusions on the playbook

      • Tuesday, December 4th, 2012 12:20 pm GMT -4 at 12:20 pm

        @ Owl
        Again I just watched the episode quickly but I missed both your points a and b. Looks like I need to re-watch.

        @ Everyone else
        I sent a message to a friend about the way the season has focused on Barney and Robin and he responded that I was being unfair. Really I think that it is hard not to focus on them right now!

        Until Barney’s wedding Ted is not going to be able to tell his story completely. He has the building and some flash forwards to the baby girl. We are getting some future stories but not the MOM. so 1) I feel the Ted story is at a pause until Barney’s wedding.

        2) Marshall will be a judge someday and he is a Dad now
        3) Lily is a mom and a teacher.

        Robin is tied in with Barney so I can not remember if all the stories that we had been told about will happen have happened?

        Really can anyone tell me a future event story from the past that has not been told?

        Until the wedding Ted is a side anecdote.

        an·ec·dote/?anik?d?t/Noun: A short and amusing or interesting story about a real incident or person.
        An account regarded as unreliable or hearsay.

        No longer does this make me sad for Ted. Yes his sex life is non existent but the same can be said for Barney and Robin right now. Actually it was that way for Marshall and Lily. Funny!

        Everyone seems to have a little part in each episode. The writers are doing a good job keeping everyone relevant except Lily. Again I do not know anything she has accomplished outside of being a MOM, Wife, Teacher, everyones therapist… Oh yes she is involved in everything.

        Just a few thoughts that we can discuss about what is yet to come from the writers this year???

        • Tuesday, December 4th, 2012 09:58 pm GMT -4 at 9:58 pm

          Really can anyone tell me a future event story from the past that has not been told?

          in the season 7 episode 12, at the end future ted said: “She was briefly a bull fighter, thats a funny story, ill get to that later”

      • Tuesday, December 4th, 2012 10:07 pm GMT -4 at 10:07 pm


        I have season 7 on DVD and now it is also on Netflix so I will pull that one up. Bull Fighter… hope they get to that one. If you have some more ready go ahead and share them please. I want replay some more. If you do not have the episode that is okay I can usually find it on Wiki.

        • Tuesday, December 4th, 2012 10:12 pm GMT -4 at 10:12 pm

          i do not have the the episode, but that story i have been waiting for, thats the episode robin is crying cause she find she cant have kids.

        • Wednesday, December 5th, 2012 09:04 pm GMT -4 at 9:04 pm

          Name of the episode is Symphony of Illumination, and the moment he brings up the bull fighting story is right at the end when Ted is comforting Robin

    85. Tuesday, December 4th, 2012 01:20 pm GMT -4 at 1:20 pm

      While I’m glad the gimmicky / sitcommy stuff seems to have gone away for the time being … I’d wish they would speed up the Barney / Robin story line. We all know they get together so all of this back and forth is just wasting air time.

      • Tuesday, December 4th, 2012 03:35 pm GMT -4 at 3:35 pm

        Steve, so as not to come off sarcastic (I do that sometimes) I disagree. If they speed up Barney/Robin it will mean no season 9. I have gone both directions on End it with 8 or go to season 9. I like what Solo is saying below.

        I want to get to a wedding so I can meet the mother. I do not think that speeding the Barney/Robin relationship along will help because; they need to show a proper build up to a lasting relationship (B/R and Ted/Mother). If the Ship goes to quick it will eventually Stink or Sink, something like that.

        I like the effort Solo has put into his comments on this Episode. like the thoughts below 8 or 9 We will see.

        Now can anyone else find some NOT YET EXPLORED stories that either Ted has mentioned in 8 years or that you think need to be brought out before the end of the Series.

        • Tuesday, December 4th, 2012 10:02 pm GMT -4 at 10:02 pm

          in the season 7 episode 12, at the end future ted said: “She was briefly a bull fighter, thats a funny story, ill get to that later”

        • Wednesday, December 5th, 2012 09:16 pm GMT -4 at 9:16 pm

          The only things I can think of besides the bull fighter story are these:
          1. Though Ted never talks about it, the Wedding Bride 2 needs to come out (because when he tells the mother he loves her for the first time they are at the Wedding Bride 3)
          2. I’m pretty sure there might be one or two places that Robin hasn’t lived in yet. This was talked about when Robin and Ted broke up: Robin said she wanted to live in a bunch of places and future Ted says that she did end up doing that.
          3. We’ll definitely see it in this season, but the clip of Barney and Robin meeting for lunch (which was played in the Pre-Nup) still needs to happen.
          4. I’m sorry that this is so vague, but I honestly can’t remember this one well… there was definitely an episode in season 8 where Ted said “but we’ll get to that later”. However, I think it was either about the Autumn of Breakups and how the couples weren’t going to make it, or it was about Marshall going to be a judge.

          Sorry those are all I remember. I think other then that, there are no other stories we’re waiting for (the writers probably don’t want to set up a story they might not get to if 8 is the last one)

        • Saturday, December 8th, 2012 01:42 pm GMT -4 at 1:42 pm

          Wedding Bride 3 first time Ted tells YM he loves her is a definite goof. Correct me if I’m wrong but there’s at least a year between sequels of movies. 1 need to released, become successful enough to warrant a sequel, than the sequel is produced, marketed and released. Minimum schedule a year, I would say.
          I assume Ted tells YM he loves her the first time before they produce offspring, even before they get married. We now he daughter is going to be born rather soon (2 years hence or s/g like that, I don’t recall the time references). Wedding Bride 1 was what, season 6? Wedding Bride 3 would need to be in production now to make the time schedule of being released when Ted Teds YM. So Wedding Bride 2 would already be released and successfully so. Time constraints for two sequels are too tight to fit with what we know of Ted’s life development.
          Just sayin’

    86. Tuesday, December 4th, 2012 01:43 pm GMT -4 at 1:43 pm


      - Robin and Barney will be back together by the mid-season break on 12/17. I could see them getting engaged, too, simply based on Barney saying “Enough screwing around. I know I love you, I know no one else makes me as happy as you do and no one else ever will. Let’s do this.” Or something.

      - A decision will be made on the fate of Season 9 (yes or no) probably after the new year. I would think it would have to be made relatively quickly after the new year, simply to allow for production and writing schedules to work. I would bet the first three episodes after they’re back will cut either way, but…

      - If there IS a Season 9, we’ll get Robin and Barney in a slow cooker, and the wedding will be the season finale. Maybe it’ll end with Ted saying “And that, kids, is how I met your mother,” with the mother maybe interjecting and saying something about “Tell them about how we got to the wedding. That’s a good story and you can tell it relatively quickly.” Maybe even bring her on as a co-narrator next season.

      - If there ISN’T a Season 9, then a safe bet would be that Robin and Barney’s wedding is NOT the series finale, and instead, is something like Episode 18 or so. That’d leave between 4 and 6 episodes to wrap up Ted and the Mother, let us get to know her, and then have Ted propose and we get a wedding-and-birth-of-kids montage, with a wrap up on what happened to everyone.

      - There is also a possibility we’ll get a hybrid of the above two, with a long slow process to Robin and Barney’s wedding, and a double-length finale, where the second half is a loooooong montage about what ultimately happened between Ted and the Mother. While this would be my least preferred result, it’s the one I think is most flexible, since you could show that and still have stories to tell in a greenlit Season 9 (about the events in between). So, from a writing and production standpoint, I actually think THIS is the most likely scenario.

      • Wednesday, December 5th, 2012 09:21 pm GMT -4 at 9:21 pm

        I like all these theories, however I feel like one issue with bringing the mother in to co-narrate or get involved with the future story telling would be the kids. They’ve already filmed a potential ending with the mother so they look the same, but it would be hard to introduce new scenes in the future with the mother if the kids can’t be re-filmed. It can definitely be worked around, but I think it might be tricky.

    87. Tuesday, December 4th, 2012 10:12 pm GMT -4 at 10:12 pm

      Am i allowed to post a theory of mine here? For the next few episodes

      • Tuesday, December 4th, 2012 10:28 pm GMT -4 at 10:28 pm

        Jordan is the Man to ask but as long as it is spoiler link free he usually encourages everyone to theorize. Hope I said that correctly. I would like to hear what you think about the HIMYM show.

        • Tuesday, December 4th, 2012 10:40 pm GMT -4 at 10:40 pm

          I’m a bit unsure, i think my theory might be a little spoilerish. Anyways, I’ll write it down here, and if it’s considered to be a spoiler, it can be taken down

          Here goes..
          So in Lobster Crawl, we saw Robin’s take on the Playbook. I think this episode creates an arc for the next two episodes scheduled for Dec 10th and Dec 17th.
          On the 17th there’ll be an hour long episode. If noticed the 8×12 episode was first called ‘The Robin’ but has now been changed and called ‘The Final Page Pt 2′.
          In Lobster Crawl we saw Barney be slightly out of character when he said he was on a date with Patrice. I understand that there’s something known as character development but this seemed a little too extreme. Also how nonreactive he was to Robin’s get up seemed rather suspicious.
          Therefore what I feel is that, Barney is putting up a play. And ‘The Robin’ is the “Final Page’ of his Playbook as an attempt to get Robin. And of course Patrice is part of this set – up
          What do you guys think?

      • Tuesday, December 4th, 2012 10:45 pm GMT -4 at 10:45 pm

        I agree

        • Wednesday, December 5th, 2012 09:37 pm GMT -4 at 9:37 pm

          Marissa, you have to be right. I had no idea that the episode was originally called “The Robin”, though I did just see that we’ve got the 2 part finale called “The Final Page”. It’s so obvious now that Robin is his last play, I can see why the writers decided to change the name of the episode. It would have given too much away, had it stayed the original name.

        • Thursday, December 6th, 2012 04:19 pm GMT -4 at 4:19 pm

          yep, it was called “the robin” on wikipedia last week, not it’s the final page 1 and 2.

        • Thursday, December 6th, 2012 04:21 pm GMT -4 at 4:21 pm


      • Wednesday, December 5th, 2012 09:44 am GMT -4 at 9:44 am

        Solid theory. I agree. (Also said something similar a few posts back.)

        As a general housekeeping matter, Jordan is the one with the final say on what can be posted (seeing as how he probably has moderator rights and can likely nuke posts deemed problematic), but as a matter of decorum, we tend not to post actual spoilers.

        In my opinion, that means:

        - Actual statements of what happens next. Particularly things that websites describe as spoilers.

        - Statements by the creators on the future direction of the series in terms of plot (obviously, something like “We’ve been greenlit for Season 9″ wouldn’t be a spoiler).

        - In some cases, I think episode titles CAN be spoilers, but production schedules can change, and after editing, the focus of an episode can shift. something as simple as cutting a few scenes from one of the storylines in an episode can totally shift the focus of the storyline itself, or shift focus to one of the other storylines. Case in point: last year’s “Return of the Slutty Pumpkin” episode was originally titled “Perfect on Paper.” My suspicion is that there was more discussion of how great Naomi (the Slutty Pumpkin) was “on paper” for Ted, but how in person they just didn’t mesh. But they probably deleted those scenes as being redundant, and focused instead simply on the depiction of the awkwardness, rather than talking about it.

        I don’t consider the following to be spoilers:

        - Casting news. (e.g. when we learned that Michael Trucco was coming back finally.)

        - Production news (see above — greenlit for season 9 is not a spoiler, if it happens).

        - A vague description of a story on another site, which doesn’t reveal the spoiler itself, but includes a link to the site. (e.g. “Hey guys, interview with Jason Segel on E! News about the direction this season’s taking. Check it out at [link].”) This way, folks can click on the link or not, but it’s not like they have to suddenly shut their eyes to avoid the spoiler.

        Again, this is NOT any kind of official statement, as I speak with no kind of official voice here. Just my opinion is all.

        • Thursday, December 6th, 2012 12:54 am GMT -4 at 12:54 am

          Thanks for confirming that Solo4114 .
          Hopefully my theory wouldn’t be considered a very big spoiler, because it does seem likely it’ll happen :/

    88. Wednesday, December 5th, 2012 10:52 am GMT -4 at 10:52 am

      Just another thought, WHERE IS TED’s SISTER (was it Heather). Ted did co-sign an apartment in New York for her Season 4 Episode 11 if I remember correctly. Not a mention of her since. Is Erin Cahill that busy or do the writers not have a place for her in the show? I would think a guest appearance from a on screen family member may spice up the show!

      I understand why we have not seen Barney’s Dad. The actor, John Lithgow, that played him has been on stage. http://johnlithgow.com

      Can you thing of another actor or actress that they should bring back on the show before the end?

      • Wednesday, December 5th, 2012 02:41 pm GMT -4 at 2:41 pm


        • Wednesday, December 5th, 2012 03:15 pm GMT -4 at 3:15 pm

          Yes I had not thought of him. I know the writers want to bring back some old guest stars. They said that back in Sept. 30 of 2012. I am glad I did not click on this SPOILER LINK http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/09/30/how-i-met-your-mother-creators-on-setting-up-the-final-pieces back then. So this is in the past and talks about the show up through the end of this year INCLUDING THE THEME for the NEXT THREE SHOWS.

          DO NOT CLICK ON THE LINK until Christmas because it will be a partial SPOILER. I found some other older ones saying basically the same thing from interviews.

          I also found a cast interview from NOV. 30th but do not have the courage to click on the link because I do not want to hear about the series in 2013.

          Nothing some of us have not already guessed at but to have confirmation may ruin the episodes.

        • Thursday, December 6th, 2012 10:47 am GMT -4 at 10:47 am

          Ranjit has to drive the Limo at the Wedding!! We also need to see Robin’s Dad Barney’s Mom and Dad (with his entire family). Ted’s Sister should be there if she is still in New York. Marshal’s Mom and Lily’s Dad. Robin has only talked to her mom on the phone it would be great to see her at this point. Ted’s old girlfriend Cindy (roommate of the mom) would be a surprise guest somehow the day of Barney’s Wedding. She could be around to see her roommate play in a band at a near by event and run into Ted. The Wedding will be a multi episode arch so plenty of time to get a lot of past guest stars involved.

        • Thursday, December 6th, 2012 02:44 pm GMT -4 at 2:44 pm

          i don’t know if anyone mentioned him but Barney’s brother and his son!! They’re so cute.

      • Thursday, December 6th, 2012 04:11 pm GMT -4 at 4:11 pm

        they should get someone like debbie (sorry, deborah) gibson to play robin’s mom. so what she’s only like 12 years older than cobie, it could still work!! :P

        • Thursday, December 6th, 2012 05:40 pm GMT -4 at 5:40 pm

          Personally I would think someone older that Debbie would be better for the part considering she had two daughters with Robin’s much older dad. Then again those actors have had younger wives on their Daytime Soaps.

          Katie Scherbatsky played by Lucy Hale was talked out of a bad situation by Ted. She was also seen in a flash back to Robin’s childhood. She was too young at the time to be hit on by her future brother-in-law Barney.

          James and Tom with their kids Eli and Sadi have to be at the wedding.

      • Saturday, December 8th, 2012 01:51 pm GMT -4 at 1:51 pm


    89. Friday, December 7th, 2012 12:03 am GMT -4 at 12:03 am

      I’d like to see claudia and Stu again. I always thought they were funny

    90. Friday, December 7th, 2012 06:52 am GMT -4 at 6:52 am

      At the moment I have this HIMYM marathon (I like doing it time to time) and I also remembered there characters. I esspecialy miss Ted s sister and Claudia and Stuart. They were mentioned (their wedding, first child, the intervention) but it s while….

    91. Friday, December 7th, 2012 10:37 am GMT -4 at 10:37 am

      Just watched the ending of the Episode about Barney’s Perfect Week with Jim Nantz and then Rabbit or Duck is starting with Rajit driving Barney around with his Magic phone from the Super Bowl.

      My point is this, both episodes Revolved around Barney and are about gimmicks. Both are very funny. Ted humiliated a student by saying her name repeatedly in a derogatory way including at the Bar last scene. Barney in both episodes demeaned the women he sleeps with as a game of conquest while Robin watches dis-interestingly.

      Okay now my point. I looked back on these episodes and laughed saying they are pretty good. If they did those episodes now we would probably rip them for not advancing the Ted Mom story.

      My point continued is this: I am very anxious to see the MOM and need to slow down and enjoy the episodes as they come because the series will be over faster than we want it to be.

      • Friday, December 7th, 2012 12:16 pm GMT -4 at 12:16 pm

        Excellent point. I came to a similar conclusion this summer when I marathoned the whole series including Season 7.

        I remember picking apart episodes on this blog during Season 7′s airing, but when I went back and re-watched them, they really weren’t taht bad. They were fun and I even saw the overall through-line of the stories and how the characters all developed. I still think it’s tough to top the first three seasons, but they had a lot more room to play during those seasons, so in some sense it was easier for them to do the things I love (develop the characters, show real emotional growth, all while bringing the funny).

        I trust the writers to do a good job. Maybe not a perfect one, but a good one. That said, this last run of episodes has been pretty solid, in my opinion, notwithstanding a few hiccups.

    92. Friday, December 7th, 2012 02:40 pm GMT -4 at 2:40 pm

      I just rewatched season 1. Do we already know who made the new doormat for Robin and as I can remember we still don’t know the Lovesolution girl, right?

      • Friday, December 7th, 2012 02:58 pm GMT -4 at 2:58 pm

        Dunno re: the doormat. I don’t think that was ever a great mystery. She just bought a new one, no?

        As for LoveSolutions girl…

        I think it’s the Mother. The Mother being the LoveSolutions girl would fit with one of the overall messages of the show, that being that things don’t really happen until you’re ready for them to happen, even if you THINK you’re ready.

        Ted, particularly in Season 1, thought he was ready to meet his future wife and mother of his children. But the truth is, he wasn’t ready to meet her. He was ready to start getting ready. One need look no further than how Ted blew off the date with LoveSolutions girl because he didn’t want “perfect,” he wanted Robin. He had to get Robin out of his system (which arguably took EIGHT FREAKIN’ YEARS) before he’d be ready. And, of course, he needed those other experiences, too.

        But yeah, I think sort of the overarching message is that things don’t happen until you’re ready for them. You see something similar with Robin and Barney. They clearly get along terrifically as early as Season 1. When they dated, neither was really ready for it to go anywhere, so it was a dismal failure. But it was a failure of timing, rather than a failure of who they are as people together. After some other experiences, a little growth and self-reflection, they’re ready.

        I think the same will be true with Ted and the Mother who will turn out to have been the girl he could’ve met back in Season 1.

        This might not happen, of course, but to me it’d “fit” the show if it did.

        • Friday, December 7th, 2012 03:36 pm GMT -4 at 3:36 pm

          No she didn’t buy it herself in the end of the ep 1×15 Ted says not every story was told that night and the same time Robin opens the door and there is new doormat Scherbatsky written on it. I always have thought that it might have been present from Barney but I’m not sure.

        • Friday, December 7th, 2012 03:39 pm GMT -4 at 3:39 pm

          As per usual Solo, I think your analysis is spot on! I couldn’t agree more!

          Also, I want Ranjit back SO badly! When was the last time he was on an episode?

          Lastly, I loved this past episode and the reference to the play book, BUT I don’t think the writers had to make Robin out to be a bumbling dimwit to achieve this goal. Again, I have said this 19876398769 times before; When they make the characters act as caricatures , it gets too sitcommy and TOO much for the loyal fans! It makes the gags NOT FUNNY! The only person I would argue who has always been a caricature and therefore, doesn’t offend me when he is over the top is Barney. That is because they established early on that that is the essence of his character. Even Ted being over the top doesn’t offend me as much because normally its when he is being douchbaggy, and they’ve always shown how pretentious he can be! But when it is Lily, Robin, or Marshall portrayed as caricatures, it just doesn’t work because its a complete 180 from how their characters have always been portrayed. Just my two sense.

          PS. I agree about the “final page 1 and 2″ having something to do with Barney’s final play to get Robin. If that is the case, I think its is brilliant on the writers’ parts!

          Happy Friday everyone!

        • Friday, December 7th, 2012 03:58 pm GMT -4 at 3:58 pm

          Glad you liked my thoughts! My take on the caricahture issue is that in this case, it’s a little different because Robin KNEW she was being an idiot and still couldn’t help herself. She’s done this a few times before, and certainly we’ve seen evidence that robin ALWAYS wants what she can’t have. Ted, Barney, lobster, etc. It’s freakin’ pathological. You tell Robin “You can’t have that,” and now she has NEVER WANTED ANYTHING MORE IN HER LIFE.

          In the episode, even she realizes how dumb she’s being. T hat internal monologue with her conscience was good for that. So, I forgive THIS instance of it. Other instances just get too sitcommy, like you said.

        • Friday, December 7th, 2012 04:28 pm GMT -4 at 4:28 pm

          Yes, maybe on the character level I can’t be annoyed- Robin knew she was being ridiculous, BUT at the end of the day, Robin is just a character on a sitcom- She is the creation of someone! They can make her act however they would like her to… So on the meta level, this was still a sitcom ploy! =)

    93. Friday, December 7th, 2012 05:05 pm GMT -4 at 5:05 pm

      I always pictured Ted as replacing the mat he threw-up-onto in that episode as a way of saying sorry for the busted relationship. The re-return like the over drinking was a mistake.

      The writers have at times use drama to make a point or overdoing it with a character in the show. They also have had to play with scheduling stories because of things beyond their control.

      This far into the season they are on track again. I do not think they started out solid with Season 8 but have recovered.

      Does anyone know how far into the season they have filmed this year? I can never remember how many episodes they film at a time.

    94. Friday, December 7th, 2012 11:15 pm GMT -4 at 11:15 pm

      Alright so I know it’s a little late to do this, but I figured I’d give my general review of the episode now that I’ve re-watched it. I don’t know if I’m really allowed to do this, but I just kind of made a list of things I wanted to write about as the episode was playing, so here we go:
      -Barney being Robin’s “lobster” immediately reminded me of Friends. So far, the two shows have had kind of a lot of similarities between them… I’m not going to get into, but I’ll include an image that sums them up pretty well (No spoilers, unless you haven’t seen Friends, haha). The whole deal with Ross being Rachel’s “lobster” in Friends was kind of an icon from the show and it just makes me think that the writers might have been paying homage to it or something through using the same food to describe Barney and Robin. LINK BELOW:


      -I didn’t get this joke the first time (I must not have been paying close enough attention) but the “Thai food” bit playing on the word “tie” made me burst out laughing.
      -The way Robin acted really stupid did seem too sitcom-y for me, but her Voice of Reason actually made it quite funny, in my opinion.
      -In this episode, though I know Lily has a kid, she was just being a pretty terrible friend. Although she did agree to help Robin out with Barney, Lily hadn’t been paying attention to Robin’s problems at all and never really ended up giving her any decent advice. This just made me pretty disappointed in her, because though she’s my least favorite character (sorry), Lily does manage to get pretty good advice from time to time.
      -The story with Lily and Marshall missing Marvin’s first crawl wasn’t all that entertaining to me. I know it’s a tv show, but I mean you’d think that they would just stay in Marvin’s room while Ted kept yelling that he was crawling even if they’d missed it initially. I don’t know… this just kind of bugged me
      -I have no idea why, but when Robin said “When the doctor told me I can’t have lobster…” it immediately reminded me of Dr. Sonya telling her she couldn’t have kids. While Robin was pretty broken up about it, we never really saw her try to go after kids or try to find another way to have them. Just an observation.
      -I loved Robin’s playbook, it was a nice callback.
      -A lot of people have mentioned this already, but I just want to say that I, too, am a little annoyed with Lily in how much she’s been attracted to Robin recently. It’s just not really funny anymore (it wasn’t all that funny to begin with) and I think they can just stop with this joke.
      -I loved the Marshall/Robin/Brandi (spelled with an “i” instead of a y, oh boy) gag, finishing with Robin asking what she’d done wrong and Marshall just replying “nothing it was awesome.” This made me laugh too hard
      -Another thing that I found really funny was the whimper Marshall let out when Ted was showing Marshall and Lily little Marvin in his Browns shirt.
      -Okay, so this is going back to the color theory…sorry but my eyes are like trained to see purple and yellow in the show now. Anyway, I couldn’t help noticing Ted was wearing yellow swim trunks when he ended up having the meeting with the headhunter. To me, this might indicate that this meeting might have been the beginning of one of Ted’s best projects yet, or something that advances him with the mother. Either way, I’m inclined to believe that this meeting is going to play a big role in his future and hopefully we’ll get to see what happened in this week’s episode.
      -To me, Barney’s turnaround seemed a little sudden and random. I mean, to see him fall out of his element so quickly was just a little surprising and I kind of want to know what triggered it… I know he talked with Patrice, but at the beginning of the conversation he’d already sort of lost his game.
      -The final scene with Barney/Robin/Patrice left a lot of room for Barney to work his play without telling Robin he wasn’t interested in her. When Robin says it’s okay that he doesn’t know what he wants for his future, he says “I do know what I want”, which we know clearly indicates he wants Robin, not Patrice. I just think this was really well executed and it sets up the rest of his play well. Barney’s character really can be a genius.
      -Just a cute thing I noticed: The swords from Marshall and Ted’s apartment as well as the yellow umbrella are visible in Ted’s future house in the last scene of the episode. I just thought it was nice to see both a symbol of his past, the swords, mixed with a symbol of his future (for the viewers and present Ted), the umbrella.

      Sorry if this is pretty lengthy, but I just had a lot to cover. Overall, I think the episodes in season 8 have been getting better (though after Farhampton they were a little questionable). Although the break-ups weren’t done quite as well as I would have wanted them to be, the build up to Barney and Robin has been fantastic and Ted’s at least getting more of a story line now. All in all, I thought the episode was good and I can’t wait till next week!

      • Saturday, December 8th, 2012 12:24 am GMT -4 at 12:24 am

        Savanna- nice catch with the umbrella and sword! I went back to look. I love when they include stuff like this and always seem to miss it the first time I watch the show.

        Some other things I wanted to mention- OMG BABY MARVIN IS SO STINKIN CUTE! Like seriously that kid is soooo adorable. When he is watching Barney in the beginning, I was dying! Secondly, loved Robin’s Laura Croft look. Thirdly, I laughed out loud so hard when Marshall said “no it was awesome”. Fourth, you can totally tell how much Ted is craving a family at this point. I hope it means there will be development soon with the mom especially considering his daughter is already born by April 2015!

        And last but not least- Brobibs.com and dudeaprons.com are real websites. I love when HIMYM breaks the fourth wall. Too funny! Check them out!

      • Saturday, December 8th, 2012 11:21 am GMT -4 at 11:21 am

        Wow, I’ve never watched Friends but I think I will now!!

    95. Saturday, December 8th, 2012 03:20 am GMT -4 at 3:20 am

      i still can’t wrap my head around the fact that writers saw as a viable option to pair up barney and patrice… yes it all may be a gimmick but still… patrice as a character is as good as jar jar binks was for star wars… yeah, i went there… :S

    96. Saturday, December 8th, 2012 05:35 pm GMT -4 at 5:35 pm

      It looks like a long play but Barney is some genius and he never gives up. He puts a fight like an idiotic survivor who thinks he ways are right and will give him results. May be 35% of times they fail but remaining 65% of the time those idiots do win and make a route for their goals..

      Hi friends, I am happy that Barney is still trying for Robin.. Because I can’t believe that a man who said “This woman has a hold on my heart that I cannot break even if I wanted too..” will easily give up and let everything be ruined because of lack of trust.. If there is no trust then one should try and build rather give up and be mellow that u lost a lifetime opportunity…

      Ted should indeed get a good story line and start moving towards his final destination.. Now as we all know he will be the best man..may be he will look at some more funnily interesting things to say and do/realize…

      Marshall and Lily are now used as just set properties with some importance.Hope they would get some more importance in the episodes as useful advisers as normally they are…

      Hope we are on the right track for next three episodes..

      Before leaving I won’t be surprised if Robin and Patrice actually become BFFs.. yeah wishful thinking..

    97. Sunday, December 9th, 2012 10:41 pm GMT -4 at 10:41 pm

      I actually thought of one more similarity between Friends and How I Met Your Mother… the actress who played Natalie (the girl Ted dumped on her birthday, twice) also played a women named Precious in Friends who was dumped on her birthday too.

    98. Monday, December 10th, 2012 02:00 pm GMT -4 at 2:00 pm

      Hi guys. I found another Android app that is almost as awesome as your facebook site.
      It’s the Barney Stinson Soundboard, you can find it here:
      I thought that might interest you and other Barney fans.
      You probably want to publicly post that to spread the awesomeness or sth :D

    99. Tuesday, December 11th, 2012 10:24 am GMT -4 at 10:24 am

      There are so many things to say about the show.
      For those who have not watched the episode yet I am going to beat around the bush and let the review fill in the details.

      The Parent thing at the end…

      Patrice and Barney on the balcony…

      One thing I will say of all the places Lily could find to quietly do her thing… Talk about being watched!! Everyone forgot. I bet we see a remote Phone App.

      Anyway this was DE-Lightful!!

      We are going to have so many flash backs to this episode soon. She is totally in on it.

    100. Tuesday, December 11th, 2012 10:33 am GMT -4 at 10:33 am

      Oh I forgot, This episode gets an A-. It was not a Mother episode but To begin, they did this live Narration from the Bar. It was one of the better ones. Ted briefly explained the Ex girlfriend thing that fit the Show title, and then the writers brought everything together. It was a very good setup. You could easily follow the theme of the episode.

    101. Tuesday, December 11th, 2012 11:01 am GMT -4 at 11:01 am

      What was Good: Damn near everything, to be honest. I REALLY liked this episode. I get the sense there’s a lot I missed, though. The individual gags were great. Also liked Stewart’s return. And I think either Ross or dolf called it that he’d be back. I guess they couldn’t schedule Claudia, though. The Robin intervention.

      What was so-so: I’m not a fan of the “family with benefits” thing. That was a little weird/creepy. I hope that doesn’t become some longer-term thing and it’s just a one-off. The Ted lending stuff thing was not quite as good as the rest, though.

      Overall review:

      This was the series at its best, in my opinion. Or at least one of the things it does best: a true ensemble episode. Nothing felt too heavily focused-on, but there was still a through-line. Everyone got to have a few funny moments, and the characters didn’t seem to be completely out of place or too “sit-commy.” The only exception to that is Robin’s screaming at Patrice, but that fits to me, actually.

      The thing with Judy and Mickey…yeah, that was creepy. Although I loved the reveal of Marshall smiling, only to realize he’s wearing his son in the sling and turning to do that reveal. That was great. Marshall hiding in the closet was good, too. As much as I felt that the Ted’s-borrowed-stuff thing was the weakest bit in this episode, that’s weakest in an otherwise terrific episode, and it all worked well together. The sight gags were great for that as well, particularly Mickey wearing Ted’s sweatshirt. Yeah, Ted, you don’t want that one back. >involuntary shudder<

      Stuart's reappearance was a nice touch too, without being overdone. Nice that he and Claudia haven't killed each other yet, either. They always seemed a bit touch-and-go to me…

      Anyway, on to the main event: Robin, Barney, and Patrice. I'm REALLY liking this storyline. It's a bit telegraphed, but I'm ok with that. This is TOTALLY a play, but it's the ultimate play, and it's heartfelt. My only question is whether the rest of the gang is in on it. And on that, I'm not sure. But Patrice? Absofreakinlutely she's in on it. Now, I don't think Barney knew everyone was in the apartment. That's a stretch. Well, at least not until The Playbook was found. That must've tipped him off. So, I don't think that most of the stuff he was doing was for their benefit as his audience. Unless it's explained by him having some "The Inner Sanctum Has Been Breached" app on his phone…which I suppose he might, come to think of it…

      But anyway, yeah, Patrice is doing this and she's doing it for Robin. You know that Robin and Patrice BFFs thing? That, I think, may have set this in motion. It implants in Patrice's mind that she and Robin are best buds. And now she's on board with doing something in Robin's interest because she sees Barney as a really sweet guy. Which he is, when he's not being evil. So, the reveal of the Playbook and Patrice seeming bothered by it makes sense. She's thinking that Barney's just trying to hop in the sack with Robin, until Barney explains it.

      As for Robin herself…I really like how she's losing it re: Barney, and I REALLY like that the gang called her on it. The Intervention thing was great for that. As was the "Is this about my drinking?……Damn." gag.

      So, I'm looking forward to next week's episode. I think it's gonna be solid. Hopefully every bit as solid as this week's was.

      • Tuesday, December 11th, 2012 12:30 pm GMT -4 at 12:30 pm

        I can imagine the play book being destroyed because Barney does not need it anymore. Then again I also remember the box of Robin and Barney in storage. Barney may have actually burned up a copy of the original play book. He is a magic buff, and his audience was distracted. Did you love Ted and the girls peeking out of the closet.

        One thing that we need to talk about is the intervention!

    102. Tuesday, December 11th, 2012 02:24 pm GMT -4 at 2:24 pm

      I love that Suart showed in this episode!!! :)

      • Tuesday, December 11th, 2012 03:18 pm GMT -4 at 3:18 pm

        Yes Ted owes Stuart a big apology.

    103. Tuesday, December 11th, 2012 04:05 pm GMT -4 at 4:05 pm

      I’m sad that I’m not on the same page as all of you.

      I haven’t been reading spoilers and try actively to avoid them, but I guess until I see the reveal of this being a play to get Robin, I don’t know if I can believe. That’s where I’m at with the show right now. I’ve lost some faith, and if this turns out to be an extended play, I can get on board with that.

      The whole parent thing is just too sitcommy for me and they’ve already done plenty of parents hooking up stuff (Ted’s dad, Ted’s mom, the way Barney’s mom was portrayed at times). Unless there is some big mega joke about the gang’s parents sex lives and Ted sharing all of their with his kids, I don’t see the appeal.

      And Ted is enough of a douche to label everything, but we’ve never, ever seen it before

    104. Tuesday, December 11th, 2012 04:46 pm GMT -4 at 4:46 pm

      Regarding the continuity issues – I tend to think that this is done intentionally. This is a retelling many years in the future. It’s not out of the realm of possibility for Ted to forget in what order minor details occurred – like Robin realizing her aunt was gay, etc.
      This could also explain some of the caricature-type representations used in the telling of these stories by Ted.
      I thought this week’s episode was funny and I liked the Ted lending stuff bit. It was funny to see the items popping up – and labeled. Then when he found his label maker…I was cracking up!

    105. Tuesday, December 11th, 2012 08:02 pm GMT -4 at 8:02 pm

      Has Jordan discontinued the episode recaps?

      • Wednesday, December 12th, 2012 01:18 am GMT -4 at 1:18 am

        as far as i know, he is just on hiatus :)

      • Wednesday, December 12th, 2012 12:20 pm GMT -4 at 12:20 pm

        Jordan was in Europe and he proposed to his girlfriend in Paris. He has a show the http://www.sensitiveniceguy.com/ and you can hear about it there. He should be back with us soon.

    106. Tuesday, December 11th, 2012 08:18 pm GMT -4 at 8:18 pm

      I loved this episode, and Solo’s idea regarding Patrice being angry about the playbook. I’ll admit, as this episode continued I got less and less confident about the idea that this was all a play… however, everyone’s ideas have reinforced that idea, so I still do believe it’s a play by Barney. I also agree with the idea that Barney might have seen Robin/Lily/Ted all sneak into his apartment from his video cameras. I thought this episode was really funny and kept my interest the entire time, though the story with Marshall and Lily’s parents was a little creepy. I really want to see them end that relationship asap. I’m curious to see next week how in depth Barney’s play was, how many flashbacks we’ll get to this episode and the previous one, and what Barney’s exact purpose was behind telling Robin that everyone deserves to be happy… he was trying to make her feel guilty, but I don’t really see how that helps the play along much.

      Last but not least, one of my favorite things in this episode was the fact that Barney’s tree was decorated with red and green ties! Barney’s a real bro during the holidays (Legen-wait for it-
      Merry was awesome too).

      P.S. Was anyone else a little surprised to find out Robin didn’t have her own pocket knife? She seems like the most likely to have one of her own out of the whole group haha just saying…

      • Tuesday, December 11th, 2012 11:57 pm GMT -4 at 11:57 pm

        Robin like Barney and Lily all have daddy issues. They all look to Ted as someone safe to borrow from. Robin always runs back to Ted if she feels in-secure.

        Do you remember when Robin’s Dad gave her a knife and kicked her out of the helicopter? So she would go to Ted to borrow a pocket knife.

        To Continue:
        Lily also had issues with her Dad leaving her but sees Ted as always being there for her. That is why I think when she heard the taped phone call of Ted to Marshall (back when she went to her art school) she flipped out so bad.

        Ted like Lily’s Dad betrayed her and then she took all the Christmas ornaments to her tiny apartment. Ted was man enough to realize his mistake and made things right again eventually. Lily more than Barney or Robin learned from Ted and Marshall how to trust again.

        Ted and Marshall had a friendship that went beyond anything the rest of them had experienced before. Ted and Lily talked about that with the first photo two college roommates. Ted let Lily into the group. He accepted her very early and earned her trust.

        Barney never had a Dad around so he takes advantage of Ted’s kindness. Ted is his only true friend through everything up through the betrayal with Robin. Even then when Ted was in the accident Barney could not stay away from Ted.

        Ted always treats Robin as his little girl to protect since they broke up the first time. Except for the Friends with Benefits time she was more someone to take care of then date. Just like when he spent hours decorating the apartment last Christmas when Robin found out she could not have children ever.
        Yes Ted could hardly talk to his dad about anything other than sports (specifically baseball) but he did grow up in a home with a mom and a dad like Marshall. I could go on but enough of the Psychology analysis.

        Lily showing the girls in Barney’s apartment is outside reality. She lived there for a few weeks and knows about the cameras. The writers just had to ignore this fact to get Lily Robin and finally Ted in Barney’s apartment quickly.

        Why did I go into all this again. Basically if Barney and Robin come together again they will need to settle some things internally first. I think one reason people get divorced so often anymore is about the Parental examples.

        Barney and Robin have for most of their lives have had to be on their own and do not easily trust others. Now that Barney has seen that some can find happiness together, long term, he has hope (redemtion for himself).

        Barney’s Dad said he was very broken but found the right person at the right time. Barney’s brother settled down and we already know about Marshall and Lily.

        Now we have to see if Robin can find her inner peace. I feel that is what this season has been about so far. I do not know where the writers are drawing there inspiration from, but think next week’s Monday the 17th show will answer many of my questions this year.

        • Wednesday, December 12th, 2012 01:32 am GMT -4 at 1:32 am

          Bravo Ross! You were bang on..

          I think Even Barney realized he has trust issues during Pre-nup episode which was not dealt well but for him Robin is the only person trust-worthy and we have already known how he feels about her through out the sixth season. May be now they are trying to show Robin’s characters basic flaws and address them and hopefully resolve them by the marriage time…

    107. Wednesday, December 12th, 2012 02:48 pm GMT -4 at 2:48 pm

      You know, internet does exist outside the US, so not buying the ‘I’m out of the country crap’ :p

      • Friday, December 14th, 2012 12:23 pm GMT -4 at 12:23 pm

        Did you watch the 12-12-12 concert? What did you think of Bon Jovi?

    108. Tuesday, December 18th, 2012 08:06 am GMT -4 at 8:06 am

      The Robin…. you were right :) I would never think of that, you re all sure genious xD

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