• Season 8, Episode 15: P.S. I Love You

    by  • Tuesday, February 5th, 2013 08:54 pm GMT -4 • Episode Discussion, Season 8 • 58 Comments

     

    Wow! THAT was a hell of an episode! Let’s dive right in, shall we?

    What Was Good

    Well, the jokes were all spot-on funny. I loved Barney’s gradual Canadian accent, for starters. But that was just the tip of the iceberg. The Robin-turns-into-Alanis-Morissette thing was HYSTERICAL. Doubly so with the Dave Coulier jokes. Which then got compounded by the Bob Saget voiceover! And they even got the guy who used to do VH1 Behind the Stars!! (By the way, I’ve seen Much Music — in the States. It happened on this weird Channel 7 in Philly back in the early 90s…but I digress.) All the Canadian stars were hysterical, too. I particularly loved Geddy Lee’s appearance, but that’s because I’m a Rush fan.

    What?! They’re really talented!! Shut up.

    Anyway, I loved all that stuff. A good friend of mine is a HUGE Alanis Morissette fan, and although she doesn’t regularly watch the show, I told her she HAS to watch this one. I laughed out loud several times. The 90s video and the prediction of a creepy naked old guy had me rolling. I’ve seen other videos that, in many respects, I’d consider more “90s,” but that one was up there.

    On the Ted front, I like the direction they’re taking him, but we’ll get to that more in the longer discussion. Lastly, overall, I felt this episode continues the solid balance of stories among the characters, although Lily and Marshall were a little under-used. Still, the debunking of how they met and Lily’s montage of door-knocking was awesome.

    What Was Not As Good

    I already mentioned that Lily and Marshall felt a bit underused. I’m also a little conflicted on the balance between the Ted and Robin/Barney storyline. Both seemed to be competing for the time, and there was no clear “A” and “B” story. Both could’ve been “A” stories for their importance to the overall arc, but “B” stories in terms of how much time each was given. Still, I get the scheduling issues involved here. I wanted to see more of each, story but I also recognize we’re running short of time this season. Also, I really DON’T like Ted’s new girl, Jeanette. But that’s to be expected, I suppose. I don’t think you’re supposed to like her. So, good job on that, I guess? I hope she doesn’t last more than 3-4 episodes.

    General Discussion (feel free to salute)

    So, first, I hear some folks saying this was the best episode EVAR in the history of the show and…yeah, I’m just gonna nip that one in the bud. Nope. Not THE best but it was up there, I’ll grant you. Still, the original Slapsgiving? The original Robin Sparkles? The episode with the funeral for Marshall’s father?! Come on people, we’ve seen way better across the board. So, definitely a good one, but not THE best episode. Let’s keep it in perspective.

    Second, the Robin and Barney thing. I’m of two minds on this. On the one hand, I get that they have to get to the damn church already. On the other, I think this episode did a good job of showing how, for as much as they know each other, there’s still a LOT they don’t know. We’ve seen plenty about Robin’s dad, but not heard a ton about her mom — and the one guy who talked about all the problems with Barney saying SURE he’d heard about them (and obviously hadn’t) really highlighted this point. I’ll say that this does help lay the groundwork for much of the legitimate doubt these two will have, though. I suppose that’s a good thing. I always expected that their doubts would be just silly cold feet kinda stuff, but this is legit and they’re taking a risk. I still think they’ll make a great couple over time (or can, assuming they can explain away the whole Exploding Meatball Sub no-rings-in-the-flash-forwardto-2021 thing), but anyway, yeah, this could get interesting.

    Also getting interesting is Ted’s situation. Seriously, dude, WHAT are you thinking? Actually, don’t answer that. I know what you’re thinking. It’s nice to be adored. At least initially. Particularly for a guy like Ted who still holds out hope for “destiny” (and is willing to manufacture it at times), I get why someone’s interest in him to this degree would at least be attractive at the outset. But dude, she’s got the crazy eyes. We all know it. But hey, maybe this will convince Ted stop trying to force destiny, and that’ll be a good thing. Here’s hoping they make the most of Jeanette’s lunacy. Anyone wanna lay odds on us hearing the line “I’m not gonna be IGNORED, Ted”? Oh, and a friend of mine pointed out that, if you look in the background in Jeanette’s apartment, in the final scene with her and Ted, there are these ceramic facial features hung up on the wall (nose, mouth, ears). She thought they looks suspiciously like Ted’s nose…and mouth…and ears….hmmmm….. The episode is up on CBS’ website, so you can go have a look for yourselves. I did, and I think my friend might be on to something.

    And I guess Marshall has a VCR, since Ted’s was destroyed, but Barney’s VHS copy of the Robin Daggers story. I suppose this makes sense if you consider the tape collection Marshall and Lily have…

    Oh, one final housekeeping note:

    We’re starting to see a lot of news pop up about the show and its future, so I’m gonna ask that people PLEASE REFRAIN FROM POSTING SPOILERS. Some folks want to stay in the dark. Go ahead and peruse the intarwbz to your hearts’ content, but please don’t post actual discussions of things like plot developments, casting news, or episode titles (which change frequently, by the way). Links are ok as long as the link itself doesn’t say something like “http://www.spoilerz.com/HIMYM/Olsen-Twins-Cast-As-The-Mother-ZOMG-Big-Spoiler.” Either learn how to type custom links, (See? Not that hard.) and hide the news, or just don’t post ‘em. If we can ever figure out how to add a separate section on here to discuss spoilers (as opposed to theories), we’ll add one, but until that time, let’s keep the spoiler discussions off of the episode recaps. Thanks!

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    58 Responses to Season 8, Episode 15: P.S. I Love You

    1. Tuesday, February 5th, 2013 08:57 pm GMT -4 at 8:57 pm

      Sorry it was so late getting this up tonight. If there are any typos etc. let me know at hymvictoria@live.com and I will fix them.

      We will have a spoiler section up soon so any suggestions for it would also be great.

    2. Tuesday, February 5th, 2013 09:43 pm GMT -4 at 9:43 pm

      The Morrisette/Sparkles parody is so very spot on. I remember watching Alanis with a young Matt Leblanc in one of her pop princess videos and then almost over night the curly hair and bubble gum sound was gone in favour of a grunge sound and lots of anger. I couldn’t take Jagged Little Pill seriously with the pop princess image still fresh in my head. I loved the Getty Lee Spots and K.D. Lang plus Alan Thicke is always a favourite. And yes I’m from Canada, and we’re awesome up here.

      As for Ted’s new love interest I’m interested to see how long it takes before he sees the crazy/hot scale with clear eyes.

      • Wednesday, February 6th, 2013 07:57 am GMT -4 at 7:57 am

        I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: any country that gave the world poutine is alright by me!

        • Thursday, February 7th, 2013 08:50 am GMT -4 at 8:50 am

          Have never tested poutine (had no clue what it was, hadto look it up), but Neil Young, Donald Sutherland and Ice Hockey is as good a reason as any to love the land.

        • Thursday, February 7th, 2013 09:48 am GMT -4 at 9:48 am

          Then you, sir, have never tasted ambrosia.

    3. Tuesday, February 5th, 2013 09:58 pm GMT -4 at 9:58 pm

      So funny- why do Lily and Marshall still have a VHS player in 2013?

      • Wednesday, February 6th, 2013 06:32 pm GMT -4 at 6:32 pm

        People still make fun of me for having a VCR. I don’t have a cable plan with a DVR so I use a VCR to tape stuff, but I’m always taping over it, so I don’t really save recordings. This will probably sound funnier given that my VCR is actually a combo VCR/DVD player and I was given a blue ray player for Christmas.

        I was using my computer as a DVR until comcast went fully digital and my usb tuner no longer works. It took up a lot of storage space though.

        Maybe I’m cheap like Ted but I don’t see the point in renting a DVR through the cable company. It is pure profit for them. Maybe you can buy stand alone ones without a subscription like Tivo, but I haven’t seen it yet.

    4. Wednesday, February 6th, 2013 12:26 am GMT -4 at 12:26 am
    5. Wednesday, February 6th, 2013 12:42 am GMT -4 at 12:42 am

      In my opinion, this episode was ok. I guess I want the story to move forward and feel like I’m watching a snail race. I love the show, but hurry up already. If future Ted is wasting so much time telling this story (while going off tangent), this mother must be the most amazing woman to have ever lived. Will she live up to all the hype the show has created for the pas 8 years? The creators owe the fans at least a season (9) showing the relationship with Ted.

    6. JBP
      Wednesday, February 6th, 2013 02:02 am GMT -4 at 2:02 am

      I loved this episode. I thought the majority of it hit perfectly. (The Tim Horton’s bit was brilliant, as were the cameos.)

      I agree they need to move the story along, and I think that Jeanette is just a bump in the road, but man does she have the crazy eyes. (And looks a little like a younger Drew Barrymore, I thought.)

      Just my thoughts.

    7. ERR
      Wednesday, February 6th, 2013 04:02 am GMT -4 at 4:02 am

      Jeanette is played by Abby Elliott, who is Chris Elliott’s daughter, who is Lily’s father on the show. Ergo, Jeanette is Lily’s sister.

      Or something like that.

      • Wednesday, February 6th, 2013 04:14 am GMT -4 at 4:14 am

        I like to call her the real Lily

    8. Wednesday, February 6th, 2013 04:19 am GMT -4 at 4:19 am

      I need to rewatch the episode before I can comment fully, but as of right now booooooooooooooooooooo.

      Apparently I disagree with many of you. Maybe I only like the odd numbered Robin Sparkles stuff, (1 and 3) but I just felt like it was too self-indulgent. We’ve had no evidence to this point that Robin was THAT big of a start in Canada that all of these famous people would be contributing to a special about her.

      And worst of all, in my opinion, they ruined Marshall and Lily’s story of how they met, which they make such a big deal of several times, but never more than How I Met Everyone Else. Now if somehow, in someway, it leads to a storyline that shows us that Ted and the mother didn’t need a magical story about how they met, I MIGHT be ok with it, but come on, Ted is billing it as the best love story ever. Sigh. More hopefully tomorrow, after I’ve watched it again, but right now we are moving in the total opposite direction of the great episodes a few weeks ago, in my opinion.

      • Wednesday, February 6th, 2013 09:56 am GMT -4 at 9:56 am

        I don’t think they ruined Marshall and Lily’s story. I just think they demystified it.

        I tend to think that couples have kind of a romanticized “fairytale” version of how they met and got together, and then there’s the more down-to-earth version with all the bumps in the road and the ups and downs. Most of the time, when talking to new folks, they tell the “fairytale” version.

        In a way, I think the demystifying of Lily and Marshall’s story is more about how destiny gives you an opportunity, but you’ve got to be ready to take it. Destiny opens the door, but you’ve gotta step through it yourself and actually make an effort; it doesn’t just drop a solution in your lap. And that, to my way of thinking, is real life. Part of Ted’s problem, I think, has been that he’s been all caught up in the fairytale version of romance and how it “should” go, failing to recognize that that’s not how life works. I’ll give you examples of what I’m talking about in romanticized and demystified styles.

        Romanticized:

        “Kids, the funny thing about destiny is that sometimes you just have to wait long enough for it to work out. I had barely missed meeting your mother several times over the span of almost a decade. Love Solutions, the St. Paddy’s Day party, my first day of teaching, dating Cindy, etc. You know, she was even outside the bar when I met your Aunt Robin. But on that train platform in Farhampton, it all finally came together. She saw me reading a book that she loved, and I saw her umbrella. I said how I used to have an umbrella like that, and she laughed. I got her number that night, and called her the next day. One year later, we were married, and not long after that, you were born, Leia.”

        Demystified:

        “Kids, I’d barely missed meeting your mother several times over almost a decade, but she’d seen me a few times. She knew me as the guy who blew her off on a Love Solutions date, the pretentious professor who made an ass of himself in front of NOT his first class, and the sonofabitch who stole her umbrella. When I joked that I used to have an umbrella like that, on that Farhampton train station, she was…well…not impressed with me. I got her number that night…from Cindy, whom I managed to convince should give it to me so I could pay for a new amplifier after I accidentally fell during my Best Man speech and put my hand through hers. It took me two months of groveling before she’d finally consent to a date with me…but I didn’t give up. I knew it was meant to be, and by the end of that date, she was…well, ok, she was still unconvinced, but was coming around to the idea.”

        But think about it this way: does the demystified version make it any less romantic that you now have a happy couple that are over the moon for each other? Isn’t THAT the part that counts more, not the mystical “everything fell into place” meeting? Maybe the point of Ted’s story to his kids is first to let them know who their old man was and how he got to be who he is today, but also to show them how love in the real world isn’t a fairytale. You can tell the story that way, but the truth is it’s never quite that simple. Even if you hit it off and it works from day 1, someone still has to pick up the phone and set up a first date, and there WILL be bumps in the road during the courtship and after the wedding too. And all of that is ok if what you have at the end of it is a real, working marriage that makes you both happy.

        • Wednesday, February 6th, 2013 10:45 am GMT -4 at 10:45 am

          Very well said Solo. Nice comparison of Two paths Ted could be taking this next Season with the Mother. He has either messed up a few to learn the lessons or is just one of those people who never see a relationship for what it is. For me a little work a little love a little patients. I think there is probably a Bible Chapter about it around the time of Lily and Marshall’s Wedding plans.

          and about the Serial Killer reference in Ring UP. You said something about the story BOB. Hope that helps Chanira.

        • Wednesday, February 6th, 2013 06:26 pm GMT -4 at 6:26 pm

          I do appreciate that perspective Solo. It gives me something to think about. Off the top of my head, a couple of things come to mind.

          1. Demystifying could be a good thing, but if that’s really what they are going for, they missed the mark. Sure it isn’t romanticized now, but Lily and Marshall’s story is now very sitcommy, which I don’t think is any better. If they really want to tell us and Ted that it isn’t going to be a big romantic gesture and that you need to take fate into your own hands at time, they could have done a lot more to show us that in a realistic way, including a flash forward to something about the actual meeting of Ted and the mother (at this point I’d love to see more teases of that).
          2. yes, the couple being in love is what matters, but honestly, I would be disappointed if Ted had to win over the mother as much as he did with Robin. Ted did all that work, and Robin wasn’t the right one. Sure, like you said, there will be rough spots, but if the mother isn’t into Ted, I will be disappointed.

          Perhaps I resonate too much with Ted. Perhaps our resident Sensitive Nice Guy would slap me around for being too idealistic, but after all these years of following Ted on this journey, I want a good pay off, and if we can’t get realistic I’ll take romanticized over sitcommy any day.

        • Thursday, February 7th, 2013 08:59 am GMT -4 at 8:59 am

          I don’t even think Lily’s door-to-door demystifies their meeting. Since Lily goes through the trouble of finding Marshal, and then they do click when she does, it kind of plays into the destiny as i see it. If they just randomly met by chance and click, the click would also be a random chance click.
          Since Lily actually engineered the meeting, I rather see it as Lily felt “the wings of destiny”, that Marshal was the right man for her, and she did her part to make Marshal find her. Though not simultaneous, there’s an instant affection for the other from both sides. Right?

        • Thursday, February 7th, 2013 09:11 am GMT -4 at 9:11 am

          @Proffessor
          I don’t think Ted will have to “win over” YM.
          As I understand it, the premise of the whole show and series is that it is based on how one of the writers (forgot which one) met his wife, and Ted is based on him.
          As we have been told earlier, Victoria was meant to be YM if the show had only gotten 1 season. so the T&V story ought to be reminiscent of how the real life writer met his wife, which then means that the T&V-arc was a dress rehearsal for what is to come. T&V was aborted through V’s departure to Germany.
          From all what I’ve seen in the teasers and hints dropped about the T&YM-meeting so far, it follows along similar lines as the T&V-meeting. T&V got an instant connection, and I expect the instantaneousness will hold true also for TYM.
          Unless, of course, the serial killer throws a wrench in the works.

        • Thursday, February 7th, 2013 09:47 am GMT -4 at 9:47 am

          I could see some difficulty at the outset in winning her over. I mean, bear in mind, she’s not exactly seen him at his best over the years, to the extent she’s seen him at all. So, at the very least, I could see some initial skepticism.

          I mean, let’s bear in mind that, ultimately, she marries the guy, so it’s not ALL an uphill battle. But I could see there being some initial hurdles. He calls, she doesn’t call back because she’s on the road for a gig, etc.

          You’ve got to figure if she’s around for any extended period of time with Ted in Season 9 that there’s GOT to be some bumps in the road or else the show would be boring. Lily and Marshall are struggling with raising Marvin, Barney and Robin are adjusting to their new marriage….but hey, everything’s hunky-dory with Ted and [The Mother]! Yay!

          Yeah, I don’t think so. Things will go well, but EVERY relationship Ted’s been in has had bumps in the road. I could also see the writers being wary of not being able to “sell” the Mother on the audience, and so trying to keep her from dominating Season 9.

      • Isa
        Friday, February 8th, 2013 11:50 am GMT -4 at 11:50 am

        I don’t think they ruined Marshall and Lily’s story. Actually, I think it’s awesome that Lily liked Marshall so much that she did something crazy to meet him and even passed up the opportunity of having a lesbian experience. The “new” story doensn’t change the fact that it was “love at first sight” and that they were made for each other. It just makes more real.

    9. Wednesday, February 6th, 2013 07:37 am GMT -4 at 7:37 am

      I’m not gonna say, “I told you so”, I am just saying that I’ve been speaking sooth and my predictions are coming true. Still any doubters out there?
      C’mon, stalking, Robin Sparkles transformation to Robin Daggers, creepiness, dark moods, and ever Jeffrey Dahmer being mentioned repeatedly. Obviously the stage is getting set for SK to make his entrance. I just hope he doesn’t bag Amy, she’s to good a morsel to be an SK victim. (Btw. thanks to @Ross, you made my day with the good news in previous thread, and while I’m at it, yeah, I’m single, but I don’t rollerskate and I don’t read books with foreign accents, they’re either in ordinary Swedish or in standard English (unless you consider Anthony Burgess’ A Clockwork Orange being written in a foreign accent), but sure, I can have Carly as a backup in case Amy bombs out)
      Oh, and while I’m at it part two: HI @KATE! LONG TIME NO SEE!
      Sorry I didn’t answer you (@Ross & @Kate) in previous thread. Been meaning to, but alas, my hands been tied by other duties lately.
      I’ve stacked up some thoughts about the back track of the show that I hope I’ll be able to return with shortly (together with some stray input on this last episode). But for now: Anyone considered the possibility that YM and the SK is one and the same. Maybe we’ll soon meet SKYM and maybe the show ought to have been titled HIMYSKM?

      • Wednesday, February 6th, 2013 08:11 am GMT -4 at 8:11 am

        Who is SK?

        • Wednesday, February 6th, 2013 09:06 am GMT -4 at 9:06 am

          Stalker Killer…

          @Chanira, you have to go back through older Season Nine Show reviews and Read all of Dolf’s comments. The short of it is FUN and just go with it!!

          @Professor, I also want to take the time to watch the episode again before I give it my usual grade. I am reserving judgment. But there was plenty of news to get out of the episode if you look for it.

          I want to find those hidden stories. Somewhere in there is a KILLER of a story waiting to be uncovered.

        • Thursday, February 7th, 2013 08:28 am GMT -4 at 8:28 am

          We got both a Stalker K and a Serial K now? This is just getting better and better.

      • Wednesday, February 6th, 2013 09:19 am GMT -4 at 9:19 am

        Oh and Dolf, have you sent in your Mother prediction via e-mail yet for the contest. We really need to post the contest rules in a more official way. We can do that later this week.

        I just do not want to put out a new Thread above this one until we are done with the discussion. Everyone Needs to get those MOTHER ACTRESS PREDICTIONS in via e-mail to haveyoumetsolo@aol.com soon.

        and above I meant to say to Chanira season Eight Show reviews. I am still excited about what a Season Nine will bring for those of us who want to get to know the Mother.

        One thing I did not like about this episode was No explanation of the girl Ted put on a Hat for at the end of Ring UP Episode 14. I would have liked Marshall or Lily to make a comment about Ted being Barney and going after one woman then the next and the Next etc.

      • Thursday, February 7th, 2013 08:35 am GMT -4 at 8:35 am

        @Ross
        I thought you said somewhere in previous thread that Amy actually would return, but when I tried to verify I only found the comment about Scrubs and HIMYM (and btw, I’ve only seen a few random episodes of Scrubs, so didn’t now Amy had been in there, though I’m aware Stella has.) Did I dream about Amy returning or did I just not find the right comment? (I sure hope it’s not s/g I dreamed.)

        • Thursday, February 7th, 2013 09:23 am GMT -4 at 9:23 am

          If she is coming back or not I would not say it here. A spoiler section will be up soon. Probably will post it this weekend.

    10. Wednesday, February 6th, 2013 06:49 pm GMT -4 at 6:49 pm

      Your link doesn’t explain clearly how to type a custom link.

      • Thursday, February 7th, 2013 09:32 am GMT -4 at 9:32 am

        @Dandolion
        Let’s see if I can get it right here (as I can’t preview before posting, it might not come out as planned).
        Let’s say you want it like this (I am using the Wikipedia page about HIMYM as an example):

        You can find more information about this show on ”this page here” where it explains …

        then you actually write (including quote marks):

        You can find more information about this show on &”this page here”& where it explains …

        You can leave out target=”_blank” if you want, if you have it there, the click will open a new tab, if you don’t, the click will switch the current window to the place you linked to.

        • Thursday, February 7th, 2013 09:38 am GMT -4 at 9:38 am

          I use the old HTML approach, which is as follows:

          custom link text

          Delete the space between “” and the second “<" is whatever you want to type. So, if I want to point a link to this blog, but have the actual link name hidden, I'd do something like:

          Hey, check out this kickass blog!

          Aaaand I really hope that works when I post this comment….

        • Thursday, February 7th, 2013 09:40 am GMT -4 at 9:40 am

          And of course it didn’t. Dammit.

          Ok, let’s try this.

          Click on the link at the end of the recap post. Scroll down on the page it goes to, to the section that reads “HTML Link Syntax.” Then type what they tell you. :)

        • Thursday, February 7th, 2013 09:53 am GMT -4 at 9:53 am

          Didn’t see you came in between Solo before I posted my corrected one. My second (below) should work (albeit, the linebreaks should be ignored, they are not mine)

      • Thursday, February 7th, 2013 09:44 am GMT -4 at 9:44 am

        @Dandolion
        It screwed up, but this time I think I got it right:
        Let’s say you want it like this (I am using the Wikipedia page about HIMYM as an example):

        You can find more information about this show on ”this page here” where it explains …

        then you actually write (including quote marks):

        You can find more information about this show on <a href=”http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_I_met_your_mother” target=”_blank”>”this page here”</a> where it explains …

        You can leave out target=”_blank” if you want, if you have it there, the click will open a new tab, if you don’t, the click will switch the current window to the place you linked to.

        • Thursday, February 7th, 2013 02:00 pm GMT -4 at 2:00 pm

          Cool Thanks.

        • Thursday, February 7th, 2013 04:59 pm GMT -4 at 4:59 pm

          http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/02/05/how-i-met-your-mother-season-high/

          All because you are watching Dolf.

          So CBS actually took a hit after the Super Bowl. All except for HIMYM up 8 percent to 10.3 million viewers and the evenings top-rated show.

          I did notice during the Super Bowl CBS went over the top to advertise its own shows. So HIMYM had a season high Robin Sparkles Episode. I know the last episode of Season 8 will most likely top that mark.

    11. Thursday, February 7th, 2013 01:39 pm GMT -4 at 1:39 pm

      Here is what I think. The producers blew it. While this show IS funny I feel it could have been so much more. I think that what they didn’t realize or expect is that on screen Robin has way more chemistry with Ted than Barney and in my view really makes it hard to like and respect Robin wanting to be with Barney. Just watched the episode Stinson Missle Crisis again and as I’m watching Robin help Barney end all of his Plays and games I can’t help but think “how do you even like this guy romantically” Someone so close to him wouldn’t, it makes no sense. I get why everyone likes him as a friend but someone who knows him better than most could NEVER be able to trust and respect him romantically. This is where the show falls down. I don’t care how they show Barney try and redeem himself over and over again. It makes more sense for him to be involved with someone outside the group as he looks to be a decent person. Think of Robin night after night listening to his moves and conquests over and over again. Close to 300 right? Please we (the fans) are not fools.

      In the end, as a fan, you end up losing respect for Robin’s character and therefore any emotional investment in the show. For example, if Robin and Barney break up and get divorced will you feel sad or sorry for them? No way I think the way most people will react is “what did you expect?”

      The ONLY scenario that saves the show from being totally ridiculous and I admit it will take some creative TV scripting at this point is that Robin is the mother.

      Something like

      Ted/ Bob Saget: You know kids when I said at the beginning of the story that was your Aunt Robin well, I lied it was (any name here) who is as you know your mother. I just said all those other things to keep you interested in this 9 year story of how I met and married your mother

      Otherwise I think most fans have tuned out because you are wasting our time and investment in the show because none of us (the fans) bought into the RObin/ Barney premise anyway.

      Do we really thin another person is going to be OK with Robin and Ted’s history and the pinning for Robin 3 months before the wedding? And is that something you tell your kids?

      Shows waaaaay off track could have been soooo much more

      • Thursday, February 7th, 2013 02:10 pm GMT -4 at 2:10 pm

        I started watching the show in re-runs while Ted and Robin Dated (I think) I did not see Ted and Victoria from the Start. I personally did not like that Ted and Barney both Dated Robin. I do like it when shows go that way.

        I am a Ted GUY. I have had friend that are Marshall, Ted and Barney. I see how all three can hang out together. I am a Josh Ashley fan. I understand that it is not going to be Victoria or Robin (See DVDs). We are going to have a new face as the Mother.

        That said I did like Ted and Robin but not anymore. Robin is not the one for Ted. Thus I am okay with Robin and Barney. I just try not to compare the relationships. If you can just ignore it and move on because Carter and Craig are not going to write it out the way you have it above, Sorry.

        On a Second note we have a Draft page put together for our new spoiler section. Solo is going to go over what I typed up and then we will get it posted before Monday’s show.

        Keep in mind that when the Page goes up no complaints if you click into it and start reading. It is fully open for discussion on future Show news unlike this Page in the Show Review Section.

        We will post this disclaimer again right before the spoiler page goes live.

        • Thursday, February 7th, 2013 03:04 pm GMT -4 at 3:04 pm

          Understood, my point is I think they missed an opportunity to go down as one of the great comedies on TV. Seinfeld, Friends, MTM, Mash, etc.. All of those shows, while they are sitcoms and cetainly took some liberties, you could still buy into the premise and be invested. I don’t really care if Robin ends up with Ted, however, if thats the case stop having him pine for her. Let him move on and be done with it. Robin and Barney didn’t have to be together they were both strong characters that were funny apart as well. Putting them together just ruins the believability for me and maybe I’m in the minority but if I want some credibility in a sitcom if I am going to invest 9 years in it. Don’t get me wrong I am a fan and it is funny, just thinking “wow could have been one of the best” – thats all

    12. Thursday, February 7th, 2013 04:22 pm GMT -4 at 4:22 pm

      @Motherlode
      Thanks for explaining your point. It does make sense to me.

      For those Star Wars Fans
      Disney has some more ideas out there besides the next three movies. I was reading the spoiler news and came across this bit of information. The link has side bar info on other shows so click on it only if you do not care to possibly see something about a show you like.

      http://www.aceshowbiz.com/news/view/00057724.html

    13. Friday, February 8th, 2013 06:43 am GMT -4 at 6:43 am

      I also didn’t like how they changed the “how marshall and lily met” story. It was kinda fun to have a “destiny” couple. -_-
      Everything else was legend-wait for it- dary! Legendary! \m/

    14. Friday, February 8th, 2013 01:30 pm GMT -4 at 1:30 pm

      First thing first. Love the show, love this site, and thank you for feeding my HIMYM hunger mid week, every week.

      Second, I have only been on this site for a few weeks now, and I keep hearing about this “serial killer.” Could some one fill me in?

      • Friday, February 8th, 2013 01:33 pm GMT -4 at 1:33 pm

        Welcome to the site! Glad you enjoy it.

        So, the serial killer (SK) thing is a joke that dolf came up with. He’s got kind of a morbid sense of humor, and thinks that someone in the HIMYM family is a killer. Periodically he speculates on who that might be.

        I already suggested it’s Robin’s father, who is possessed by an evil spirit named BOB (which is a reference to Twin Peaks). Other guesses are equally goofy. :)

    15. Friday, February 8th, 2013 01:43 pm GMT -4 at 1:43 pm

      Awesome! That’s classic, and it would definitely turn the show on it’s head.

      My vote for the serial killer would have to be The Captian, Van Smoot. That seen with Ted and him on the boat is a classic. The picture of his face thing too.

      • Saturday, February 9th, 2013 01:16 am GMT -4 at 1:16 am

        i still say it’s Robin, though hmmm The Captain is totally a good choice

    16. Friday, February 8th, 2013 02:30 pm GMT -4 at 2:30 pm

      We’ve already seen one. Tony’s friend from school who wanted Ted to design a sound proof, non staining tile laundry room.

      “I can’t design a murderhouse!”

      The question is whether there is another one.

      • Friday, February 8th, 2013 04:30 pm GMT -4 at 4:30 pm

        You are right he was very stalker serial creepy

    17. Friday, February 8th, 2013 11:59 pm GMT -4 at 11:59 pm

      We have set up a page for those who want to discuss future show news. This spoiler Page will be open for anything HIMYM past or future. It contains open links from multiple websites. Please do not click on the link if you do not want to hear about Season 9 or episodes that have yet to air on television in season 8.

    18. Sunday, February 10th, 2013 01:32 am GMT -4 at 1:32 am

      sorry im so late, overall decent episode but not the best. for me personally i am really interested in teds new girl because future ted said everyone does one last huge mistake before they get married, for me that was Jeanetta. (he said something along those lines) so that makes me think that there is gonna be something big go down with her and ted, and for some reason i have no idea y but i think a pregnancy scare would be really mind blowing.

      and future ted saying that also makes me think that she will be the last girl he dates before he gets with the mother so i think we r getting on the final stretch and most of us just arent seeing it.

      and one last thing, i have said it once and ill say it again i like barney and robin together. lol its fine if u dont but i do and here is y, most ppl say they dont like them being together because barney is such a hound dog and no one who knows him that well would actually fall for him and to that i say take a good look at robin.

      i mean i love all the characters but if we r looking at their pasts? i mean robin has been a little hound doggish too, i mean she slept with the naked man for crying out loud. but with all of that said that is y i like them together, they have had their high and low points as human being but they both know that the other has done some things they regret so they can look past each others faults. call me silly but i think complete each other and make each other better ppl.

      and with that being said do u all really want ted to end up with someone who slept with the naked man? and barney? and several others? i dont i think ted deserves better. but like i said im not knocking any of the ppl i love robin and barney just as much as i love lily and marshall and ted.

      • Sunday, February 10th, 2013 04:44 am GMT -4 at 4:44 am

        well Ted has had his share of women..i don’t know how many he’s slept with, but he’s had his share…he’s not a little innocent boy

        with that said, i do like Robin and Barney together

        • Sunday, February 10th, 2013 05:40 pm GMT -4 at 5:40 pm

          yeah i agree with that too, everyone is a hound dog lol. but idk i still just dont want him to end up with robin cause like some ppl said before love shouldnt have to be that big of a battle. it doesnt need to be forced and with ted and robin it was forced so i like her better with barney

        • Sunday, February 10th, 2013 06:32 pm GMT -4 at 6:32 pm

          @CCBHIMYM,

          That’s kind of my point about them. With Ted, it was like Robin was everything he wanted…except not. She’s got a ton of qualities about her that Ted loves, it’s true. But she’s also got qualities about her that make her really NOT ideal for Ted. She’s far too guarded and emotionally independent. Ted would probably say she’s aloof, and she’d probably say Ted’s needy. That right there is a fundamental difference. And we haven’t even gotten to the kids thing yet. Robin, to her credit, knew that Ted would always feel like a part of him was missing, like he should have and could have been something more than he was (namely, a father) if he was with Robin. Not only can she not have kids, she doesn’t want them.

          I know we’ve seen Barney being open and positive to the idea of kids, but I can’t help but wonder how genuine that is. Does he want kids, or did he just sort of want to be someone other than “The Barnacle,” and figured “Ok, I’ll be a daddy, then.” I tend to think the latter. Or to the extent that it’s the former, I tend to think Barney, unlike Ted, would be perfectly fine not having kids.

          He’d probably say “That might’ve been cool, but I’ve got the most awesome woman in the world as my wife. I don’t have anything to complain about.” Ted might say something similar…but it’d be a lie. Much as he loves Robin, part of his identity is being a dad — even though he doesn’t have kids yet.

          So, you’ve got the “love style” differences in terms of how each finds fulfillment emotionally, and you’ve got the kids thing. Right there, those are two CRUCIAL things that are (or ought to be) flat-out dealbreakers between Robin and Ted. With Barney? Not really an issue.

    19. Monday, February 11th, 2013 12:17 am GMT -4 at 12:17 am

      To follow up some previous posts regarding advise for Ted. As Jenna Elfman said in “Can’t Hardly Wait”: Destiny only takes you so far and you must do the rest. This incidentally was the film debut for Jason Segel. I had always wanted to see this movie but just saw it for the first time today and thought the quate was appropriate to where Ted is now in the story.

    20. Monday, February 11th, 2013 10:28 am GMT -4 at 10:28 am

      This link contains show Titles for episodes that have not aired yet.

      http://www.tunefind.com/show/how-i-met-your-mother/season-8

      I know it has been a while since we updated the music section of Have-You-Met-Ted.com But I wanted you to have the season 8 Music even if it was from another web site.

      I also put a link below to the original HIMYM Song Page.

      http://have-you-met-ted.com/music/how-i-met-your-mother-season-one-music/how-i-met-your-mother-theme-song/

      We are going to have to rebuild some of the links but this is a start. Some people are finding a way to the music pages. I just wanted to let you know they exist.

      Also The title for Tonights episode is at the bottom of the first link above. Do not click on it if you still have not heard the Show Title.

      Solo will have fun with this Episode so please keep you show comments ready for when we post the Review for Episode 16 Air date February 11, 2013 at 8:00 PM Easter Time US.

    21. Monday, February 11th, 2013 10:38 am GMT -4 at 10:38 am

      I don’t know about you guys, but I’m excited to see how awful Jeanette is going to get. I feel like they may make her really go over the edge.

      Tonight should be good. They have a lot to work with off of last week.

    22. Monday, February 11th, 2013 02:44 pm GMT -4 at 2:44 pm
    23. Monday, February 11th, 2013 09:04 pm GMT -4 at 9:04 pm

      No more Dating but Lots of Extra Toys.

      CooCOO CLOCK was awsome

      Robin Can you Grab him.

      Nice Start.

    24. Tuesday, February 12th, 2013 12:17 am GMT -4 at 12:17 am

      Just wanted to let everyone know we uploaded the new show Review Bad Crazy. Yes this episode was Cuckoo! I Really liked the opening. It got very CRAZy.

      http://have-you-met-ted.com/2013/season-8-episode-16-bad-crazy/

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