• Season 8, Episodes 11-12: The Final Page

    by  • Tuesday, December 18th, 2012 06:38 pm GMT -4 • Episode Discussion, Season 8 • 176 Comments

    Hey everybody! Good news; we have our new columnist…er…two of’em actually. Big hand to our boys “Solo” and “Ross” (real names redacted at their request, up to you, fellas) who have kindly agreed to take the reigns. As I mentioned before, JD and I will occasionally chime in, and after the new year we will hook Solo and Ross up with profiles of their own. Anyway, enough of my yappin; Solo, take it away!



    What was good:  The fact that I was right.  I’m sorry, but I LOVE being right.  :)   Also, everything else.

    What was not as good:  I thought the Lily and Marshall missing Marvin thing was a teeny bit weak.  Outside of that……nothing.  Perfect pair of episodes.

    Further Thoughts: Wow.  I mean, I knew it was coming, but I still loved the execution.  And I’m glad Ted’s FINALLY moved on.  Pay up, Marshall.  And don’t you “Not yet” me, either, bud.

    But as far as Ted letting go of it…it was great.  I know this has come in stages, and I suspect we MAY still see some wistfulness on Ted’s part down the road.  But I’m hoping that it will be less about wanting Robin and more about wanting to finally be done with his quest.

    Really, though, I just loved the hell out of both episodes.  The first one where we see Proto-Ted, the architecture teacher (embodying “Those who can, do.  Those who can’t, teach.”  Which isn’t really true, but in this case it is.), and Seth Green’s appearance as that weird “friend” many have from their past were all great, but also dovetailed nicely into the next episode.

    For me, the second half of this episode is why I watch this show.  Lots of sitcoms bring the funny.  What little I’ve seen of The Big Bang Theory makes me chuckle now and then.  And both halves of the episode last night had moments where I laughed out loud (particularly some of the stuff with Ranjit).

    But what separates HIMYM from the rest is its heart, and this episode nailed that on multiple fronts.  First, the relationship with Marshall and Ted was just…terrific.  It feels genuine and heartfelt, even though I know they’re acting.  Second, the dynamic between Ted and Robin.

    It was great to see Ted FINALLY let go, and to also prove that, at least some of the time, he knows Robin better than she knows herself.  Third, the dynamic between Barney and Robin.  Yes, it was rushed, but at the same time, it felt like it really fit to me.  You know it’s gonna be a bumpy road forward (for at least the next 6-ish episodes, if not the remainder of the season), but while these two are idiots at times, they do genuinely love each other and are right for each other.

    Lastly…Ted.  Ted alone.  The last man standing.  And the image of Ted staring out over the Manhattan skyline, at the top of the building he created…and STILL feeling like “It’s just a building,” to me that was one of the most powerful images this show has created, particularly when juxtaposed against the happiness of Marshall and Lily, but also now Barney and Robin.

    So, sure, he built a building, but for Ted, for a guy like him, that’s really not all that meaningful.  The thing from which he’ll derive the most meaning in his life has yet to begin.  And that moment was captured perfectly by that image.

    I’ll add some more thoughts/speculation later (a little ways down the road(tm)) about where we’re headed, but for now, like I said: this episode is why I watch this show.


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    176 Responses to Season 8, Episodes 11-12: The Final Page

    1. Tuesday, December 18th, 2012 08:19 pm GMT -4 at 8:19 pm

      First of all, congrats to Solo and Ross (: I always love reading your comments.

      Now, getting to the episodes, I too loved them both. Though you said before that we were all right (those who believed the final page was the Robin), I agree that I was just really excited to see how far back the play went/how much everyone knew about it. This final play really does show Barney’s mastermind, but it finally serves a bigger purpose than just for sleeping with women. I was nicely surprised to see it went all the way back to Splitsville and included the “drunken” kiss. Ted’s finally letting Robin go really tore my heart out, and it reminds that no matter how much the show focuses on LAME with Marvin or Barney and Robin’s crazy relationship, Ted is still essential to the group.

      I won’t really comment on much else of the episode (like the LAME storyline or Ted’s first story with his professor) just because I feel it was covered well in the review and I liked them both, didn’t have any real complaints. I loved the jinx, the callback to Barney getting hit by a bus (once the playback started I kept thinking ‘man those clothes look familiar!’ haha) was also well done and kind of reminds the audience in an indirect way the real beginning of Barney/Robin since he realizes he loves her then… The pit was good too, loved seeing Ted especially realize what’s best for him.

      Okay now I’ve been rambling haha but to me, the best part of the episode was the proposal (it was what I was most excited about as an avid BRo shipper) but everything else about it was awesome. Ted has been such an amazing friend and now all I can say is that it is high time he deserves to meet the mother (I was half expecting her to be at his party). Ted has waited long enough and he’s certainly gone through his fair share of heartbreak. Now that him and Robin are really really over, we can prepare for the mother! (:

    2. Tuesday, December 18th, 2012 08:19 pm GMT -4 at 8:19 pm

      The RoBarn arc has been played masterfully. And these eps are jn the very top together with Drumroll (Ted meeting Victory first time), the Season 3 Robin Sparkles Sandcastles in the Sand ep (where Barney and Robin kissed/banged the first time) and Season 4 Last ep The Leap and season 5 opening ep where RoBarn got hooked up with each other.
      That’s really all i want to say.
      Except, I wonder, is/was YM at the building? It was kind of hinted at. Maybe we’ll see her already in the next ep.

    3. Tuesday, December 18th, 2012 08:22 pm GMT -4 at 8:22 pm

      And really great on Solo and Ross. Keep it up.

    4. Tuesday, December 18th, 2012 08:56 pm GMT -4 at 8:56 pm

      I am at the Nutcracker for the first time in my life. My daughter is in the play. It is intermission so I had to take a look at Solo’s first official episode recap after Jordan got it formatted and uploaded to the web site.

      Personally Solo is Ted right now in his life and I am Narrator Ted with a Teenage Daughter 16 and Son 14. So hopefully we can, with your help, make this work. Jordan and JD have invested many years in this blog and our lives. We acknowledge the great job they have done. Thank you both.

    5. Wednesday, December 19th, 2012 02:43 am GMT -4 at 2:43 am

      how the hell did this happen?
      i know that both of them were pretty obvious in showing the signs of getting hooked up in the end (from the first time towards the end of the 4th season), but this is just something that i, as a viewer, find hard to believe. I mean, everybody saw the awesome chemistry between robin and ted in season 1. and then the season 2. and after that shortly for a while in the 7th. I know this definitely happens to be a really long shot, but a little part of me will always believe that somehow, robin and ted will end up together in the end (even though pretty strong evidences exist that she’s NOT the mother.). RoBarn is not as Ted-Robin. Listen to my pleas, Carter Bayes and Craig Thomas… ;’(

      • Wednesday, December 19th, 2012 12:34 pm GMT -4 at 12:34 pm

        This is actually an issue that comes up not infrequently around here, so I think it’s important to address it. The writers have said that they intended to put Barney and Robin together as early as something like Season 4 or 5. Personally, I think you can spot signs of it as early as Season 1. Remember when Robin suited up and went out on the town with Barney, confessing her love of cigars and scotch? I think it goes back to even then. They’ve played with them as an on-again, off-again couple for a while.

        Now, as far as Ted’s involvement with Robin and their chemistry, that’s pretty important, too. One of the reasons — if not THE reason — why I think this show resonates with so many people is that it represents something that many of us experience in one way or another. Ted’s experience is, I think, not actually all that unusual in broad strokes. Not everyone’s gone through everything he has, but everyone’s gone through SOME of what he has. One of those things is finding someone who seems to fit all your “checklist” criteria, with whom you have great chemistry, but whom is ultimately wrong for you because of some fundamental issue. Sometimes it’s bad timing, sometimes it’s your lives going in different directions. Personally, I think the end of Season 2 encapsulated why Ted and Robin are wrong: they ALWAYS — at least as a romantic couple — had a shelf life. Ted wants kids. Robin doesn’t (even when she wanted to have the option). That’s about as fundamental a dealbreaker as you can get. So, much as they care for each other, and as good as they are together in some sense…they’re wrong for each other in a FAR more fundamental sense and in ways that WILL. NOT. CHANGE.

        Robin and Barney, however, are similar. They’re both BIG personalities, they’re both sort of “alphas” whereas Ted isn’t, exactly. Ted’s got personality. Don’t get me wrong, but he’s not “big.” That’s why the “Teddy Westside” thing is funny: because it’s so counter to who he is. When Barney refers to himself as “The Barnacle” or some other name, people laugh, but not because it’s so absurd for the character. Robin is similarly “big” as a personality, if not in the over-the-top absurd way. She’s gorgeous, she’s incredibly driven, she’s really bright, she’s also kind of a “guy’s girl.” And she’s Barney’s perfect wingman. So, I think that side of their personalities meshes really well.

        However, there’s another side that, I think, makes them really really good for each other: they’re both wounded, in a sense. Ted’s got his issues, but in many ways, Ted’s more of a “rock.” A solid dude who, while he blunders, we all know is ultimately going to turn out fine. Even if we lacked the 20/20 hindsight of Future Ted, and had zero narration at all, I don’t think anyone would find it a stretch that Ted ultimately settles down, starts a family, and lives a happy domestic life. Robin and Barney, though, are very different. It’s VERY easy to imagine how they’d ultimately be alone, and because of their own demons. That’s a big part of what drove them apart back in Season 5 — they were both too terrified to really commit and largely because of damage they’d suffered as kids when it comes to trusting people and being willing to make themselves vulnerable in love. Ted’s the total opposite — he’s almost TOO eager to let himself get hurt, and he’s had to toughen up some on his journey as a result.

        But ultimately, I think the mutual damage that Barney and Robin have is what lets them instinctively love each other. Barney’s comment to Robin back in Season 7 when she asked why he wanted to be with her sums it up: “Because you’re almost as screwed up as I am.” At the time, many thought it was an awful answer, but what I think folks missed at the time was the unspoken part of that sentence: “…and I don’t care. I love you anyway for who you are.” Barney doesn’t want to change Robin. He doesn’t want to fix her, solve her problems, bring her around to his way of thinking, etc. Barney has ALWAYS accepted Robin for who she is and loved her for it. That was never true with Ted, even in the moment in Season 7 where he said he could be with her and give up kids. That wasn’t honest of Ted. He was acting out of loneliness, and Robin — to her credit — knew it. Ultimately, Barney can be happy with Robin exactly as he finds her on any given day. Ted? Not so much. There’d always be a part of him that’d want something more, something different. He’d always feel like he gave something up to be with Robin (namely kids). The only thing Barney gave up was sleeping with bimbos and he did that happily.

        • Wednesday, December 19th, 2012 03:35 pm GMT -4 at 3:35 pm

          The episode where robin is Barney’s wingman where they play later tag and drink scotch and she suited up is still one of my favorite episodes ever. That episode is when I first started to ship the two of them.

        • Wednesday, December 19th, 2012 04:43 pm GMT -4 at 4:43 pm

          Solo, Ted is Rock Solid and as many of us have said in previous episodes, that is the reason the gang is together. That is why Ted and Robin will always be friends. She needs him as a Father more than a lover. The reason we have an Aunt Robin is clear to me. KIDS let me tell you about Aunt Robin/Uncle Barney. This is the reason I met your mother. This is the reason Aunt Robin is so close to you. We are a big Family. Yes it is strange that Ted will in the future have his kids so close to a former Lover. But these actors are showing more than sexual connections. In that Limo it was true unselfish Love.

          Just to bring up a real life messy scene: Charlie Sheen’s kids with Brooke Mueller his last X have twice lived with Charlie’s previous X Denise Richards. Mueller had her mother get them recently over a disagreement but this still applies. That is messed up, but we tend to go with what is familiar.

          Ted and Robin became friends again after Marvin’s birth because they have a strong history. Ted stayed friends with Robin and the group over Victoria because in his mind she wanted him to give up his FAMILY. In that episode Victoria Marshal and Lily all said you pick up right where you left off. Ted said the relationship started over. What they really showed was Victoria new Ted but Ted never invested in Victoria. Ted never invested in any woman (minus Lily’s obvious older friendship) other that Robin up to this point.

          Barney knows this from the Robin class that Ted taught. Ted will always be invested in Robin to some extent. But what I do not understand yet is why is Marshall not giving up on Robin and Ted. Solo mentioned the bet and that Marshall should pay up to Lily. Something has to happen yet and I am not sure if I like it.

          I have a best friend that I lost touch with for many years. When he came back into the area it was easy to be friends again, just like we had never been apart. My family let him right into their lives. He is an Uncle to my kids without a second thought, just like Robin is Aunt to Ted’s Kids. I get that part. Obviously so does Ted’s future wife so I just go with it.

          hope my thoughts came through on this one

        • Thursday, December 20th, 2012 06:05 pm GMT -4 at 6:05 pm

          great insight and soo true..as always

        • Jo
          Wednesday, January 2nd, 2013 06:37 pm GMT -4 at 6:37 pm

          Robin was Ted’s first love. I don’t think you ever really give up on your first love. A part of you always hangs on to something there, even if the feelings themselves have passed. I truly don’t believe ex-lovers can be friends, it’s too difficult, and there’s too much baggage. Ted and Robin’s “friendship” was founded on Ted’s hope of ultimately being with her one day. He’s lying to himself if he doesn’t admit that. It’s so rare, such a dynamic would exist between ex-lovers without one or both still harboring feelings. Victoria knew this, and that’s why she could never trust Ted fully. If the Mother is so selfless, to accept it, then I guess that makes her better than all of us; but truthfully, how many of us can say we’d be OK with our husbands/wives being that close to their first love?

          Barney and Robin are very similar. TOO similar. That’s the precise reason they shouldn’t be together. They are both damaged people, and damaged people don’t go on living happily ever after. I’ve been in relationships like that, and they always fight too much, and both parties end up hurt. There’s a reason they say opposites attract. Ted wasn’t trying to change Robin into something she’s not; if anything he was trying to change himself into something he’s not for her. But, what it was about, was trying to help her and find happiness, in spite of being damaged.

          I fail to understand why the writers would introduce her as such a central figure in the first episode if they never intended Ted and Robin to end up together. That’s like not having Ross and Rachel end up together, or JD and Eliot, or Derek and Meredith, or Steve Urkel and Laura, or George Clooney and the nurse chick in ER. why would the creaters play such a cruel joke on us?

          Also – doesn’t anyone wonder if they hate Ted? Why make him and LEAVE him so miserable for 8+ years? :(

    6. Wednesday, December 19th, 2012 02:57 am GMT -4 at 2:57 am

      I still think that Ted is telling his kids this story to justify why he is going to end up with Robin in his 40 ´s. Teh story begins with her and has to end up with her…. I don´t know if the mom is going to die or just get divorced form Ted… But I know that it doesn´t make sense to create theses characters, make them interact for 7 years and, in the end of the show, make the main character end up with an unknown woman!

    7. Wednesday, December 19th, 2012 03:26 am GMT -4 at 3:26 am

      That YM would be dead goes heavily against the grain of the show. It’s maybe not on par with her being raped and butchered by Jeffrey Dahmer, but … I think you get my point.
      A divorce and Ted getting rehooked up with Robin is just as unlikely. Nowhere during all the time has Ted given any hints to the relationship with YM ending badly, rather the contrary, he has time after time stressed the positive sides of meeting the mother and the happiness aspect of it. And the kids would have revelaed such a plot by their reactions during the story.

    8. Wednesday, December 19th, 2012 05:11 am GMT -4 at 5:11 am

      I love the proposal, I would never hope, it would be so good. Really, I lost faith long time ago, but the bumpy start of this season was clounded by this episode.

    9. Wednesday, December 19th, 2012 05:29 am GMT -4 at 5:29 am

      Ou, and I forgot… The yellow in Splittsville could mean also the begin of the play. And I really laugh because of the scene , when Barney and Patrice stay on the balcona. That was great xD

    10. Wednesday, December 19th, 2012 07:14 am GMT -4 at 7:14 am

      That proposal was really great, but barney’s proposal to quinn with the magic trick at the airport was far better

      • Wednesday, December 19th, 2012 11:05 am GMT -4 at 11:05 am

        I like this more… And I always hated the moment when Barney and Q. get engaged, because the first thing they did was a hug, and after that kiss.
        Another thing – the acting of NPH and Cobie was perfect.

      • Thursday, December 20th, 2012 06:10 pm GMT -4 at 6:10 pm

        while i can kind of see your point, i think they’re both so different and also cater to the personality of the woman he is proposing to.

        this fits robin better

    11. Wednesday, December 19th, 2012 07:39 am GMT -4 at 7:39 am

      I beg to differ. The airport proposal was very cute and was funnier, but it is not the funniness that makes HIMYM special, it’s the heart. And the last page has been built up over several episodes and executed with a romantic panache that is rare indeed in comedy.

    12. Wednesday, December 19th, 2012 11:04 am GMT -4 at 11:04 am

      First of all, the episode was very good, mainly the proposal.

      But I feel that that sitcom rules go against friendship rules. I mean, if you are supposed to be Ted’s friend you can not ruin his day. You have to clean your agenda and for this special day, he is the only star. Do you want to propose to a girl? OK, but just wait another day. Robin was right when she said this was Ted’s day. I would have not done it.

      About Solo’s comment concerning the image of Ted staring out over the Manhattan skyline, I have to make a point. I guess he is thinking “Today I am at the peak of my professional career, and today I have let go the girl who has been my love for eight years. It is my best job’s day, but I have lost the war I wanted to win”.

      The car scene was not Bogart’s in Casablanca, but it was really good (superb acting by CS and JR). One can wonder if it has been the opposite (I mean, Barney in the car, Ted in the roof) what would have Barney done.

      BTW, as a final thought, it was episode 11, too early, so I really think this is the final season.

      • Wednesday, December 19th, 2012 12:42 pm GMT -4 at 12:42 pm

        I think part of Barney’s plan in proposing on that day was that it was a perfect final test to see if Ted really is giving his blessing to you. If Ted can walk away from Robin in a moment where he knows he’s at least got a serious chance of making some headway, then you know he’s really done. That’s why it was timed as it was.

        The beauty of the final shot with Ted is that, while we can imagine different specific sentences he’d be thinking, the imagery really just conveys the emotion of the moment. He’s alone. He’s conflicted. He isn’t satisfied, even though he’s standing atop this monument to his own creativity and professional drive. I think, in that sense, it says all of what you suggest, and more. It’s a brilliant scene and a brilliant closing shot.

      • Thursday, December 20th, 2012 06:15 pm GMT -4 at 6:15 pm

        once again i agree. Barney should have proposed the day before/after but not the day OF, but then i guess Robin would not have been dressed up in that beautiful gown and the audience would not have had the same classy “look”.

        however, even if this WAS a test of Barney’s to Ted…i’m still thinking its kinda selfish

    13. Wednesday, December 19th, 2012 12:00 pm GMT -4 at 12:00 pm

      Brilliant episode of HIMYM! I felt that was a perfect finish for the first half of the season as all of Ted’s past has finally been wrapped up (Robin and Victoria) and he can now fully move on as he has peace of mind. Marshal and Lily’s lullaby was marvellous and they got the musical instruments just right. On a side note Marshall looks supper skinny these days.

      • Wednesday, December 19th, 2012 03:39 pm GMT -4 at 3:39 pm

        Jason Segel is very skinny nowadays and I think that’s because he finally found love and is happy in his personal life.

    14. Wednesday, December 19th, 2012 12:40 pm GMT -4 at 12:40 pm

      I was really touched by how Barney made it work so that Ted would have to be the one to make it all happen, as that would mean, as he said “that your best bro had given approval.” Barney only wanted this to work if Ted was OK with it and able to let Robin go. If he wasn’t able to do that, the entire engagment would not have happened. I think it speaks VOLUMES about Barney’s loyalty and Ted & Barney’s relationship. That was the part that made me tear a little — I love a good bro-mance :)

      • Wednesday, December 19th, 2012 04:52 pm GMT -4 at 4:52 pm

        Nice reference to bro-mance. When you talk about Barney/Robin/Ted they all have a friendship so bro/romance is appropriate.

      • Lee
        Wednesday, January 2nd, 2013 06:50 pm GMT -4 at 6:50 pm

        in the episode with the exploding meatball, when Barney pretends to be ill and dying, Robin is not wearing a wedding ring.

    15. Wednesday, December 19th, 2012 12:47 pm GMT -4 at 12:47 pm

      They asked Marshall to trim down for flash backs but I agree, he also noticed in the close ups at the table he looked very thin.

      Before I forget just downloaded via I-Pod the song Let Your Heart Hold Fast by Fort Atlantic. This was the song at the end of Episode 12 on the roof.

      I am still unsure about this episode. I liked it. It was very good. There was a lot of non verbal information that was brought to this show. Not sure if it was all from the writers/directors. January is going to come very quickly. That will be the turning point for the show. This was a BIG Episode. I was just typing about the above comment Season 8 or 9 Ending the Series.

      All of your comments are very thoughtful. Again, we are going to be pleased with the upcoming episodes. Please Keep this part of the blog spoiler free. We may end up adding some pages to the web site for those who want to take the discussion more into the future in 2013. I would also like to add a Section on the songs used in the Episodes. Great thoughts everyone

      • Wednesday, December 19th, 2012 01:01 pm GMT -4 at 1:01 pm

        Congratulation to you and Solo. I have no doubt you will do justice to this blog. I like many others look forward to and enjoy reading your comments.

    16. Wednesday, December 19th, 2012 01:58 pm GMT -4 at 1:58 pm

      Great double meaning from the man introducing Ted “And none of this could have happened without Ted.” And it’s true.

      Every story line, at its core, is Ted. He was the voice of reason persuading Marshall to follow his feelings about Lily, he is the reason Barney entered the group, the reason Robin entered the group, and is now the reason Barney and Robin are a couple.

      And it seems that right now his reward is to be alone but we all see what he doesn’t… the real reward is he gets to finally move on to the next stage of his life. We see it even when it’s so obvious he only sees opportunity lost (so well done by that wistful look out the window).

      This show really does nail down the history and feelings between these characters like no other. By the end of the second episode we were applauding. Watched it again last night and still got misty.

      I really don’t know any other sitcom that can accomplish the humor AND heart at this level.

      Oh HIYMYM, I’m so gonna miss you when your time comes up!

    17. Wednesday, December 19th, 2012 01:59 pm GMT -4 at 1:59 pm

      And I have to say the line where Barney said “and really burn up the book, you won’t need it anymore.” had us in tears :-)

      • Wednesday, December 19th, 2012 04:46 pm GMT -4 at 4:46 pm

        that was a great moment, and i’ve never been a robarn shipper!

    18. eva
      Wednesday, December 19th, 2012 02:12 pm GMT -4 at 2:12 pm

      i think ted went a bit overboard with his teacher, so what if one teacher doesn’t like your building, it doesn’t mean anything, there are always ppl who love something that other ppl hate.

      robin looked great in that dress.

      • Thursday, December 20th, 2012 11:01 am GMT -4 at 11:01 am

        EVA you should go and grab the gravatar from Wall-E. The Ted kid in me. I know you could use an actress named EVA etc. but when I saw your post I just thought of the Pixar movie.

        Yes the dress on Robin was perrrrfect. So now we know Ted’s Father figure… His old Teacher. I really liked the Pit thing in the episode. It was so true. We all in the end tend to put ourself in a Pit of despair at some point in our lives. That is why the song at the end really spoke to me.

        For those that are interested. Here is his story.

    19. luk
      Wednesday, December 19th, 2012 03:07 pm GMT -4 at 3:07 pm

      just because i will want to say i told you so in the future……………………………………….. i still belive that the TED and ROBIN thing is not over. and he did not let go he just respects her and loves her that much. he had to tell her……..!!!!!!!! with that been said i will see you again for the i told you show part.

    20. Wednesday, December 19th, 2012 03:32 pm GMT -4 at 3:32 pm

      Great episodes! Loved them both very much. The first episode had a lot of the silly humor of this show during the first seasons. Jinxed Barney mouthing stories had me rolling. And we got not one but TWO brand new original songs! Loved Ted’s song about his prof but I adored Marshall and Lily’s bedtime song to Marvin. Also I’m not a fan of babies but little Marvin has got to be the cutest tv baby ever!

    21. Thursday, December 20th, 2012 12:58 am GMT -4 at 12:58 am

      Ok I said that if the last several episodes were Barney’s play to get Robin I would take back many of the negative things I said. So I’m here to do that. I thought the payoff made it worth it.

      That being said, not everyone was right about everything and the writers even give a nod to that. Patrice asking why Ted and Lily are in the apartment shows that clearly only Barney and Patrice were in on the play and that the rest of the gang wasn’t, so while I’m glad you all were right about it being a play, it wasn’t a play the group was willingly in the know about.

      Ted getting back into it with the professor after his epiphany fits with some HIMYM humor, but the Ted fan in me (and the Ted in me) feels like it takes away a little from his growth. I realize I’m really nit-picking here, but I tend to over analyze everything.

      I loved the proposal and the flashbacks to each of the steps. Ranjit being around was awesome too. I’m optimistic for the show again.

      It was nice to have movement for Ted. I was worried they were going to make him hit bottom before he meets the mother, so I really like that his growth came from a low and a high. He’s reminded someone didn’t think he would be an architect and then has that dream fulfilled, but “it is just a building.” We are starting to see how the past seasons link together. I am hoping I can continue with the positive comments for the rest of the season and series.

    22. Thursday, December 20th, 2012 12:42 pm GMT -4 at 12:42 pm

      Folks — someone told me yesterday that they read an interview with Jason (marshall) that if there is a season next year, he will not be joining. Is this true???

      • Thursday, December 20th, 2012 12:46 pm GMT -4 at 12:46 pm

        I don’t think so, no. I haven’t seen that, myself. It’s REALLY important to check the dates on these articles, for one thing. For a while there was nothing but stuff from September during the Season 8 premiere. Then I started seeing info pop up around the end of November/first week of December. But since then, it’s pretty much just been “we’re in negotiations. We’ll have something to report by mid-January at the latest.”

        I saw one piece that said Segal was “unlikely” to return, but I wouldn’t necessarily take that as the gospel truth. It could just be sharp negotiating. They won’t do another season without him, though. Either everyone is on board, or nobody is on board.

      • Monday, December 31st, 2012 06:33 am GMT -4 at 6:33 am

        Yes-It’s true :(

    23. Thursday, December 20th, 2012 03:44 pm GMT -4 at 3:44 pm

      Loved the episodes. There were a few gimmicky moments like looking into the screen and screaming (i hate stuff like that) but overall it was vintage HIMYM: marshall and ted in the bar, ted and robyn in the cab, the play … all things well done.

      This episode made me feel like this is really going to be the last season. The writers have always found ways to throw curve balls and drag things out as long as possible or come up with something no one was expecting, but this time is was pretty obvious.

      I’m really starting to feel like the mother reveal is going to be a “see face, fade to black, photo montage with voice over” kind of moment. At best, the wedding is the second to last episode where the end of the episode and ends with seeing her face and the series finale is a payoff to loyal fans where he calls her the next day and takes her to dinner and gets to make his “shellfish” joke.

    24. Thursday, December 20th, 2012 06:28 pm GMT -4 at 6:28 pm

      i adored this episode. not much left to say but i had tears in my eyes. both for the proposal and for Ted letting Robin go and Barney caring enough about Ted to let that be Ted’s decision.

      can’t wait for more
      ps: baby Marvin is addooorable

      • Sunday, December 23rd, 2012 06:07 pm GMT -4 at 6:07 pm

        I agree, I teared up a couple times, even after watching them several times now. That proposal was executed to perfection for the way this show feels! ALSO, Marvin’s Bedtime song??!! Was that not the BEST song ever?? The singing and Lilly adding the sfx…it was perfect!! Maybe because I’m a parent I loved it so much but these last 2 episodes have been so damn good!

    25. Thursday, December 20th, 2012 07:21 pm GMT -4 at 7:21 pm

      Ok, so, I promised a few future predictions, as I tend to do, so here they are.

      I think that for the next 4-6 episodes, we’ll see the run-up to the Stinson/Scherbatsky wedding. I will not yet hazard a guess as to whether Robin takes Barney’s last name. I THINK we’ve covered all of Robin’s travels thus far that Future Ted alluded to, though. If not, maybe that’ll be a monkeywrench in the plans for the impending nuptuals.

      What I’m unsure of, though, is how the Mother will be introduced. I could see where they might soft-pedal this so that the introduction happens only at the end, or we only get like 2 episodes with the Mother and a montage at the end.

      I would hope we wouldn’t get the montage, though. I’d rather get to know this woman that Ted’s been searching for, and get to watch their romance flourish. I have no doubt, though, that we’ll end up thinking she’s terrific for him and loving who they cast in the role. And I doubt it’ll be a case of stunt casting either.

      Think about it. For all the women we’ve seen Ted interact with, has anyone here ever hated anyone we were “supposed” to like? I don’t think we were “supposed” to like Stella (although she was cool before she broke Ted’s heart). And we DEFINITELY weren’t supposed to like Zoey (although I got why Ted liked her). Every other woman we’ve been “supposed” to like we liked fine. some of us may have soured on them in hindsight, particularly once we learned they weren’t the mother (e.g., Victoria), but by and large, the writers KNOW how to write a loveable character. And the casting folks KNOW how to cast them. So, I’m pretty confident that we’ll be fine.

      At this point, I think the season will be largely centered on Barney and Robin…and the impact that has on Ted. We’ll see more of that, I hope. More of the wistfulness, more of the frustration-mixed-with-joy, and more of Ted feeling that the world is moving on while he’s still stuck. Certainly, I HOPE they play with that quite a bit. This should be BIG. Ted’s last two single best friends are getting married…to each other. And while he loves them both and is happy for them…he’s on his own now.

      In that sense, I think we’ll see several episodes of Ted being an IDIOT in true Ted fashion. (Yes, maybe that’ll mean a return of the tattoo girl.) But mostly, I think that’ll be Ted kinda searching for something better or being lost in a moment of (hopefully transitory) despair.

      Marshall and Lily, I think, will continue to represent “The couple with kids” although I don’t see a ton changing for them. I hope they use them to less broad comic effect and bring them a bit more down to earth. Lily’s relationship with Robin, for example, would be great. Hell, Marshall’s relationship with Robin would be great to see more of.

      One thing I will absolutely go on record predicting, though, is that Barney WILL finally see Lily’s boobs….on the video of her pumping that he will discover. Maybe his initial gleeful response to that will be a sticky wicket with him and Robin. That could make for a good episode, actually.

      Anyway, it’s gonna be a hell of a ride from here on out, I think. Personally, I’m REALLY hoping for a Season 9 where we get to know the Mother and see her relationship with Ted develop, but we’ll find out by mid-January on that, I think.

      • Friday, December 21st, 2012 03:40 am GMT -4 at 3:40 am

        I think we’ll see several episodes of Ted being an IDIOT in true Ted fashion. (Yes, maybe that’ll mean a return of the tattoo girl.)

        I guess that when you’re saying “the tattoo girl” you are referring to gorgeously and voluptuously wonderful Amy (she has name, you know) and I just wonder how that wold make Ted an Idiot? Me thinks our lawyer need to dust off his think machine, there must be a short somewhere.
        As concerns Barney seeing Lilly’s boobs, let me point out that that train already sailed [sic] last season with the ducky tie.
        The question that still remains: will he in a last flash of inspiration before finally sealing his fate with Robin run an impromptu play resulting in him honka-honka the aforementioned boobs?

        • Solo4114
          Friday, December 21st, 2012 10:04 am GMT -4 at 10:04 am

          First, how’d you quote? I MUST KNOW!!!

          Second, yeah, I forgot her name. I couldn’t remember if “Amy” was the name of the character or the actress. I think that would make Ted an idiot because Amy is so NOT the girl for Ted. Hot, sure, but not right for Ted.

          I’d actually forgotten about the Ducky Tie, but I still think he’ll discover the tape. Maybe he’ll give it back to Marshall without watching it the whole way through. I doubt he’ll try for a honka-honka, though.

        • Friday, December 21st, 2012 06:51 pm GMT -4 at 6:51 pm

          Now I can’t preview, so let’s see if it comes out right, you start the quote with <blockquote> and end it with </blockquote>

          I forgot her name. I couldn’t remember if “Amy” was the name …

          Seriously …. well, if you guys don’t want her, ship her over to me. I might be a swine, but I appreciate pearls.

          You might be right on the boobies tape et al, but he has seen them.

    26. Thursday, December 20th, 2012 09:10 pm GMT -4 at 9:10 pm

      I would of liked to have seen Arthur back.. maybe for one last time in that final awards/party scene shaking Ted’s hand. That would of made that scene even better.

      The CGI Snow/ fake snow did .. irritate me maybe a little. The disappearing snow more so! :) … maybe Im just irritated that in Aus and esp where I live we dont get snow.. ever. So yeah.. its just Jealousy.

      In regards to some posters above, We definetly wont see a Wedding this season if there is a Season 9. The wedding will be next season and they will have a longer engagement. Which I dont mind. It opens up a plethora of engagement hijinks .. which to be honest they never really got to do a lot with Marshall and Lily in that respect. They were almost an old married couple when the show started bar some key episodes.

      and I think… we are DUE A SLAP!….

    27. Thursday, December 20th, 2012 09:54 pm GMT -4 at 9:54 pm

      Does anyone really think this is the last play Barney will ever run? Last one to get himself a gal sure, but he has a nephew to teach, a single Ted to hook up, and can you imagine Barney and Robin running plays on the rest of the world, to get better deals on wedding stuff, to get Marvin into a top day care, or just for kicks?

      • Thursday, December 20th, 2012 10:38 pm GMT -4 at 10:38 pm

        @Proff You are correct in that, Barney and Robin will never give up playing games on others. I think Barney will never again use the Play Book to get random women to sleep with him (Coitus). That part of his life is over, like you said.

        I am watching The Big Bang Theory on DVD Season 3 and Sheldon is playing wing man to Raj at a College Mixer. That reminds me of Barney and his Rebound Wingman RANDY the Wharmpess Brewer. I am sure it was Season 6 Episode 7 titled “Canning Randy”.

        Barney: This slot is “Vice-President of Awesome”, and you’re like, “Assistant Under-Secretary of Only Okay”.

        But those are the kind of things an Engaged Barney may not be doing for Ted anymore. We will have to wait and see.

      • Friday, December 21st, 2012 10:02 am GMT -4 at 10:02 am

        Well, there are plays and there are plays. I think “The Playbook” was always Barney’s method for scoring with chicks. So, in that sense, yeah, the plays are done. If we mean long-term mischievous/diabolical cons, plots, and gambits…well, we already know Barney has one more up his sleeve at least (The Exploding Meatball Sub).

    28. Friday, December 21st, 2012 07:25 am GMT -4 at 7:25 am

      Well guys I appreciate all your views but…it’s not over…”Not Yet”…

      HIMYM is too good to “conclude” anything. And when you say ted’s moved on, I think it’s just another ride down – I think I’m right cuz he let robin go – lane…I think the story of RED (rED & Robin) is about to get a lot more deeper and serious…I just get the feeling they’re not over…8 years and you think they’re just gonna drop it? lol i think not…Sure barns proposed 2 her (which was without a doubt awesome!!) but that doesn’t mean they will end up together. After all, we saw robin flipping out and was having second thoughts on her wedding day when she called Ted – and that’s not just the nervous breakdown brides usually have, cuz it’s HIMYM, there’s definitely something else she’s all worked up about…I’m not making any conclusions, I just think that we got a long, long bridge to cross here, cuz we’ve come to it now…

      And I happen to scrutinize and write reviews on HIMYM episodes and predict future ones. So I’ll be writing one down here soon…

      • Friday, December 21st, 2012 10:00 am GMT -4 at 10:00 am

        I think it depends on what you mean by “are they done.” I think Ted’s really done with Robin. I think at this point that Ted really, truly is over Robin in a romantic sense. I actually think that ended last season when Ted said “We’re better as friends.” There was a moment in this past episode, but even then, Ted was questioning it. It’s almost like he does it out of habit now, and I think that actually sheds some light on what’s been motivating Ted in terms of Robin.

        It’s not Robin that he wants. Not really. Robin-as-she-is is not who Ted wants. But he really does want someone LIKE Robin, but tweaked somewhat — wanting kids, a little warmer, a little more open and in touch with her feelings, etc. But still with Robin’s wit, brains, looks, etc.

        I think what Ted’s been fixated on with regards to Robin is his IDEA of what COULD be with someone like her. What he’s been unable to let go of is the fantasy that Robin could be that person. I think he recognized last season that they’re better as friends.

        But that’s in the now. What I think he didn’t realize until the moment in the limo is that he’d already let go of the notion of some fantasy future with Robin. He’s finally separated “fantasy Robin” from “real Robin” in a sense, and it’s only in that moment that he finally realizes that that must’ve happened a while back.

        Now, Robin may still make a move on Ted, and there may be some tender moment where Ted rejects that, but I think we’re past the point where either character is acting out of an interest in the other character. Any relapses will be more about finding…solace. Escaping whatever fearful or painful thing is confronting them in the comfort that each of them offers the other. But that’s not the same thing as being hung up on the other person. There’s a difference between reaching for a security blanket and actually being interested in the person.

        That said, the writers have confirmed (and it’s not really a spoiler at this point) that Robin and Barney DO end up married. Frankly, I think that’s probably gonna mean they stay together. The notion of “They divorce and Ted ends up with her after the Mother gets abducted by aliens” is just fan shipping along the lines of “Harry will marry Hermione!”

        • Friday, December 21st, 2012 01:36 pm GMT -4 at 1:36 pm

          I see your point and agree partially. One of the writers (I don’t remember who, but it was one of them) said in an interview two things concerning the relationship between Ted and Robin.

          1) Robin and Barney do end up married.
          2) Robin was not the mother (he remarked that it was clear from the start of the show) but could be the step mother.

          Of course maybe he said so because of the fans, but it was quite absurd, specially when in season 8, ep 4, Victoria, after receiving Ted’s refusal to leave Robin, said to Ted “I really hope you get her someday”.

          Ted is still in love with Robin (season 8, ep 4), but he realizes she will not marry him, and this is why he made that move in the limo. Ted loves Robin so much that the best option is letting her go with his bro.

          I don’t know what Robin will do about Ted’s feelings, because she doesn’t know the reason why Ted broke with Victoria, but she will know (it was stated in ep 4).

          Anyway, for a question of simmetry, I would like a momment of Robin’s letting Ted go. I mean, she was the only one that asked Ted not marry Stella, so it could be nice that she could tell Ted , when he meets the mother, something like “she is the one, go for her”.

    29. Friday, December 21st, 2012 02:31 pm GMT -4 at 2:31 pm

      sorry, it was season 8, episode 5

      • Friday, December 21st, 2012 03:01 pm GMT -4 at 3:01 pm

        In answer to your Victoria quote… I hope Ted and Robin never get together. At this point it would be like dating your sister.

        • Sunday, December 23rd, 2012 02:08 pm GMT -4 at 2:08 pm

          I think the moment with Victoria where she says “I really hope you get her some day” is noteworthy for two reasons.

          First, it highlights Victoria’s own insanity re: Robin. Let’s be clear here. Any problems between Victoria and Ted during their second go-around were about Victoria and Ted being in different places then when they “paused” earlier. that is why Ted was right and you don’t “just unpause.” You’re different people at different places in your life. You have to get to know the other person again all over. In doing that, I think Ted recognized that Victoria wasn’t really right for him. His proposal to her was just him being desperate to be “done” and thinking he OUGHT to be with Victoria (rather than WANTING to be). So, that was a major factor in them breaking up.

          Second, Robin’s part in all of that was, I think, more as a vessel for Victoria’s insecurities. Again, I think she knew Ted isn’t the guy. She only ended up with him because she did her typical “run away” routine. Ted wasn’t the guy she wanted to spend her life with. He was a safe port in a storm. That’s it. So, I don’t think Victoria was ever really invested in Ted the second time around, and the thing with Robin was, ultimately, a convenient scapegoat rather than addressing her own lack of deep romantic love for Ted (as oopposed to platonic love).

          So, when Victoria says “I really hope you get her some day” I see it more as evidence of how hung up on Robin VICTORIA is. Ted’s not hung up on her. She’s a good friend. That’s all. Their past is the past and whatever overatures he’s made towards Robin in the meantime were really no different from how Victoria runs from her problems. He’s seeking solace in a familiar place — Robin — rather than actually wanting to BE with her.

          Lastly, you could read it as actually referring to a different “her.” Namely the “her” that Ted’s always dreamed of. That isn’t Robin. It isn’t Victoria. It’s someone nobody’s met in the show’s continuity yet. So, she’s really saying (although not really recognizing it in the moment) “I really hope you find what you want ultimately.”

    30. Friday, December 21st, 2012 05:58 pm GMT -4 at 5:58 pm

      random but has anyone noticed this…is this even real!? for the episode in which marshall’s dad dies


      • Friday, December 21st, 2012 06:17 pm GMT -4 at 6:17 pm

        The countdown was real. The analysis of the countdown was speculative.

        • Saturday, December 22nd, 2012 05:33 am GMT -4 at 5:33 am

          Thank you

    31. Friday, December 21st, 2012 09:23 pm GMT -4 at 9:23 pm

      What is the background music playing during “the robin”?

      • Friday, December 21st, 2012 10:16 pm GMT -4 at 10:16 pm

        It is from Fort_Atlantica Let Your Heart Hold Fast

    32. Friday, December 21st, 2012 11:06 pm GMT -4 at 11:06 pm

      There are some really good episodes coming this next year. I have been searching the Web looking for news about season 9 info and more news came out about Season 8 Episodes. AS THIS IS A SPOILER FREE BLOG, I will not post it here. Just letting you know things are going to get exciting. We will get answers to many questions.

      There have long been a number of mysteries pertaining to “How I Met Your Mother” for much of its eight seasons, but at the moment one of the biggest ones pertaining to things….

      The Creators and Writers have been letting some hints out. Some of our speculations over the years will soon be shown true or false. So what I am saying is we have waited this long just be patient a little while longer. Even if there is a season 9 we will get lots of answers in SEASON 8 to make this year worth it.

      KEEP GUESSING. I came to this site in the first place because of all the great ideas everyone types. That is the FUN part.

      • Friday, December 21st, 2012 11:32 pm GMT -4 at 11:32 pm

        Yeah, spoiler free, but… next time you could give some link ;)

    33. Friday, December 21st, 2012 11:35 pm GMT -4 at 11:35 pm

      Report: How I Met Your Mother Renewed for 9th Season After Jason Segel’s 11th-Hour Reversal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Saturday, December 22nd, 2012 03:14 am GMT -4 at 3:14 am

        Omg yessss!!!! Link please

        • Saturday, December 22nd, 2012 04:02 am GMT -4 at 4:02 am

          Look, more than one source! http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0063215/news

        • Saturday, December 22nd, 2012 05:32 am GMT -4 at 5:32 am

          Lol yes already went and read as much HIMYM literature as I could get my hands on.

    34. Saturday, December 22nd, 2012 07:48 am GMT -4 at 7:48 am

      YEAH!!!!! You made my day.
      Now the only thing that’s needed to spice up the stew and make it complete is the return of Amy and a bona fide serial killer to add a dark edge, and I am having my hopes up for the latter as they have been dropping hints with the pit and earlier in the series (the Rockettes girl), so now the only question remaining is will we get the murder or the mother first.
      In any case, I’ll think we’ll get it soon. I haven’t heard anything about the casting of YM, but I figure that she’s already been contracted and maybe even scenes been shot with her. So i would not be surprised if we get the mother introduced and we get two parallel arcs for the rest of the season, with seeing the mother before actually meeting Ted. And, though Ted says he met the mother at the day of a wedding, and it’s implied that that is their real first meeting, nowhere has anything been said about when the other four meet her for the first time, and nowhere has it been said that they meet her after Ted.

      • Saturday, December 22nd, 2012 01:55 pm GMT -4 at 1:55 pm

        wait…was that a joke about the serial killer!?!?! don’t mess with me

        • Saturday, December 22nd, 2012 02:17 pm GMT -4 at 2:17 pm

          Hiba, I never joke about serious things like serial killers. What kind of sicko do you take me for? :twisted:

        • Saturday, December 22nd, 2012 02:28 pm GMT -4 at 2:28 pm

          ahhh!!! seriously bro!! not nice :( i just finished finals and am still writing a paper…brain is mushy and naive!

        • Saturday, December 22nd, 2012 03:05 pm GMT -4 at 3:05 pm

          Sorry, can’t help it.
          But … haven’t you noticed that there’s already one sociopath in the show? Ted’s probably not been telling us about the skeletons and decomposing corpses in Barney’s closet for the simple reason that he doesn’t know about them. But are they going to get revealed? Maybe RoBarn goes on a spree like Natural Born Killers.

        • Saturday, December 22nd, 2012 04:19 pm GMT -4 at 4:19 pm

          omg, dolf, i totally see it!! wow you’re so a genius!! clearly the only reason barney has cameras everywhere and hidden nooks and crannies is cause he’s a serial killer!! wow how did i NOT see this!?!

      • Saturday, December 22nd, 2012 04:35 pm GMT -4 at 4:35 pm

        Glad you’re finally with me. But it’s spelled “hidden hooks and craniums”

    35. Saturday, December 22nd, 2012 07:57 am GMT -4 at 7:57 am

      First time commenter, so here goes. I have been incredibly into this show since it’s third season, and I am psyched they have a ninth season. My only qualm is that I hope the wedding is the season finale and they don’t try to drag it out any longer, I want to see Ted fall in love with the mother. Oh and for the Robin and Ted people, I understand that it is hard to let go of that fact that they could end up together, but Solo is right they are fundementally different in massive ways. So to kill of the mother in the end or have them get divorced would ruin the show. I just realized this but the writers are genious I feel like they not only had to get Robin married for Ted’s sake but also the fans sake I think a lot of the fans need to see Robin happier with someone else other than Ted and for there to be no chance so they can finally accept the new woman. Trust me the suprise ending may not be what you want, my favorite shows of all time are Chuck and HIMYM and Chuck happened to end in a way of where after the two main characters finally got everything they always wanted something happened that made it impossible to keep moving forward, basically it ended with the fans not having any total closure. So what I am trying to say is although you may think that they should get back together it will ruin the closure of the television show. Robin and Barney are made for each other, and while Robin and Ted are good, I am sure the writers will make the mother and Ted a better couple than the other two, and it will be worth the eight years of getting over Robin.

    36. Saturday, December 22nd, 2012 01:56 pm GMT -4 at 1:56 pm

      so i made a gavatar. can any one tell me how i can link it to this site?

      • Sunday, December 23rd, 2012 02:09 pm GMT -4 at 2:09 pm


        Looks like it’s showing up now!

    37. Saturday, December 22nd, 2012 07:25 pm GMT -4 at 7:25 pm

      Oh and another thing, (sorry for so many comments) but anyone else interested in seeing the dynamic between Robin and the mother? I can’t imagine everything being perfectly smooth sailing, there has to be SOME sort of insecurity from at least one, if not both, sides, though I’m sure it won’t last forever. Or what if YM is similar is personality to Robin. Basically everything Ted wants in Robin plus dream girl, could there be a personality clash?!?

      The groups reactions? Marshall has always been Ted and Robin, while lily though not really having a side is slightly more team RoBarn.

      All I can say is that I’m super excited for season 9

    38. Sunday, December 23rd, 2012 02:20 pm GMT -4 at 2:20 pm

      So, some big and — from my perspective — welcome news this weekend, that HIMYM WILL get a Season 9. I’m heartened by this PROVIDED they don’t use it as an excuse to drag out the meeting further. At the very least, I think we need the introduction (e.g., “Hi, I’m [name]“) at the end of this season. A montage moment maybe, with Ted saying “Actually, let me tell you the details of how we got to our wedding. That’s a good story, too” or something, would also work.

      And then, I’m hoping, next season WITH the mother. ‘Cause here’s the thing. Even if you meet your perfect person, it’s not always 100% smooth sailing. The show has already established this. We’ve seen fights between Lily and Marshall. We’ve seen Robin and Barney come together and fall apart — and we KNOW they both have wedding jitters the day of. Just meeting the person you end up with isn’t the end of the story. There’s all the stuff that happens after that. Hell, we’ve already seen how no wedding goes perfectly on this show, from Stuart and Claudia’s, to Lily and Marshall’s, to (we can safely assume) Robin and Barneys. Even Klaus and Victoria’s and Ted and Stella’s weddings had MAJOR bumps in the road (to the point they ultimately derailed those two weddings).

      Anyway, my point is that even if we bring Ted and the Mother together at the end of this season, there’s still PLENTY of stuff that can be shown in next season. Robin and Barney as a married couple, Lily and Marshall and little Marvin growing up, and of course how the Mother integrates into the group (and whatever drama that involves, particularly when she learns of Robin’s past with Ted). There’s a lot that can be done, and ultimately, I trust the writers to do it all well. The mid-season and the season premiere proved to me that these guys know how to bring it when they need to. I’m also hoping that this will provide far greater narrative focus to the show so that we can move to an effective and satisfying conclusion.

      • Sunday, December 23rd, 2012 09:56 pm GMT -4 at 9:56 pm

        Don’t know if you saw my earlier comment on this, but I figure YM is cast and contracted, we’re already halfway into this season, and if it would have been the last, she ought to be a closed deal. Which probably means they won’t have her on standby until next season, but will introduce her. Nothing stops Ted from starting to tell her story even if he himself had not met her at this point of time. (E.g. he already told us she was in the econ class, and that she was the saint patrick celebration in season 1 where he did NOT meet her. So, nothing prevents us viewers meeting the mother before Ted meets her. Likewise, she might meet any or all of the other characters before meeting Ted. (The age old speculation about YM being Barney’s sister, would seem to imply that Barney would have met YM before Ted does).
        Also, from a meta viewpoint, as regards the question whether we’re going to get to know the mother or just get a collage final, taking into account that Victoria was the season 1 mother, and she was introduced in the middle of that season, and regarding her as a kind of dress rehearsal I think the writers plan to introduce YM well before the end of the series and they probably have arcs involving the mother already developed, or at least have ideas for such arcs.

    39. Sunday, December 23rd, 2012 03:51 pm GMT -4 at 3:51 pm

      What about TED??? Hi’s done nothing for two seasons (except becoming what the producers called “big shot architect” – so now is a famous (sad and lonley) architect!). The re-return of Victoria was a bust and the writers probably have no intention to write someting about Ted this season. If the final season is like this then why is it called HIMYM? It should been called how my best friends get merried (or not).
      I wached this show from the begining and it’s getting worse with each episode. The writers keep saying that they have enough stories to tell but it’s not true. I’m disapointed to see the show ending like this…

      • Sunday, December 23rd, 2012 04:01 pm GMT -4 at 4:01 pm

        Well, him doing nothing for two seasons is kind of the point, isn’t it? Ted’s been poised for this moment of meeting (and subsequently starting his life with) the Mother for a while now, but he still had some things to let go of. His baggage with Victoria, his baggage with Robin, etc. Certainly up until recently, I don’t think Ted’s really be ready to meet the Mother. He hadn’t resolved a lot of those other issues.

        Thing is, just because YOU’RE ready doesn’t mean the universe is gonna play ball on precisely your schedule.

        I still think we’ll see plenty about Ted. We’ll see him struggle with feeling left behind and, from my perspective, that’s meaningful. We’ll see him watch another pair of friends get married and start their life together, and we’ll get to watch how that impacts him.

        We’ll also see the fallout of his refusal to give Robin up ultimately be discovered by Robin (side note: was Barney privvy to all of that information, or was it just Lily and Marshall?). My bet is that Robin, at least, will freak and think Ted still loves her. If Barney doesn’t know, he’ll freak as well. Hell, maybe that’s how Ted gets his bandage at the wedding.

        Anyway, have faith. They’ll bring this one home satisfactorily, I think.

    40. Monday, December 24th, 2012 06:33 am GMT -4 at 6:33 am

      The Mother is Not going to be Barney’s sister. Just trust me because that rumor has been out there so long. They will write the story differently. She will not be our mom.

      • Monday, December 24th, 2012 07:15 am GMT -4 at 7:15 am

        Didn’t think so either, I just cited her as an example that YM might already be known to some of the others.

    41. Monday, December 24th, 2012 07:23 am GMT -4 at 7:23 am

      This might be a tad to early for you US guys, but since I am a Swedish resident and it’s past noon here right now and the 24th is the day we really celebrate, to paraphrase Donald Ducks and his friends:

      From all of Me to all of You HIMYM Fans: A Very Merry Christmas

    42. Monday, December 24th, 2012 08:23 am GMT -4 at 8:23 am

      Thank you Dolf. I am on vacation this week, but still wish everyone safe travels. Enjoy reading everyone comments when I can.

    43. Monday, December 24th, 2012 10:05 am GMT -4 at 10:05 am

      Hello everyone! Glad to be back on this blog! I haven’t posted a comment since last season’s finale (didn’t have much time either) but since last week’s episode I had to get some things off my chest and I wanted to share it with all you guys!

      To be honnest: I didn’t really like where the show was heading in the beginning of the season, except from this season’s pilot, which I thought would be the launch of some really quality stories. But then there was the whole slapstick about Ted and Victoria’s relationship that butchered everything about the season 1 romance between them (similar to how they handled the Slutty Pumpkin story). I mean, I knew that she wasn’t the Mother and I knew that a break-up was coming up and I was fine with that, but the writers could have at least made the break up story a little smoother.

      But the whole RoBarn story in the context of The Robin play was handled really nicely: the way Robin tried to get Barney out of her mind by sleeping with Nick (which she knew was heading nowhere) and how the awkward situation between Barney and Patrice turned out well. At first, I thought all these episodes with Nick and Patrice were really weird, but in hindsight makes the episodes look better than they initially seemed.

      And now that the final page of the RoBarn chapter has finally turned, I hope we can now begin to move on to the chapter people have been looking forward to the most: Ted’s chapter!

      And that’s why I’m so happy to hear that HIMYM will get a 9th and final season! Sorry for all the people who think that it’s time to wrap up the show, but I think that Ted needs to get a proper final chapter on the show and that wouldn’t be possible with the 12 episodes left this season. Even though I know that the show is about the gang of 5, it would be ashame to pass up the opportunity to learn to know the Mother (which is intriguing everyone).

      Last episode was almost perfect: Even though I loved everything about the jinx story and how Barney and Robin got engaged , Ted was all along the key figure! How he let go of his demons and just stood up against Marshall’s advice to be selfish, how he chose the hard way and helped his friend (the one he’s in love with) to go after Barney: that is the Ted we all know and that we’ve been missing for a while now! I only have one word for his altruism: legen…wait for it…dary!

      And that was what I remembered about the episode: only by accepting RoBarn, he could help himself out of the pit and finally move on to find the Mother (which was beautifully captured in the last shot with the two buildings). After all, Robin and Barney being present on Ted’s kick-ass building opening wouldn’t have made Ted any happier, because he knows they are in love! Now I think he is really ready to meet her and to find true happiness. Teddy Westside has grown up!

      The only thing that would’ve maybe made the episode even better, was if Narrator Ted would’ve said in the end something like this: “Kids, your father always knew that Uncle Barney and Aunt Robin were meant for each other. But kids, what he didn’t know, was that his luck was about to turn, because your mother … she was at the opening.” That would’ve given me goosebumps all over my body! But hopefully more on that later!

      • Monday, December 24th, 2012 11:36 am GMT -4 at 11:36 am

        Yeah, overall, I agree. I think that the Mother being at the building opening would be a little TOO coincidental in a story already chock-a-block full of coincidences and missed meetings. But more than that, I think Ted needed to be a man alone for a minute there. Personally, I find that to be a true transition point for the character who has, for so long, relied on his friends. I don’t think it was unhealthy of him to do so, exactly, but I think he needs to kind of feel as if he’s left to his own devices as that final step in preparing to meet the Mother.

        Regardless, it’s great to see how Ted is the lynchpin in all of these relationships. They all played their parts, but Ted is really the key to it without even really realizing it.

    44. Tuesday, December 25th, 2012 03:15 pm GMT -4 at 3:15 pm

      Merry Christmas to all of you friends..

    45. Tuesday, December 25th, 2012 04:08 pm GMT -4 at 4:08 pm

      Merry Christmas one and all!


    46. Tuesday, December 25th, 2012 11:46 pm GMT -4 at 11:46 pm

      Merry Christmas!

      I don’t understand where the show is going…

      First of all, I don’t buy Barney and Robin as a couple.
      They do have a great chemistry but as bro!
      In season 1, when they smoked cigars and played battleship, that was brilliant. I thought, finally a show where there is an interesting friendship between a guy and a girl without involving romance (past or future). But, you know, I made peace with it…people seems to like them together.

      But the proposal? When Robin discover everything was part of a plan. She says she cannot trust him any more after making her look like a fool but 2 minute after she says yes! it has been stated for years that robin do not want to get married. Why untying all their relationship by a proposal. It is really disappointing.

      As for Ted, why everyone is so mean with him? The writers decided to drag Ted feelings for Robin throughout seasons which now doesn’t make any sense with the story. For me, it is clear now that Ted thinks Robin is the one. With that statement, the mother can be super awesome, the day robin’s feelings change, ted will choose her more than the mother. 8 season of talking about Robin beats the maximum 1 season we will have with the mother even if she is great.

      Barney and Robin are so selfish specially her. Asking for Ted’s acceptance for their relation but not letting him the choice to take his distance from them because they want to keep their friendship the same. Robin took her distance when she got serious with Don which make sense, would also have made sense for Ted to do so when he got back with Victoria.

      Who would date Ted? I hated Victoria in season1. But, honestly even if she had been awfully written this season,totally make sense that Robin is an issue. I mean come on, you cannot just date a guy whose best friend is a serious ex with who he has cheating on you in the past and has declare his love for her only a few months ago…

      • Wednesday, December 26th, 2012 04:07 am GMT -4 at 4:07 am

        Simple answer at three in the morning is Ted loves Robin, but no longer in a romantic way. Ted wants a perfect match for himself and Robin is close but not his perfect match.

        On the other hand Barney and Robin are two broken pieces that together make one whole. I always liked the Josh/Ashley chemistry on this show. It was exciting to see them play off each other. We will see over the next 10 episodes if The writers can keep that up for NPH/CS.

        You have a lot of good thought out questions and hopefully someone will also write another response. I can not and probably should not try to answer them all right now.

        I had my drink of water and I am going back to sleep. Just wanted to read for a few minutes during my busy vacations. I hope you all find some time to relax. Again Every drive/fly safe.

      • Wednesday, December 26th, 2012 04:12 am GMT -4 at 4:12 am

        Again Every one drive/fly safe. Sorry typing on an I Pod.

    47. Wednesday, December 26th, 2012 06:47 am GMT -4 at 6:47 am

      Merry Christmas everyone. Hope everyone enjoyed it.

      I stopped getting email notifications, am I the only one or did I press some button? ( clearly new to technology)

      • Wednesday, December 26th, 2012 07:52 am GMT -4 at 7:52 am

        Merry Christmas to you too. Did you check your junk/spam folder? Your e-mail program might have classified the e-mails as spam, so you need to correct it.
        Otherwise, just simply try to click the e-mail box again.

        • Wednesday, December 26th, 2012 09:43 pm GMT -4 at 9:43 pm

          thanks :) i did check, guess i’ll just need to refresh the page over and over again!!!

    48. Friday, December 28th, 2012 11:40 am GMT -4 at 11:40 am

      Okay spent a few minutes of Vacation re watching Episode 12 of Season 8. I was specifically trying to see if the Lady that moves out of the way for Ted at the GNB Window is in fact Pam Fryman. That was my guess when I watched the Episode on TV but I have not had the time to look or ask around.

      I like to look closely at the scenes and see if I can find anything extra. I have watched 11 and 12 a few times and still feel like I am missing something BIG.

      There was a lot to the scene with Ted and Robin I was going over that last conversation to see if Ted really was giving his blessing with no regrets.

      Marshall and Ted talking at the Bar still brings up more questions. I do not know where the writers are going with the Marshall and Lily bet. Why is Marshall still holding out? That bugs me more than anything. It may just be a mis-direction by the writers.

      I see with everyones Holiday Schedules the conversations has all but stopped. So if anyone has some time help me out here.

      • Friday, December 28th, 2012 11:52 am GMT -4 at 11:52 am

        My take on Marshall’s motivation is extreme loyalty to Ted. He said it himself. He’s on Team Tedward. (or something like that) Towards that end, I think Marshall’s insistence is less about Ted pursuing ROBIN per se, but rather Ted pursuing HAPPINESS. And if Robin is the thing that makes him happy, then he should go for it full throttle, and quit putting everyone else’s satisfaction first.

        In a sense, that’s what makes the scene in the limo so meaningful: Ted DOES decide what makes him happy…and recognizes that it isn’t Robin. Not romantically, anyway. They really ARE better as friends, and they love each other in that regard, but Ted’s finally realized he wants something else.

        To me, the last scene with Ted means that he’s at a crossroads. Robin was kind of a security blanket. A fallback position for Ted. If it didn’t work out with some other girl, he could always hope that maybe Robin would finally come around. But The Final Page Part 2 makes it clear that he’s finally let go of that (a process which took him several seasons, actually — which I think is realistic). Now Ted’s performing without a net, so to speak, and that’s scary, but also thrilling. I hope that the writers can address this, because I think it’s incredibly important for Ted’s character and him FINALLY being ready for The Mother.

        • Friday, December 28th, 2012 05:14 pm GMT -4 at 5:14 pm

          I agree with the realictic part. I think that everyone has /or had/ someone like that. I have one friend, few years early I had some serious feelings for him, he for me… But we split up, but we are still friends, and even we talk about our other romantic issues and interests, after few other relationships he told me in September , he still loves me, but he know I m not the one. It s just – we had really good time together and we have even now, but we are not meant to be , we have too different plans with future. I m sorry for too personal attitude, but I understand.

    49. Friday, December 28th, 2012 04:52 pm GMT -4 at 4:52 pm

      great, a season 9 (eyeroll). let’s keep dragging it out, that’s worked awesome for so many other shows! if there’s no mother by the end of this season, i’m not watching.

      • Friday, December 28th, 2012 05:10 pm GMT -4 at 5:10 pm

        I understand the trepidation about a Season 9, but let’s bear in mind that (A) the writers have been unsure if Season 8 was actually going to be the last one and (B) they’ve said that they have enough material for two seasons. They COULD end it at 8, but they could also go another season.

        Now, I don’t know about you, but I really don’t want them to just do some musical montage of the Mother after introducing her in literally the series finale. “Hi, I’m [Not Tracy or Barney's sister or Bump Girl],” and cue music followed by Future Ted narration. No thanks.

        We’ll have spent 8 years with Ted & Co. by the time we get to the end of this season. I’d hope we get to spend at least 1 with The Mother & Ted & Co.

        We know that any subsequent season will be funny. Being merely funny has never been a weak point for the show; it’s always pretty funny. But where the show has been uneven has been in its focus and its heart, as I think of it. Towards that end, I think that the next season would (hopefully) shift focus firmly back to Ted, which is something we’ve been missing for a while.

        I’m hopeful that the writers can pull off a satisfactory 9th season. Although I too will be VERY irritated if we don’t meet her at the end of this season or the VERY beginning of next.

    50. Friday, December 28th, 2012 05:16 pm GMT -4 at 5:16 pm

      I agree with the realictic part. I think that everyone has /or had/ someone like that. I have one friend, few years early I had some serious feelings for him, he for me… But we split up, but we are still friends, and even we talk about our other romantic issues and interests, after few other relationships he told me in September , he still loves me, but he know I m not the one. It s just – we had really good time together and we have even now, but we are not meant to be , we have too different plans with future. I m sorry for too personal attitude, but I understand…..

    51. Friday, December 28th, 2012 05:30 pm GMT -4 at 5:30 pm

      Hey a lot of shows have gone way past season 9. This one is still relevent at Season 8. Yes I will be dissapointed if we do not have a wedding etc. at the end of 8. I want to get to Ted, New life, dating his future wife, have kids, and live happily ever after. We want to finally see this great life that Narrator Ted is talking about. Like I said earlier: right now I want to see how Barney and Robin stay together for more than a few episodes without imploding. I want to see Marshall change some diapers. I want to see Ted get on with his life without dreaming of Robin.

      Really what is next for Ted? Can he actually go find a girl on his own? Are Barney and Robin going to live together? Will Robin want Barney to get a new appartment? Ted has Quinn’s old appartment. Will Barney have to give up strip clubs?

      I could write a few funny episodes right now and I think each one of us could finish a story from the past. By the time we are done we would be in Season 10.

    52. Sunday, December 30th, 2012 11:35 am GMT -4 at 11:35 am

      Here is a partial mid paragraph quote from Bays that I want to tease out there. It came from E-Online

      It’s obvious this show is around one central question, so that meeting will be….

      and no I am not going to give you the link but it was from 2012.

    53. Sunday, December 30th, 2012 11:41 am GMT -4 at 11:41 am

      I was going to wait and send this one out later but they kind of go together. If you doubt the truthfullness of what future Ted SAYS then you must ignore what the writers say. Here is the quote.

      “Our rationale was that our narrator has never lied to us,” Carter Bays says. “We take the stuff he says as gospel. Ultimately, it’s a pretty reliable narrator. I think people can trust what Bob Saget says.”

    54. Monday, December 31st, 2012 12:16 am GMT -4 at 12:16 am

      solo and ross …. i pewped

    55. Monday, December 31st, 2012 12:54 am GMT -4 at 12:54 am

      Happy New Year Friends!! Hope 2013 will be awesome for all of us….

      I think going for a season 9 the writers got a chance to plan and play the things with much more clarity..

      Rather than ending with some 10 randomly narrated episode there are 36 last episodes for the beloved show… So I hope we all can enjoy till may 2014…

      Right now its’ Barney and Robin time in the show at least for this season.. We might see a whole season or half season of mother in season 9..Hopefully..

      Enjoy the last day of the year and be safe…

    56. Monday, December 31st, 2012 11:07 am GMT -4 at 11:07 am

      2013 How I Met Your Mother will be the best ever.

      Just a quick disclaimer: I do not think this is spoiler information.

      We all know it should happen. I am just glad that HIMYM have recently said they are going fill in some missing information for the audience. I am not going to get into specifics around what information they are going to reveal because that would be a spoiler.

      I have seen on the web where some people are saying with a Season Nine the story is going to get stretched out. I disagree. In fact CB and CT say, they are going to be able to finish with much more information, because of the extra episodes.

      The writers are going to start connecting the dots… showing us why specific stories from the past had to happen in order for things to move on with all 5 of the main Characters. I expect it will be similar to what just happened with THE ROBIN.

      My speculation: We will get some flash backs to a previously aired portion of an episode, along with a more detailed reveal about what happened or what someone was thinking.

      Now that the Barney Robin story line is moving on we will see the other three also take a look at where they are in life. We may see some changes in Marshall, Lily, and Ted before the end of Season 8. I expect it will not seem stale or stagnant.

      Now for those of you who have not read the spoiler information feel free to speculate on what may or may not happen. This is the fun part that I just will not be able to do because of the specific details that I read. Therefore Solo and Jordan are spoiler free.

      • Monday, December 31st, 2012 02:14 pm GMT -4 at 2:14 pm

        I like how you comment new news, but you should really add some links for people who want to read also the spoilers.

        • Monday, December 31st, 2012 10:27 pm GMT -4 at 10:27 pm

          I would rather not post the links on the web site but I will e-mail them to you. Send a message to hymvictoria@live.com

          She was my favorite Guest Star of the Show.

          I collected some of the links for you from my Browser History.

        • Wednesday, January 2nd, 2013 11:12 am GMT -4 at 11:12 am

          I was thinking about the final episode ever and how it might end and this is what I came up with.

          Once Ted has finished his story the mother would come in and say something like “Now kids, perhaps I will tell you the story of how I met your father”.

    57. Wednesday, January 2nd, 2013 03:54 pm GMT -4 at 3:54 pm

      So… I have heard mention on this and other blogs about The Color Theory. It has been obvious this season with the purples and yellows, but I think it’s been there since day 1.

      Let me stop here… I follow this blog fairly regularly, but have not been able to read every post. I hope I’m not repeating what someone else has already mentioned and discussed previously. If so, oops!! I know for sure it has been mentioned in a different way before (http://corinawrites.com/2012/04/02/himym-how-color-theory-convinced-me-that-barney-marries-robin/).

      Here’s what I’ve been able to come up with: the colors the characters wear are like mood rings. It seems to hold up because I have been watching various reruns in no special order and stacking up my hypothesis.

      Green: “Off” not interested in romantic relationship. See: No Tomorrow and Pilot

      Red (Pink)/Blue: “On” in or looking for a romantic relationship. See: Ted, Marshall and Lily almost all the time, also the blue french horn.

      Yellow: the color of breaking up. See: any episode with breakups.

      White: wedding. See: this week’s final episode with the proposal.

      Purple: potential romantic relationship? A mix of red/blue?

      Black: divorce??

      There are some notable flaws. Zoe wears white a lot. I don’t think she and Ted get married…


    58. Thursday, January 3rd, 2013 02:27 am GMT -4 at 2:27 am

      I hate how the show is making it seem like Barney is better than Ted. Robin clearly loves Barney more than she does Ted… She flat out told Ted that she doesn’t love him but gets all googly eyed about Barney…It makes me sick because Mosby is clearly the better man….Barney is a horrible person this is evident in how Barney starts to sleep with Robin in the first place…Not to mention all of the lies and trickery to get women in bed a true ladies man don’t need all that crap….I also find him very annoying….Although Ted loves Robin he even stops sleeping with Robin at one point because he knows it was hurtful to Barney in the episode when they where having argument sex….I just hope they hurry up and find Ted some one way better than Robin.

      • Thursday, January 3rd, 2013 10:19 am GMT -4 at 10:19 am

        I don’t think the show’s making Barney out to be “better” than Ted. Better for Robin, certainly, but that’s kind of the point. Not everyone is perfect for everyone else. Robin and Barney belong together. Robin and Ted don’t. That’s not because Ted’s inferior to Barney in some absolute, objective sense. It’s because people ought to end up with the right person FOR THEM. Barney is the right guy FOR ROBIN. He’s a scumbag for a lot of other people (albeit a loveable scumbag). Ted’s the right guy FOR THE MOTHER.

        Now, if we’re talking about Ted “deserving” better, yeah, he does…but it’s like Clint Eastwood says in Unforgiven: “Deserve’s got nothin’ to do with it.” Much of the time you don’t get what you deserve, as much as you get what you’re ready for. I tend to think that most of Ted’s problems have been that he hasn’t truly been ready to find the Mother. He’s been close for a while, but he’s not been there yet. I suspect the upcoming episodes will explore that to a greater or lesser degree. I’m hoping greater…

        • Thursday, January 3rd, 2013 10:51 am GMT -4 at 10:51 am

          What???I don’t see how Barney is anymore right for Robin than Ted is….I mean think about it there was the commitment issue I think it is pretty clear that Robin is not so much against marriage anymore just against it to Ted….All of Barney’s actions also show that he wants kids regardless of what he says and besides Ted was willing to look past that but Robin just doesn’t love him….Not to mention that when they are in a relationship Robin and Barney was so bad for each other did we forget about that with fat Barney and old looking Robin…They couldn’t even argue about the fact that she didn’t want him at the strip club if anyone was perfect for Barney it was Quinn. People look past all of that because in the end they are rooting for Barney the scumbag because he is lovable…..For me it has to do with happiness I feel that people root for Barney’s happiness at the expense of Ted’s…I know that they are not intentionally rooting against Ted’s happiness but for right now being that Ted is in love with Robin them rooting for Barney and Ted indirectly roots for Ted’s unhappiness.

        • Thursday, January 3rd, 2013 11:26 am GMT -4 at 11:26 am

          But that’s just it. I don’t think Ted IS in love ith Robin anymore. I think he loves her, but he’s not IN love with her. I don’t even really think he was last season. I think what he was looking more for was solace and an end to his quest.

          As for Barney being right for Robin, he’s certainly MORE right than Ted is. I think he understands her better on an instinctive level than Ted does (yes, even in spite of Robin 101). Barney’s deeply screwed up and in ways that Robin is too, and I think they both see that in each other.

          Actually, that brings up something to consider from last season. Robin chose Kevin over Barney because Kevin basically said he believed in her and saw her as this wonderful creature. Powerful stuff, but I think it was powerful because Robin DOESN’T see herself that way (see also, deep-seated daddy issues).

          Barney, on the other hand, sees her for who she is, and accepts her fully. He doesn’t need to be her cheerleader, to boost her up. He loves her for who she is, not who she could be. I think, arguably, it took Robin’s relationship with Kevin and maybe even Ted’s confession of love last sason to really get her to start seeing herself as worthy of more. Couple that with Barney’s proposal and it starts to make sense why they’re good for each other.

          They “get” each other in ways that the other characters don’t. That’s not to say the other characters don’t understand them, but they don’t understand them on the same experientially-based level that Robin and Barney understand each other. They were both essentially abandoned by a parent, or at least maltreated in a sense. They both crave approval and love, but are both terrified of being hurt, which is why they behave as they do. The others can see this from the outside, and recognize it intellectually, but they don’t have the emotional experience to compare it to (well, maybe Lily, but she has Marshall, so she’s in a VERY different situation).

          I think, basically, that to understand the connection between Barney and Robin, you have to look past their more superficial qualities. They have those in common, sure, but what they’ve really got is a shared understanding of each other. Plus, Barney has never wanted more from Robin than what she could give. Remember when Ted criticized Robin for not being vulnerable and “needing” him more? Barney’s response was that he didn’t care and thought that that was part of what made her so awesome. It’s stuff like that, I think, that makes Robin right for Barney and vice versa.

          Rooting for the two of them, by the way, IS rooting for Ted. Ted would be miserable with Robin in the long run. Robin would never be able to give him what he wants most. She couldn’t give him kids, she couldn’t give him the KIND of love that he wants, either. They communicate in very different ways, they emote differently, etc. And while opposites attract, they don’t necessarily hold together. Robin’s wrong for Ted in many, many ways and that’s why her getting together with Barney is GOOD for Ted.

        • Thursday, January 3rd, 2013 12:16 pm GMT -4 at 12:16 pm

          I guess you are right I can see why some one would think that they are better together but I don’t think Robin knows what she really wants in a relationship just like 5 years ago she wasn’t the marrying type and now she is open to it…I also don’t think that just because you cheer some one up and build up their self confidence that means that you don’t like them just the way they are…But I like your analysis of it thanks…..Also I understand how rooting for Robin and Barney is rooting for Ted but not right now whlie Ted is lonely and is still in love with Robin…I could see if he was in a relationship…Even knowing everything that I know I still think that robin ends up with Ted the show is called how I met your mother not how I met my wife….I think the way marshall said not yet to the Robin/Ted bet….and not to mention the fact that the kids have drawings of them walking as kids with Aunt Robin holding their hands….I could be wrong but I think they do end up together.

    59. Thursday, January 3rd, 2013 10:12 am GMT -4 at 10:12 am

      Joe Jan. 2 wrote a reply to Sabhya Kaushal Dec. 19th comment at the top of this review. I wanted to bring it to the attention of those who just skip to the bottom and are not subscribing the RSS Feed.

      Here is Joe’s first Paragraph.
      “Robin was Ted’s first love. I don’t think you ever really give up on your first love. A part of you always hangs on to something there, even if the feelings themselves have passed. I truly don’t believe ex-lovers can be friends, it’s too difficult, and there’s too much baggage. Ted and Robin’s “friendship” was founded on Ted’s hope of ultimately being with her one day. He’s lying to himself if he doesn’t admit that. It’s so rare, such a dynamic would exist between ex-lovers without one or both still harboring feelings. Victoria knew this, and that’s why she could never trust Ted fully. If the Mother is so selfless, to accept it, then I guess that makes her better than all of us; but truthfully, how many of us can say we’d be OK with our husbands/wives being that close to their first love?”

      • Thursday, January 3rd, 2013 11:07 am GMT -4 at 11:07 am

        What????is there any evidence to suggest that Robin was ted’s first love…and Ted wasn’t Robin’s first love??? I mean Ted falls in love fast and hard I don’t think this was his first love….Now Robin who has trouble falling in Love I do believe that Ted may have been her first Love…..There friendship was founded on the hopes that Ted would get with her one day but that is not why it lasted because after they became friends he actually did get the girl than they had a mutual split….”Because they seen themselves in different places in the future” there was never any feelings lost….In fact since they broke up and still was friends they both were harboring feelings for each other look at the episode when Ted was going to get married to Stella she confessed her love to him

      • Thursday, January 3rd, 2013 12:14 pm GMT -4 at 12:14 pm

        I don’t think Robin is Ted’s first love, but she’s certainly one of the bigger loves in his life. Regardless of whether she was the first, I understand the notion of a current significant other being uncomfortable with someone remaining friends with an ex.

        Anyway, as for it being a problem, I think it really depends on the nature of the relationship with the ex, and the relationship with the current significant other (whom I’ll refer to as “CSO” going forward).

        If, for example, your relationship with your ex was years ago, or if you only dated briefly and then became friends, I don’t see a reason for there to be a problem. On the other hand, if you’re still friends and it’s only been a few months since it ended, and the wounds are still fresh…yeah, I can see reason to be a bit uneasy.

        I tend to think that problem, though, resides more in the CSO and/or the relationship between yourself and the CSO. If that’s unstable, then an ex who’s a close friend could be a trigger for anxiety, even if the real issues aren’t about the ex per se.

        With Victoria and Ted, I saw not so much a problem with Ted still being in love with Robin (he wasn’t). Rather, I saw Victoria being Victoria. Remember Victoria’s M.O.: when things get serious, she bails. She did it with Ted before when she was contemplating moving to Germany. She did it with Ted again when she was getting close with Klaus before their breakup (even though Ted did it too with Robin). She did it with Klaus on the DAY OF THEIR WEDDING. And she did it again after Ted proposed. Things get serious, she hits the road or finds a reason to.

        With that instinct, I think it’s pretty easy to see why Robin was suddenly the imagined impediment. But I’d bet if it hadn’t been Robin, it would’ve been someone or something else. I tend to think that, if the relationship itself is solid, your CSO won’t care about your ex. If they trust you, and they trust the relationship, they won’t be sitting around waiting for the other shoe to drop constantly.

    60. Thursday, January 3rd, 2013 01:47 pm GMT -4 at 1:47 pm

      First a disclaimer,
      I am not taking a stand on anything Jo said. I do think the conversation is relevant. OBVIOUSLY YOU BOTH AGREE.

      Did either of you go and read the rest of Joe’s comments? I just copied his first Paragraph. I will copy the rest below.

      Anyway I (Ross) do think Robin could have been Ted’s first Love. I think his other high school/College girlfriends are more of a crush. Just like Robin and her old band boyfriend (sand castle in the sand). These individuals help you develop an idea of what a relationship is. Ted has developed a love for Robin as a friend. In that respect she is his first Real Lasting Love. That is someone that you think you can spend the rest of your life with.

      If you did not see his (Jo) post: Here is the rest of what Jo had to say “Barney and Robin are very similar. TOO similar. That’s the precise reason they shouldn’t be together. They are both damaged people, and damaged people don’t go on living happily ever after. I’ve been in relationships like that, and they always fight too much, and both parties end up hurt. There’s a reason they say opposites attract. Ted wasn’t trying to change Robin into something she’s not; if anything he was trying to change himself into something he’s not for her. But, what it was about, was trying to help her and find happiness, in spite of being damaged.

      I fail to understand why the writers would introduce her as such a central figure in the first episode if they never intended Ted and Robin to end up together. That’s like not having Ross and Rachel end up together, or JD and Eliot, or Derek and Meredith, or Steve Urkel and Laura, or George Clooney and the nurse chick in ER. why would the creaters play such a cruel joke on us?

      Also – doesn’t anyone wonder if they hate Ted? Why make him and LEAVE him so miserable for 8+ years?”

      Thank you Jo for sharing your thoughts.

      • Thursday, January 3rd, 2013 05:34 pm GMT -4 at 5:34 pm

        i think someone could easily be someone’s first love/central figure in life for many years, but with time when they meet THE one, it changes. ok so not EASILY but with lots of hard work on both party’s part, it should be do-able…

        if not…i’m done for lol

    61. Friday, January 4th, 2013 10:09 am GMT -4 at 10:09 am

      This is an old quote from TV Guide before Season 7. We are currently in Season 8 waiting for Episode 13 to air. I will share the link to the site but I wanted to share a couple of Paragraphs.

      Yes this is an old article but I enjoy looking at older pre Season Spoilers and show how accurate the articles are. There is nothing in this about shows not already aired.

      “Where is Ted (Josh Radnor) now after he was this close to getting back together with Zoey?
      Thomas: We’ve seen Ted go through a lot of turmoil over the years — getting dumped at the altar, the Arcadian drama with Zoey. But we’ll see Ted on a bit of a hot streak in Season 7. He’s a hotshot architect having his building built in New York City. He’s realizing, ‘Wait a second. I’m kind of a catch right now.’ His stock is very high and he’s dealing with the fact that he’s very attractive to the ladies at the moment. He’s struggling whether to take advantage of that or stay on track of trying to find the right person to settle down with. Is this the moment to work it a little bit? He’s a little torn. … So he and Barney are swapping places! [Laughs] By the end of Season 7, Ted will wear suits and Barney’s hair will be spiky and messy.

      Some fans are impatient about the mother reveal. Are you concerned about their reaction to Ted being back on the dating scene now?
      Thomas: The way we look at the show is that if it’s purely about answering that question, the show will be five seconds long. We love that larger question and we’re now coming at it with this future perspective of this future wedding day. I don’t worry too much about that question as long as we’re telling interesting stories about these characters. During Season 6, I was far more interested in what Marshall was going through, losing his father. It’s about writing about characters, trying to make people care about them. Our cast is fantastic and we feel lucky to write for them. Whether people are impatient, all I can hope is that people care about our characters.”

      The show has always been about more than Ted meeting the Mother. In another article Bays and Thomas talk about having a totally different name for the show. It would still be the same if it was Ted and his friends or something like that.

      It is more than Ted falling in Love. Ted is the central story Yes. He always has been the most important. I will still watch Season 9 if Ted meets the mother in Season 8. I will still watch if Ted meets the mother at the very last episode of Season 9.

      Oh, almost forgot the link from July 2011


      • Friday, January 4th, 2013 12:29 pm GMT -4 at 12:29 pm

        As regards story telling, I’ll do a detour here, but bear with me, I’ll arrive to the point as it relates to HIMYM eventually.
        When I was in the beginning of my teens (first half of 70s), I started reading Sven Hassel. I guess you most likely never heard of him, but he was a huge writer in my days. The guy, who is Danish, basically writes/wrote (he’s still alive as far as I know, but must be well over 90 now) about his experiences as a volunteer in the German army during WW II. The truthfulness of his story telling has (rightfully) been severely questioned and he is pretty much persona non grata in the establishment (despite being one of the best selling Danes of all times you can’t get a single book of him from the Danish libraries, when I was living i Denmark I only managed to find one book about him, and that one denounced him). His stories are gruesome, they cured me once and for all of all romantic notions of war. They are vivid, brutal and horrible. (The opening scenes of Saving Private Ryan is about the closest you get to him movie wise) and the cynicism of people appalling. In between their are also hilariously funny moments, as his squad/platoon is a collection of rogues the likes of which i hope I never meet in real life.
        I also had a friend (or have, he’s still a friend, though I hardly ever see him anymore) that is the most hilarious story teller I know. I can sit an listen to him for hours when he, himself giggling, tells purportedly true (but no-one really believes that) stories of all kinds of adventures.
        These two persons, one that I know as author, and one which is a personal friend are the two best story tellers that I know, and though what they both tell are purportedly true, they are totally opposite each other in what they tell. One tell horror stories of war, the other hilariously funny hillbilly type stories, but I noticed early that they had one thing in common, and that is also something they do have in common with Ted and which I think probably is a common denominator for really good story tellers.
        They all three are involved in what does happen in the overall ARC, they are note necessarily present in all of what they’re telling, but they are all three telling of events where they were present or which are strictly second hand, i.e. involves people they personally know. But … and this is really the point of this long rambling … none of these three story tellers do really put themselves at the center of events, more than they actually were there. They for the most part act as mere observers, not as participants or linchpins of the events being related.
        Therefore it makes total sense to me that long arcs of the show are not Tedcentric. Even though Ted is a fictional character, and he is being portrayed as being an excruciatingly tedious story-teller, he is in fact a very good story-teller. I mean, what the heck, who else than an exceptionally good story-teller can captivate people around the world for 8 years?

        (and just so no-one gets any weird ideas about me, Danes are worse than Poles – I’m Swedish)

        • Friday, January 4th, 2013 02:34 pm GMT -4 at 2:34 pm

          @Dolf you are so right. This is a great Story. So many times the Writers get off track in the longer TV Shows. This one is still on Target. I enjoy hearing from you. We watch with Anticipation. I was just watching on Netflix Season 7 Episode 1.

          It starts with Ted saying “Kids if there is one big theme to this story, and I Swear we’re totally almost not really all that close to the end, it’s timing. Timing is everything, for example, I NEVER WOULD HAVE MET YOUR MOTHER IF IT WERN’T FOR A WEDDING. The last wedding I ever thought I would be at.” Then Ted walks into Barney’s dressing room.

          So my current question is this. Why this wedding? Is it the train station? Is someone besides Ted at the train station because of the wedding? or If the wedding was not on that day would Ted have never ever crossed the path of the Mother again? Was she leaving town for good?

          Remember Ted had to stay in New York to meet the mother if my memory is correct. Someone missed a job interview or did not take a job. I know Robin turned down a Job that Don her boyfriend took instead.

          Anyway just circling back to this quote if anyone cares to refresh my memory…

        • Friday, January 4th, 2013 03:20 pm GMT -4 at 3:20 pm

          lol @Dolf, I agree with you. but you told story in quite a Teddish way, going on an arc and coming back :P

    62. Friday, January 4th, 2013 03:53 pm GMT -4 at 3:53 pm


      That’s the episode where Marshall is supposed to run the marathon but hurts himself when Robyn walks in on him in the bathroom. Barry takes his spot and gets stuck on the subway when his legs stop working and Ted jumps the turnstile to get him. Ted gets busted and had to go to court that morning and they didn’t get to the airport for the interview in Chicago. Older Ted recounts that he was glad he never got the job because the position was soon moved to Chicago and we would have gone there, but didn’t.

      This might have also been the episode with the penny and Ted and Robyn backtracking to find out who was to blame for Ted missing his flight. End of episode was him realizing he was at fault.

      • Friday, January 4th, 2013 08:31 pm GMT -4 at 8:31 pm

        Thank you Steve I could not remember all that happened in the episode.

        “Lucky Penny” is the 15th episode in the second season of the television series How I Met Your Mother and 37th overall. It originally aired on February 12, 2007.

        I will have to watch it now. I am gathering some information to put together for the Summer. It will take a few months to put it all together. Really appreciate the help.

    63. Friday, January 4th, 2013 10:40 pm GMT -4 at 10:40 pm

      i think some of the comments about ted’s chemistry, is exactly why we need to meet the mother at the end of this season, and have next season be working towards the birth of there first born. (it could be argued she isnt really the mother till she is a mother)

      we need to know why is this woman the one ted has been on this journey for. if all we see is him see her (or a quick shot of random actress) and then; end. then it seems like she is only the mother due to lack of other options, or because the one he didnt want him.

      i repeat great as this show is, after 8 seasons, we need to meet the mother, aka get to know why she is the one ted needs to be with. which could be tough to write, but if the writers re-watch all of himym and really study ted, then i think they could easily give us a great season of meeting the mother.

    64. Monday, January 7th, 2013 10:57 am GMT -4 at 10:57 am

      One more week. The 14th and 21st are going to be exciting.

      I want to say thanks to those who are working on specific HIMYM informational pages. With 7 and a half seasons of stories to go through your contributions to the blog are appreciated and will be noted.

      Is everyone happy with how the season has gone so far?

      I will ask again after episode 14.

      Have not seen a lot of posts on this site about season 9.

      I am also interested to hear about your predictions!!

      • Monday, January 7th, 2013 02:55 pm GMT -4 at 2:55 pm

        Stop teasing us!! :)
        I’m trying to hold myself not to look for spoilers.
        I use to look for spoilers a lot but since I’ve stopped doing that the show has been a lot more enjoyable.

        I’m guessing the upcoming episodes will be exciting as they didn’t know about the renewal yet.

        I’m not one of those that thinks te show needs to reveal the Mother as soon as possible, but I don’t hope they’re going to wait until mid-end Season 9.

        The reveal of the Mother could lead to a lot of interesting storytelling.
        I’m hoping that the Mother will narrate together with Future Ted and tell us why we missed here at St. Patrick’s Day, Econ Class, etc.

        And I’m liking this Season so far, wasn’t to happy with the first four episodes except for the Farhampton ending.

        But since Stamp Tramp the show been getting better every week. Some parts are still a bit to over the top like Seth Green’s plot and the screaming towards the camera.

        The reveal of The Robin is definitely one of the highlights of the entire show atleast for me.

        I’m really excited for the second half of the season.

        • Monday, January 7th, 2013 03:39 pm GMT -4 at 3:39 pm

          I think the idea of the Mother and Ted narrating together towards the end is a fantastic one, and something that could really bring it home with the fans. They could fill in so many gaps – and use it as a “where was she” episode so that us diehards could go back and see her in the episodes when we were told she was there. It would be quite a “salute” to those of us who disect the show each week for sure :)

        • Monday, January 7th, 2013 06:40 pm GMT -4 at 6:40 pm

          You caught me. I was teasing a little bit… mostly at (SOLO4114) because he likes to stay spoiler free. I have been sending some of you e-mails about interesting things I have found from Past episodes and trying to see if it fits with what others may have heard in spoiler sections.

          This is not a Spoiler. I was re watching episode 1. I know every one thinks the mother has dark hair probably black or dark brown. The photo of Ted kissing her with the hair net is to give some flexibility.

          Anyway the woman that Robin is talking to when Ted and Barney first eye her across the room has blond hair and darker roots. Could she have been a stand in for the mother? You kind of see her face.

          That has been running around for 7 1/2 years. Now could they do a close up of her and it be the new actress that is playing the final MOM, Mrs. Ted Mosby.

          This is the fun speculation that anyone can participate in. I have noticed a lot of threads now that we are in Season 8 that go back all the way through. The writers have had a lot of fun. For instance Barney was always discouraging Ted from Dating Robin. Some in Season One Episode 1. More in Episode 2. Barney always checks out Robin. He told Ted on more than one occasion to give it up and go for other girls.

          Now Bays and Thomas paired Ted and Robin up first then found the Robin Barney Chemistry later. Even with that they left room from the Start for a Barney Robin Relationship.

          Someone also went and took a screen shot of Barney’s Dad’s house and a young woman that may be his daughter and son in a photo on the stairs. We have yet to see her in an episode and she could be the mother. Remember we have a lot of Mother Hints and we will soon update a page for everyone to see.

    65. Monday, January 7th, 2013 03:03 pm GMT -4 at 3:03 pm

      Also found this article about the HIMYM Color Theory, no spoilers.


      This color theory seems to a real thing, as its mentioned on this site multiple times also.

      Almost makes me want to rewatch the entire series to see if I missed something.

    66. Tuesday, January 8th, 2013 02:56 pm GMT -4 at 2:56 pm

      Hope I type this right. I am doing it on the fly so excuse my mistakes please.

      SO I am playing around with Season One episodes. I am listening mostly to Episode 21 Milk right at the moment. Lily and Ted just did their Car versus Perfect Date dance. Let me back up a little before I make my point.

      I was wondering why Bays and Thomas went back to Love Solutions at this specific moment in the Show. Ellen Pierce could not find a match for Ted because the 9.4 out of 10 if memory serves, was a dermatologist that already was matched with someone else and engaged.

      So many months later Bob Rorschach calls up Ted and says for 500 dollars we will give you the file of your perfect match that the computer just found. Ted grabs the file and reads the list of similarities and he is hooked.

      Ted gets to the Bar early for his date and the Phone rings. It is Lily (Ms. sleepless in Seattle). You see Lily loves painting and was wondering if she was any good at it. This is all Ted’s fault by the way. Lily, who could not sleep at night all the time after getting engaged, did this because VICTORIA followed her dream all the way to Germany.

      Ted: All right stay there I’m on my way.
      Narrator Ted: And so one 90 dollar Cab ride later I was in the middle of nowhere.
      Lily: Oh thank god. I am so sorry about this did you get a hold of your date?
      Ted: Yes
      Lily: And was she okay about pushing it back.
      Ted: Yes, because she is perfect. So what am I doing here?
      Lily: You can never tell Marshall
      Ted: I won’t
      Lily: Ever Swear Swear on the Lives of your unborn boy and Girl.
      Ted: I sear on LUKE and LEIA…..

      So basically this Episode is about Freaking Out.
      Lily: Lost dreams versus Being tied down in Marriage
      Barney and Marshall: about the Guy across the street
      Ted: Robin
      Robin: Work etc.

      The conversation that Lily and Ted have is I think the reason Bays and Thomas put this episode right at 21. That and Season 2 Renewal.

      So Ted fixes the tire and closes the Trunk.
      Lily: Ted, let’s go to New Haven
      Ted: Lily don’t do this to yourself.
      Lily: I just need to know…. come on it’s an adventure.
      Ted: No it’s not an adventure it’s a mistake.

      LILY: OKAY YES IT’S A MISTAKE. I KNOW IT’S A MISTAKE BUT THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS IN LIFE WHERE YOU KNOW IT’S A MISTAKE BUT YOU DON’T REALLY KNOW IT’S A MISTAKE, because the only way to really know it’s a mistake is to make the mistake and look back and say Yep that was a mistake. So really the bigger mistake would be to not make the mistake, because then you go your whole life not knowing if something is a mistake or not!!

      Lily goes on to say Ted is her best friend and he is going to have to forgive her for this. Ted is stranded and calls Robin to pick him up and he gives up on the Date for Robin and her funny hair coloring. He does not want perfect he wants Robin.

      Here is one thread that I really see played out with everyone in this show.

      The Next mistake made is Ted going for Robin or is IT.

      Who is the Mother? Is this perfect date girl the mother? Was Ted ready to meet the mother at this time?

      What I really want to say at this point is go ahead and make some mistakes in your life, find out what you did right or wrong and fix it now. Like Nora said to Barney it is never too late. Oh and try not to Ted Out on the way.

    67. Tuesday, January 8th, 2013 05:44 pm GMT -4 at 5:44 pm

      another Robin Sparkles episode is coming, folks! This isn’t a spolier — just a link of the guest stars that have signed up for the episode.


    68. RD
      Wednesday, January 9th, 2013 08:33 am GMT -4 at 8:33 am

      Guys this is the promo for next week’s episode! :D

    69. Wednesday, January 9th, 2013 09:49 am GMT -4 at 9:49 am

      RD thanks for the link. Those who would like to take a peak please DO NOT DISCUSS WHAT YOU SEE Here that would be a SPOILER for those (JD, Jordan, Solo 4114) who like to see the episodes for the first time the night it AIRs.

      After that all bets are off for that episode.

      Everyone understand that IN THE EPISODE RECAP we DO NOT TYPE ABOUT FUTURE EPISODES (unless you are speculating)or guessing) if you know or see anything. That includes:

      Future show titles

      Future Guest Stars

      Future Plot lines

      It is okay to Post as long as you are not specific about the content. RD you did it correctly and thank you.

    70. Wednesday, January 9th, 2013 09:51 am GMT -4 at 9:51 am

      BTW, I remember that in the first seasons – one episode was always about Ted s birthday. But not anymore, since… season 5?

    71. Wednesday, January 9th, 2013 12:43 pm GMT -4 at 12:43 pm

      In season 2 Episode 6 Adrin justice, Ted wore his “justice khakies” and pitched the idea for his over 70 story building in place of Hamond Druthers giant erected phalic symbol, Ted said something important to Lily right before she gave him back his chair screws.

      Narrator Ted was describing how the Seatle Washington client wanted to capture the history and distinctions of the North West. This showed Ted had vision. He could be a great Designer. Then why did he fail with Mosby Designs?

      This episode was another one for the entire group showing growth. Everyone was trying things out. Lily and her various careers then, (Ending Song We’re #1) “turn around now back where you’re from.” Marshall and the previous episode about Brad, Brunch and being alone without Lily. In that episode Barney more than Lily got a taste of what it was like being in a relationship (sprout idea of him and Robin).

      Narrator Ted: The trajectory of my entire career might have been different had I not unwittingly worn my justice kakies that day.

      Lily Congrats Ted.

      Ted: Hey, Thanks for telling me to stand up to Druthers and pitch my idea. Seriously, non of this would have happened if it wasn’t for you.

      This was another thread in the getting to the mother provided by Lily. It gave Ted the courage to make some other mistakes, like the first attempt to build a sky scraper for Barney’s Firm and trying his own business venture.

    72. Wednesday, January 9th, 2013 03:18 pm GMT -4 at 3:18 pm

      I think Robin belongs with Ted. I don’t get the whole Barney thing at all. In the real world, you just can’t put someone with a past like his behind you in a relationship. Robin also said she never wanted marriage yet here she is saying yes to Barney of all people. I think the writers really messed this story up. The only way any of this makes sense is that somehow in the end Robin is the mother. Then all of the stories about who slept with who and who loved who would at least make some sense, sort of.

      Think about it why would future Ted talk about how much he and his friend banged there Aunt Robin. This is where the story falls apart for me. It only makes sense if in the end she’s “the one” and if it doesn’t happen that way its just a silly story that would NEVER happen.

      • Wednesday, January 9th, 2013 08:28 pm GMT -4 at 8:28 pm

        the show is called: how i met your mother… if (and i say clearly IF) Robin is the mother and we meet her in season 1 ep. 1, why should we watch 9 seasons and knew just from scene 1, how ted met the mother (=Robin) right from the beginning?
        it doesn’t make sense that Robin is the mother etc because of so many hints (mother who’s sitting in Teds “economic class”,…) please..give it up ;)
        (ps: i’m from germany – not that stupid germany klaus is from- so sorry for my really bad english ;) )

        • Thursday, January 10th, 2013 11:25 am GMT -4 at 11:25 am

          I hear you Lenka, I just think the show could have been so much better if Robin and Ted ended up together. It’s just so implausable that it would transpire this way. I know it is just a TV show but boy they really missed the mark in my opinion. They had a chemistry and dynamic that kept you interested and they basically turned Robin into a slut with no respect for herself. If Barney really loved her as he claimed in season 4 he WOULDN’T have been able to continue to sleep and manipulate women and he WOULD have devoted all of his time prooving that he was the right guy for her. It’s just a ridiculous premise and I can’t buy into it because there is no way it makes any sense from Ted’s, Barney’s, Robins and hell even Lily’s perspective. What’s a shame is the show is funny but they could have been so much more, the writers blew it. Just my opinion

    73. Friday, January 11th, 2013 09:10 pm GMT -4 at 9:10 pm

      I am sure it probably has been brough up before but I have to ask.

      Does anyone know if there are any Mother theories out there that have one of Robin’s friends as the future Mrs. Ted Mosby?

      That would explain why Robin gets along with the mother.

      We have not seen very many of Robin’s friends over the years.

      I only remember Jessica Glitter.

    74. Saturday, January 12th, 2013 05:06 am GMT -4 at 5:06 am

      I remember “whoo” club and one woman, who always gets dump. From the first season, she were there several times.

    75. Saturday, January 12th, 2013 11:13 pm GMT -4 at 11:13 pm

      I’ve been watching the series through from the start again recently.

      The woo girls are actually friends of Lily’s, or at least the other teacher is. I assume the other gals are that teacher’s friends. Robin met them and hung out with them when she was having a rough time, but I don’t see them playing any role in the future because she’ll be marrying Barney.

      In the Pilot and Zip Zip Zip we see Robin’s blond friend. In both episodes she is at the bar with her because she was dumped. In Zip^3 she hooks up with a guy, letting Robin hang out with Barney leading the Battleship game. If their wedding is where Ted meets the mother, we owe a lot to this blonde gal who can’t keep a guy.

      I’ve been bummed out by silly continuity things even early that I shouldn’t even been thinking about. Like in Game Night, they are supposed to drink when they say “what” and there are at least 3 times in that episode where someone says “what” and no one catches it.

      And I think they mess up who is on the top and the bottom bunk in college. When they talk about it, it is one way, but in the flashback it is the opposite. And when Marshall talks about miracles in the season 3 finale, he talks about the pencil in Barney’s nose at the bar, but when they ret-con Doug into the scene, they switch up where everyone is sitting. Nothing that matters, but it bumming me out.

    76. tom
      Monday, January 14th, 2013 10:43 am GMT -4 at 10:43 am

      -> And I think they mess up who is on the top and the bottom bunk in college. When they talk about it, it is one way, but in the flashback it is the opposite.

      They were baked out of their minds (sorry, eating sandwiches) most of the time in college, it is amazing they can remember ANYTHING, let alone how close to the truth those memories are :)

      It was pretty obvious how it was going to end though (although we did know that Barney and Robin would be getting married in the last episode of the season). Regardless, I was still happy for the two of them when Robin finally said “yes”.

    77. Monday, January 14th, 2013 01:29 pm GMT -4 at 1:29 pm


      If you would like to see a clip of tonights episode that contains a big spoiler I will e-mail it to you. I can not post it here because the episode title is in the link. Anyway it is a suprise giveaway in the clip. If you can wait for tonights episode that would be even more special.

      I am sure it will be talked about after the episode airs tonight.

      Just if you can watch the episode live tonight please do.

      I know in the Farhamton clip of the Yellow Umbrella, at the train station, it was probably not the actress that will play the final mother. It is not Victoria or Robin or etc. but the way she stood there reminded me of the way they dressed out Ashley Williams as Victoria or Sarah Chalk as Stella. Very Elegant and sophisticated purple outfit. Those of you who years ago guessed the Yellow Purple color theme sure are correct.

    78. Monday, January 14th, 2013 09:20 pm GMT -4 at 9:20 pm

      Robin’s Dad OOPs

      I did send you a Facebook invite.

      …I posted it on Facebook.

      But no invite H A R S H.

    79. Monday, January 14th, 2013 09:30 pm GMT -4 at 9:30 pm

      So did you Guys like the ENDING OF THE EPISODE TONIGHT.

      How many of you saw that coming.

      So the Title Band or DJ was more important to Ted.

      Like I said we will be able to go back and see a lot.

    80. Monday, January 14th, 2013 10:29 pm GMT -4 at 10:29 pm

      Loved it. Can’t wait to hear solo and Ross’s recaps.

    81. Monday, January 14th, 2013 10:34 pm GMT -4 at 10:34 pm

      Am I the only one who doesn’t want a season 9? Sooo close.

      • Tuesday, January 15th, 2013 04:00 am GMT -4 at 4:00 am

        lol on this site, you might be… i for one am psyched

      • Tuesday, January 15th, 2013 09:57 am GMT -4 at 9:57 am

        i don’t want a season 9, either. especially now that it seems like season 8 finale will be the wedding. how many episodes now are going to be dragged out? sorry but i’m not interested in any marvin/LAME and endless wedding planning storylines right now!

    82. Tuesday, January 15th, 2013 02:49 am GMT -4 at 2:49 am


      my mind is blown

      The emotion in this episode, I’m at a loss for words.

      Bays and Thomas knock it out of the park.

      I’ll leave it there for now.

    83. Tuesday, January 15th, 2013 02:55 am GMT -4 at 2:55 am

      absolutely loved it
      so so so much
      great episode

    84. Tuesday, January 15th, 2013 04:15 am GMT -4 at 4:15 am

      Nice episode :) But I didn t laught….

      • Tuesday, January 15th, 2013 06:49 pm GMT -4 at 6:49 pm

        Who cares? Who’s watching it for laughs? Not me. It’s hearty mix of emotions, logic twists, teasers unexpected connections and what nots.

    85. Tuesday, January 15th, 2013 09:30 am GMT -4 at 9:30 am

      Wow, what an outstanding episode! It made me laugh out loud and cry as well. I think a few thins are to note, Ted-wise:

      1) So, the finale for season 8 is the wedding! They clearly stated the wedding date, this May. Does that mean that we get a whole season with the Mother? I wonder how they play that out.

      2) I tried to see if Robin still had a ring when she was dancing with her dad at the wedding, but couldn’t tell. If they indeed got married, I wonder why Ted had his hand bandaged up at the firt episode this season at the train station. Does that mean the fight is not wedding related? Or something completely different?

      3) So cool that many of us knew the mother would be playing at the wedding!

      On another note, brilliant acting by Allyson. Wow, Lily was amazing tonight! So much emotion only a real actress could portray.

      • Tuesday, January 15th, 2013 09:31 am GMT -4 at 9:31 am

        Sorry for the typos, iPhone!

      • Tuesday, January 15th, 2013 11:05 am GMT -4 at 11:05 am

        @ Maria I think that the best place for the Wedding would be the ending of Season 8. Bays and Thomas might disagree and put the wedding off into Season 9 with a flash forward at the end of 8.

        I think it would be presented like the Punch Kelley Wedding. Possible first Episode of Season 9 and End Season 9 with Ted/Mother Wedding in 2014 and a shot of the mother pregnant with their daughter.

        Remember we had a shot of her (the baby) in 2015 Trilogy time and; that was most likely end of spring beginning of summer. It could be a May 2014 honeymoon conception.

        If the wedding is at the end of Season 8 it will be a late Episode to air on CBS. If we go back and look I am not sure HIMYM had a Season end in June. May 25th is a Saturday so they could keep an episode for Monday May 27th.

        I have the narration for that episode in my head. When the Episode 13 show review comes out I will share my thoughts.

    86. Tuesday, January 15th, 2013 09:41 am GMT -4 at 9:41 am

      Just a quick heads-up. We’re still sorting out access to the site here, so Jordan’s still uploading recaps for us. I shot him my recap just a few min ago, so hopefully we’ll see it up later today or tomorrow. :)

    87. Tuesday, January 15th, 2013 06:33 pm GMT -4 at 6:33 pm

      I laughed at loud at the confetti. It seems immature, but I laughed anyway.

      • Tuesday, January 15th, 2013 06:55 pm GMT -4 at 6:55 pm

        I think the confetti was a very nice way of handling it. Real confetti instead of confetti confetti would have made it a bit too grisly for the show. The show is in it self a nice assortment of candies, so it would go down badly to mix up the candy with confetti. And with confetti I don’t mean confetti, but confetti, if you get my meaning.

        • Tuesday, January 15th, 2013 07:02 pm GMT -4 at 7:02 pm

          lol yes indeed…i giggled at that :)
          i see the show going steadily up

    88. Tuesday, January 15th, 2013 07:13 pm GMT -4 at 7:13 pm

      The show is definitely getting exiting.
      one thing i wonder is: where’s Robin’s mother? Have we ever seen her or gotten any gen about her? Also, what about Lily’s mother? We saw here at the shower towards the end of season 2, but as far as I know that’s the only time.
      The end part of this episode was high class HIMYM of the best kind. Mrs Marshall Ericsson (note the correct spelling of Ericsson, don’t understand why they keep insisting on messing it up in the show). aka Lily was amazing and the closing scene in the subway train … very nicely connecting a bunch of threads in the weave.
      The show is dangerous. It’s making me soft. Not good at all.

      • Tuesday, January 15th, 2013 08:10 pm GMT -4 at 8:10 pm

        really its giving me hope…i can relate to the characters and (pathetically) see them as friends and if they can do it and wait 8 years, i can get through my miserable year…

        but i guess i can see… i’m going back to being soft lol

        • Wednesday, January 16th, 2013 04:58 am GMT -4 at 4:58 am

          yes, I know what you mean (btw. Out of curiosity, you male or female? I pegged you initially for a male, but now I got the feeling your a female). I’ve passed the half-century mark, but I’ll be darned, the show is despite that kind of waking my hopes too, and I do have a romance brewing in my life, and it does somehow resonate with the show. This is weird times I’m living in.
          Well, sigh, I hope I’ll get my bearings back the way they should be again when everything gets back to normal with the introduction of the serial killer.

        • Thursday, January 17th, 2013 05:52 pm GMT -4 at 5:52 pm

          i am a female… guess i’m just a great bro if i got pegged as a male… lol
          i have not yet crossed the 25 year old mark but being in my last year of law school… its that time in life when you need life to be moving well and it seems to be crashing…

          so Ted gives me hope

          and don’t worry, i think the killer may be revealed by the wedding

        • Thursday, January 17th, 2013 06:06 pm GMT -4 at 6:06 pm

          25 was a rough year for me, too. Don’t worry. You get through it and get to a good year. Then you hit another shitty year at some point in the future, get through that, and go on to better years.

          That’s one of the great strengths of the show: it shows the characters going through many of the common adversities you face from your mid-20s to your mid-30s.

        • Friday, January 18th, 2013 01:44 am GMT -4 at 1:44 am

          was mostly the nick and the gravatar (it is obvious it is a female if one looks, but out of the corner of the eye or at a glance, when you don’t make out the figure, it gives off a male vibe). And from one who passed 25 before you even were (un)planned, believe me, your perspective will be different with time, rough spots in life are, surprise, part of life, don’t get hung up on them, but move on. And yeah, that’s a great thing with the show, it shows both good and bad but keeps the positive outlook, so do keep your hopes up and keep a positive outlook. Life’s an adventure, and treated as such, it is (and ought to be) quite fun.

        • Friday, January 18th, 2013 03:39 am GMT -4 at 3:39 am

          thank you both for the words of wisdom :)
          i’ll try to have a more positive look :) lol

          and yea the name is a feminine name in the Arabic/Urdu language…

      • Tuesday, January 15th, 2013 08:59 pm GMT -4 at 8:59 pm

        Nice to hear from you Dolf. Yes so many call backs in this one episode. I have been e-mailing them to friend because I wanted to wait for the show review before posting. Anyway had to share a story similar to this episode below. We do have to watch out for the dangerous traps the writers spring on us.

        As Barney once said de-lightful.

        • Wednesday, January 16th, 2013 05:00 am GMT -4 at 5:00 am

          Yupp, the end scene was a downright epiphany. And now I’m really hungry for more episodes.

    89. Tuesday, January 15th, 2013 08:51 pm GMT -4 at 8:51 pm

      Season 5 episode 4

      At the end of the episode Ted reads Barney a poem about Tweed.

      Ted: hey Barney, I got a little poem for you. You want to hear it.

      Barney looks disinterested in Ted’s story and mumbles: oh not really… Ted reads it anyway. (roles are reversed)

      Barney says to Ted: no way you made that up. (girl calls to Ted from his bedroom door). Are you coming back to bed professor.

      Barney stumbles like he was just punched in the groin.

      Ted’s answer: god I love being single.

      Que. Robin entering from her bedroom heading for the kitchen: Barney you ready for brunch with Lily and Marshall?

      Barney looks around like waking suddenly from a nightmare and says: what have I done.

      The story of the sexless inn keeper.

      So the reason I bring up this story is the same thing applies now. Barney is already showing signs of freaking out. Ted has been on a self imposed dry spell while completing his GNB skyscraper.

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