• Season 8, Episode 16: Bad Crazy

    by  • Monday, February 11th, 2013 11:16 pm GMT -4 • Episode Discussion, Season 8 • 88 Comments

                   Well now.  That was…unexpected.  I’ll admit, it caught me off guard and I’m having to process it.  Great episode, on the whole, but in terms of its place in the larger arc…yeah, having to sort through this one.  So, bear with me.

    What Was Good

                I actually think this was one of the funnier episodes in recent memory.  Not as good as last week’s, but in terms of the ha-ha funny, yeah, this was pretty good.  The use of Mike Tyson was funny, too.  Great cameo.  I’m glad they didn’t make a joke about ears when he said the “I could just eat you up” bit to Marvin.  That would’ve just been cheap.  Although, show of hands, who here had that same thought?  Right.  Me too.  Which is why we don’t write for top-rated sitcoms, I guess…but I digress.  I also loved the use of the Boba Fett outfit and — anyone else catch this? — the return of one of the two crossed swords that Ted and Marshall had on the wall of the apartment.  Oh, and the cuckoo clock bit was funny, too.  Lastly, nice to see the kids — Marvin, too — again. 

    What Was Not As Good

                While I liked the storyline with Robin, and appreciate her softening (and the potential that opens up — more on that in a second), I found the pacing of it and the gag of “X years later” to be a bit…hmm..weak?  Disruptive?  Something like that.  I kept wanting to get back to the Ted bit, which seemed like the “A” story, but the use of the “B” story felt like it was interrupting, rather than playing into.  I wonder if this is one of the episodes they rejiggered after the S9 announcement? 

                And a few other criticisms, some more niggling than others.  First, Barney and Marshall felt…lame in this episode.  I gotta say, I saw less good-natured ribbing in their behavior, and more smug “We’re not single, but you are” attitude.  I’ll touch on that a bit more later.  Also, interesting how they’ve played with future-everyone’s makeup.  Remember when Lily 10 years later had put on weight and had bad hair, and Marshall was bald?  Maybe she had work done…  Robin we KNOW had work done.  Mostly at Barney’s insistence, I’m sure.  Anyway, lastly, Jeanette…Ok, she’s hot.  Admittedly.  But she fails the Vicky Mendoza Diagonal test.  She is not SO hot that you’d expect a guy to put up with that level of crazy. 

                Which brings us to Ted, which….yeah, you know what?  I’m just gonna skip ahead here.  Get comfy.  You know what, get a snack, THEN get comfy. 

    Further Thoughts

                Sweet sassy molassy, Ted, what the bloody hell are you doing?!?!  Well, actually, I think I get it.  I’ll try to explain, because it took me a good bit of thinking and some Macallan 10 Year Fine Oak to figure it out.  Here goes.

                First, I know folks don’t like it and want to smack the crap out of Ted.  That was my initial response, too.  Ted.  Tedward.  Teddles.  To paraphrase Frank Zappa, “Ted Mosby…honey…what’s got into ya?”  Well, I think I know.  Actually, I’ve got a few theories, and I’m not entirely sure how the show will play it.  One’s a bit more goofy/funny/upbeat.  The other is considerably darker.  I can’t tell which is going on right now, or if there’s something else I’m missing.

                So, Theory 1 goes as follows: Ted does enjoy dating.  The intro to this week’s episode touches on this.  It’s fun, and by now he’s fairly good at it, at least at the early stages.  Casual dating poses no challenge and some reasonable upside of, you know, gettin’ some.  So, you know, low risk, decent reward, what the hell, right?  It’s just fun, and where’s the crime in that, right?  He can always look for The Mother with the next girl, or while he’s killing time with whatever random chick he’s dating casually, right?  Well, no, wrong.  If you got for the easy, quick-fix, you’re distracted and NOT looking for what’s got more long-term potential.  I think Ted’s forgotten that, and it will take him finally having an experience where the risk far exceeds the meager reward before he says “No more dating.  I’m ready to get serious.”  Sometimes, in the course of one’s dating experience, you need either a sufficiently BAD or a sufficiently unsatisfying experience in the “just fun” category before you say “Enough of this crap.  Let’s get serious.” 

                Theory 2, though, brings the pain.  See, I could see where Ted is in BAD shape right now.  Not really showing it overtly (as he often doesn’t), but engaged in some seriously self-destructive behavior.  Not at the level of “No Tomorrow,” though.  Worse, actually.  In “No Tomorrow,” he was at least enough of a dick in the course of one evening that he could look at himself and be ashamed.  In this, I think it’s more sort of a slow creep that is gradually eating away at his sense of self confidence and even his own sense of identity.

                See, I suspect Ted’s always viewed himself as “marriage material.”  Except…he’s not married.  Instead, he’s the last single member of his group.  And meanwhile, his friends kind of look down on him.  Robin and Barney are busy planning a wedding, Marshall and Lily are raising Marvin…and Ted’s just…single.  I think there’s gotta be a degree to which he views this as massively unfair, as far far less than he deserves, and as a result, he’s just kind of giving up.  Moreover, I think if Theory 2 is accurate, he’s…angry.  Really REALLY angry.  He’s not showing it because, let’s face it, aside from crying at movies (and lots of other stuff) Ted’s not a guy who usually lets out his “bad” feelings.  He bottles that stuff up and it’s only when he’s pushed that he finally


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    88 Responses to Season 8, Episode 16: Bad Crazy

    1. Monday, February 11th, 2013 11:46 pm GMT -4 at 11:46 pm

      Just a quick FYI, folks. We’ll get a picture up soon. CBS hasn’t uploaded them to the website yet, but we wanted to get the recap up ASAP.

    2. Tuesday, February 12th, 2013 12:57 am GMT -4 at 12:57 am

      I truly believe that Ted lost all confidence in himself when Barney got engaged to Robin. First off, it is BARNEY of all people getting married(i know there was quinn but still, that crashed and burned). Secondly, it is Robin, the one he truly loves that he just can’t have.

      This crazy cop chicka actually wants him. I think he is going to relish in that feeling as long as he can to make himself feel… wanted again. Like Lily told him, get the crazy out. I think that was her way of saying, I know shits got you down, but pick yourself up and when you are ready dump this girl and get serious again.

      Just my 2 cents

    3. Tuesday, February 12th, 2013 03:30 am GMT -4 at 3:30 am

      I agree, while I enjoyed the episode, it kind of took away from the “omggggg this is amazing” arc.

      i agree with theory 2 as well…and i think he really does actually LOVE those boots.

      also wow, isn’t marvin THE cutest thing ever!?!?!

    4. Zy
      Tuesday, February 12th, 2013 08:20 am GMT -4 at 8:20 am

      I think Robin warming up to Marvin will become a bigger issue as the season progresses. It means that Robin is warming up to the idea of having babies, which we all know she can’t. We don’t know if she’s told Barney about it or not (we see her tell Ted, Marshall, and Lily explicitly). I’ll go out on a limb here and say that she hasn’t, and that this issue will be the reason of her having cold feet at the wedding: not so much because of Barney, but because she feels guilty for not having told him.

      • Tuesday, February 12th, 2013 08:54 am GMT -4 at 8:54 am

        Bingo. This, I think, will be the entree to Barney raising the issue. I can’t remember if he already knows she can’t have kids or what, but either way, it’s gonna be one of the more serious discussions they need to have (among others), and may be a source of the “cold feet” attitude each has on the day of the wedding.

        • Tuesday, February 12th, 2013 03:35 pm GMT -4 at 3:35 pm

          i thought he knew with the pregnancy sacre?

        • Tuesday, February 12th, 2013 03:42 pm GMT -4 at 3:42 pm

          I can’t remember, actually. I don’t recall if he knew or if Robin just said “False alarm” and left it at that.

      • Tuesday, February 12th, 2013 10:12 pm GMT -4 at 10:12 pm

        Don’t think he’s been told. I have no recollection of there actually being any hints that Barney would have gotten the gen on this issue.

    5. Tuesday, February 12th, 2013 08:56 am GMT -4 at 8:56 am

      So That is how Ted gets rid of all the stuff his old Girlfriends gave him before he finds the mother.

      Now with the Apartment in Flames, he has to move into the new house… Eventually.

      He did not say I Love You technically but mumbling what is your ring size is very close.

    6. Tez
      Tuesday, February 12th, 2013 09:29 am GMT -4 at 9:29 am

      In The Playbook (I think it was) Ted and Marshall joke about how everyone who says they’re not looking for someone finds them (or frozen waffles). Ted even says there’s no way he would be single if he actually wanted to be single. That’s where this experience ties in.

      Robin’s development was decent. We’ve seen Barney with kids, now we see Robin loving time with a kid. There’s obviously a story there and will be interesting to see how it plays out.

      On the episode itself, I thought it was weak. Really weak. The crazy chick is unbelievable, the Tyson stuff was just a cheap “celeb over substance” act, and the 4 years later crap was just, well, crap. Who thought that worked?

    7. Tuesday, February 12th, 2013 09:51 am GMT -4 at 9:51 am

      I thought the Tyson thing was about the only thing that DID work in this episode. Barney and Marshall were horrific sitcom buffoons last night, not their real characters at all. Robin finally holding the baby was reasonably cute, but nothing spectacular. Maybe it was the idea that the last 4-5 episodes were epic and big time steak sauce, but i didn’t crack a smile until the words “Senator Tyson” came out (now that was funny).

      The arc with the crazy girl (who is not even remotely hot) was just lame. i like the premise of it, but no wonder Abby Eliot was removed from SNL…not a very convincing actress. she owes a thank you to Daddy.

      and big ups to Dolf…we got a bad-ass Amy flashback (albeit brief)…that’s for you buddy :)

      • Tuesday, February 12th, 2013 05:32 pm GMT -4 at 5:32 pm

        she’s terrible. i am not looking forward to having to see her on more episodes. nepotism strikes again.

    8. Tuesday, February 12th, 2013 09:53 am GMT -4 at 9:53 am

      Did anyone notice the big red lettered word ALTERATIONS behind Robin at the dry cleaners. Robin was constantly changing her story to Lily.

    9. Tuesday, February 12th, 2013 10:46 am GMT -4 at 10:46 am

      I have to confess, the “You’re in love with Lily!” bits gave me so much lulz and happiness and yippee and yay!

      But yeah, I’m not fully understanding Ted here. And I can usually read him pretty well. Like, I understood everything with Zoey! I really did! Yeah, she had to go, and we all knew it wasn’t going to end well, but I understood what he saw in her and why he was scared to give it up, and why he found their relationship challenging, and rewarding, and beautiful. We saw past it, but I could somewhat get inside his head. Along with all the other stupid things he’s done.

      But this chick fucking barricaded herself in his ROOM! Wha…?! Dude, you can call the cops for that (even if she herself is a cop)! I just…I don’t understand…and I’m not mad at Ted, I’m really not. I understand everything you said about him feeling angry and hurt that he’s the last of the single people when by all “logical” accounts he shouldn’t be. That’s exactly spot on. And I understood him being flattered by the stalking from last episode. But NOW?! How is he so blinded as to not realize this isn’t just fucking insane but dangerous?!

      I know its the push he needs to stop fooling around. His narration in the beginning specifically says this. And I’m glad. But holy mackerel, dude, wake up! I disagree with Lily that he should keep it up until it falls apart on its own. He needs to get rid of her QUICK!

      Come on, guys! Its intervention time!

    10. Tuesday, February 12th, 2013 11:30 am GMT -4 at 11:30 am

      I actually liked this episode (and last week’s). I mean, I didn’t love them but they weren’t the worse I’ve seen. A few thoughts: Robin with Marvin was ADORABLE. I couldn’t agree more that having or not having kids will be the larger issue for her and Barney. I think they set this up nicely with last week’s episode, showing how Barney doesn’t know everything about her.

      Secondly, I feel like we are on the last leg of the journey. The flashforwards, the teasers they have been giving, even bringing in Bob Saget for more narration all seem to work to wrap up this great show and tie it with the pretty big red bow so to speak. PEOPLE- we are getting there and I am so excited to see whats in store. I know that if HIMYM puts it mind to it, they will have an amazing final season. I can feel the anticipation, even on last week’s and tonight’s episodes, which were merely fillers. Now, the fillers lend themselves to the big picture. The fillers still push the story forward which we have never seen them do before. We are almost there!!

      Also, DOLF- You got your Amy fix, how exciting! and hi again! Long time no chat.

      Lastly, I’m super worried. The serial killer infiltrated the blog and got to either Solo or Ross (not sure who posted the recap). See the last line of the recap.. “He bottles that stuff up and it’s only when he’s pushed that he finally…” The SK must have taken them out before the blog post was finished. We were getting too close with our guesses. My guess is someone was correct last week and it was either The Captain or Ted’s creepy friend with the murderhouse. Everyone, please be careful! =P

      (just kidding of course, there is no serial killer. Everyone who is super confused, please know this was a joke started by Dolf that there must be serial killer on the show. We all joke around about it.. which is actually probably not that funny or cool because serial killers aren’t so much fun.. but it is simply us being goofy. Please feel free to speculate on the existence of said non-existent SK or tell us all to zip it. No matter, enjoy yourselves here! Its a fun and free space to talk about any of your wild and crazy theories or your thoughts for each episode.)

      • Tuesday, February 12th, 2013 11:59 am GMT -4 at 11:59 am

        Ha, yeah, that was me. That’s what I get for writing this stuff up too quickly sometimes. I’ll edit the post a little later.

        • Tuesday, February 12th, 2013 12:58 pm GMT -4 at 12:58 pm

          Maybe you shouldn’t. Lends itself to the SK theory haha

          Did you ever watch strong bad opening his emails? The cut off at the end reminded of one of his weekly clips http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dd_Arl7ayMI

        • Tuesday, February 12th, 2013 01:09 pm GMT -4 at 1:09 pm

          Hahaha that was hysterical! And yeah, I’ve seen Strongbad’s stuff before. Very funny.

      • Tuesday, February 12th, 2013 03:40 pm GMT -4 at 3:40 pm

        i’m a little confused? what is this Amy thing? Did I miss something?

        • Tuesday, February 12th, 2013 03:43 pm GMT -4 at 3:43 pm

          Dolf has a thing for Amy (a.k.a. Mandy Moore) who was responsible for Ted getting the butterfly tramp stamp. He’s been holding out hope that she’s the Mother. Folks were pointing out how she got a brief cameo during Ted’s flashback of the fun he’s had while dating.

      • Tuesday, February 12th, 2013 05:13 pm GMT -4 at 5:13 pm

        Sorry guys I may have messed up the text. Solo can fix it now. Anyway great to see a solid discussion right after the show aired. Last week was a B from me but this week had an A until the end. Guess I was excited at the start and Disappointed with the ending. So I will give it a B.

        So the flash forward flame out in Teds current apartment, may finally get him to the new house! Any bets on when it will happen? Will it be on camera during a show or kind of behind the scene like the reference to the last big 2012 storm in this episode.

        Also loved the is she a cop line.

    11. Tuesday, February 12th, 2013 12:21 pm GMT -4 at 12:21 pm

      In all the flashforwards, Robin never once lifts her left hand into the frame. I was definitely looking to see if she is still wearing a wedding ring 5, 10, 15 (etc.) years down the road, but I think the show have learned from the Exploding Sub fiasco, and won’t give us that easy of an answer.

      • Tuesday, February 12th, 2013 12:29 pm GMT -4 at 12:29 pm

        I really think the Exploding Meatball Sub thing was a flub. That or they hadn’t quite planned on having them be married at that point. Or it was one of those “unreliable” flashes forward like time-traveling Marshall. But yeah, I think they try to avoid potential suggestions one way or the other now, like Barney hiding his hand on Trilogy Time.

        • Tuesday, February 12th, 2013 12:50 pm GMT -4 at 12:50 pm

          I agree Solo, they are definitely avoiding any give aways at this point. Last we see of the wedding is them both with cold feet… can’t give away that cliff hanger.

        • Tuesday, February 19th, 2013 10:24 am GMT -4 at 10:24 am

          Wow! Great observation on Trilogy Time Solo. I never even noticed that until now…Barney keep hiding his left hand and it just seem unnatural…wow! Wow! Sorry…just….mind=blown.

    12. Tuesday, February 12th, 2013 02:08 pm GMT -4 at 2:08 pm

      I think the last we see of the wedding is Robin dancing w/ her father at the reception (?).

      Robin and Barney can always adopt – like his brother did.

      • Tuesday, February 12th, 2013 05:30 pm GMT -4 at 5:30 pm

        … or not have kids. why does robin have to be a mother? why can’t we have a woman on tv OK with being child-free?

        • Tuesday, February 12th, 2013 05:51 pm GMT -4 at 5:51 pm

          Nobody’s saying they do. But I think the show is pretty clearly telegraphing that the issue will come up in the near-ish future. Robin enjoying taking care of Marvin (up to a point) may remind her of what she CAN’T do (have kids) and prompt a discussion with Barney. Where that goes….who knows. I’d bet it won’t be dealt with in just one episode, though.

      • Sam
        Monday, February 18th, 2013 03:16 am GMT -4 at 3:16 am

        I’m pretty sure future Ted has already confirmed robin does not become a mother.

    13. Tuesday, February 12th, 2013 02:22 pm GMT -4 at 2:22 pm

      Anybody else think that the last 2 slaps will be used during Barney’s wedding?

      • Tuesday, February 12th, 2013 02:32 pm GMT -4 at 2:32 pm

        I’ve thought for a LONG time that the final slap will be what brings Barney around to pulling his act together and walking down the aisle. He’ll be freaking out, Marshall will slap him, and then quietly say “That’s seven. Now, go marry her.”

        • Tuesday, February 12th, 2013 02:46 pm GMT -4 at 2:46 pm

          That would be absolutely epic!

          I’ve always thought the last one would be at the wedding, but not in that way specifically. I do hope you’re right now, though.

        • Tuesday, February 12th, 2013 03:04 pm GMT -4 at 3:04 pm

          That would be awesome. I was thinking something like right after he kisses robin he gets slapped with an echoing “That’s 7!”

          Though for some reason i thought that he had 2 left. Thank you for fixing my math error.

      • Wednesday, February 13th, 2013 08:06 pm GMT -4 at 8:06 pm

        What about if Marshall gives Ted “a slap” and that’s how Ted hurts his hand?

        • Wednesday, February 13th, 2013 08:07 pm GMT -4 at 8:07 pm

          Sorry, to clarify, Marshall delegates a slap to Ted (not Marshall slaps Ted) and Ted hurts it in either slapping or attempting to slap Barney.

    14. Tuesday, February 12th, 2013 03:36 pm GMT -4 at 3:36 pm

      my vote for SK is The Blitz. There is such an anger of years and years of missing out on all the stuff the “cool” kids get to experience…he’ll get his revenge. and that mystical breathe that corrupts and overtakes the body of the Blitz…very haunted and diabolical. but mostly…where does the Blitz go when all the fun happens and what is the Blitz doing???? we never see that…the illusion is done by distracting us all with the event that is transpiring…what better time to perpetrate his killing during this distraction. just a thought.

      • Tuesday, February 12th, 2013 07:49 pm GMT -4 at 7:49 pm

        Salmonking, I like how you think!

    15. Tuesday, February 12th, 2013 05:55 pm GMT -4 at 5:55 pm

      Ok most of my stuff is pretty nit-picky, but hey, you all are probably used to that from me by now.

      @Ross – good insights. I didn’t even think about the fire being Ted’s (well Quinn’s) entire apartment and that facilitates his move into the house. I’m with you as well regarding about ring size being almost saying I love you. The thing is, Ted has already said I love you again. When he says it to Robin on the roof, it says that was the last time he said it before meeting the mother. But while in the hospital, when Robin and Ted reconcile, he says I love you, as a joke. Sure he didn’t mean it, but it irked me they went there after making it so clear earlier.

      Good call back on the Departed impression. It makes the first one less random given how old the reference was at the time, so that makes me happy.

      Barney was over hookups I thought? They did that transition so quickly that I didn’t like he was so into reminiscing about crazy gals. If he hadn’t been over it so fast this wouldn’t bother me, but since they wrote it that way, it does.

      Robin said she was going to love the crap out of Lily’s baby, so at first I was annoyed that she wasn’t holding him, but the end pushed us in that direction, so I can deal.

      Narrator Ted referred to Marvin as Cousin Marvin. I don’t think there are going to be strange family relationships, but I think it is one thing to call Lily, Marshall, Robin, and Barney Aunt and Uncle, but another thing to extend that to their kids. Odd.

      The cuckoo clock followed the rule of three (worked three times then it didn’t), but I agree that the flash forwards should have followed that too.

      Am I the only who is curious where they are in the flash forward in terms of whose apartment is it, etc.?

      Are those meatball subs they are eating? Barney, you totally missed a revenge chance.

      What else was missing – an episode about crazy that doesn’t reference crazy eyes or the crazy/hot scale.

      No more dating, Ted is ready to settle down. I have to say, this bodes well for meeting the mother in some kind of capacity at the end of this season. I don’t see how they can drag Jeanette out past the end of this season (not sure it can even go that long).

      • Tuesday, February 12th, 2013 07:01 pm GMT -4 at 7:01 pm

        We already know when he meets their mother. They also have another whole season to talk about how he met their mother, so idk if they are going to stretch it out to the last season, but would Ted really meet the mother before the end of the series? If that was the case the title of the show would be pointless.

        Talking about the dating stage after he met their mother? It wouldn’t be how i met your mother, it would be how i seduced your mother.

      • Tuesday, February 12th, 2013 08:44 pm GMT -4 at 8:44 pm

        That stinky diaper at 3am was a CB CT joke about loving the crap right out of him eww.

    16. Tuesday, February 12th, 2013 07:36 pm GMT -4 at 7:36 pm

      You forgot Theory 3: the show has lasted way beyond its expiration date, and Ted’s dating life has drug on far too long. The show’s premise only set it up to last a few seasons, 5 at most. But of course, CBS only wants it to continue because it keeps bringing in good ratings. The writers should have just put the kibosh on the show before it got ridiculous creatively. I hope next season involves Ted dating the Mother, and not more bachelor craziness that is out of character for him. Don’t get me wrong, I love the show, but it’s time to wrap this thing up.

    17. Tuesday, February 12th, 2013 07:46 pm GMT -4 at 7:46 pm

      So we went from season 7 GOOD CRAZy to Season 8 BAD CRAZy.

      Did anyone mention Barney carrying both ends of the canoe into Teds Apartment.

      James I think we will see the mother way before the end of Season 9 as you well know. HIMYM is still a valid show title even after Season 8s finish.

      And I think the subs may not be meatball.

      The ring thing can be explained away easily but for now just go with it. Carter and Craig love to mess with the audience.

      Tell me how many episodes left this season and how many Monday’s until the middle of May?

      • Tuesday, February 12th, 2013 10:37 pm GMT -4 at 10:37 pm

        I believe there’s eight more episodes this season. There’s typically 24 in a season.

        I’m getting excited! I can’t believe after all these years the actual meeting of the mother is so close! As nervous as I am about season 9 not being up to standards with the rest of the series, I’m still excited as hell for the main story wrap up this year!

        • Wednesday, February 13th, 2013 12:24 am GMT -4 at 12:24 am

          See I am going all the way back to season 1 when i think about it. (which i know is not very smart to do). Ted says to his kids something like… You 2 both know the whole walking up and seeing her story of how I met your mother, but I want to tell you the full story…. (dont quote me on that cause it is probably wrong)

          That is the main reason why I would think that “How I met your mother” would not be a legitimate title for it. But I do understand now how it would still be a good title for the show.

      • Wednesday, February 13th, 2013 12:49 am GMT -4 at 12:49 am

        James, that’s exactly the point. To Ted, how he met the kids’ mother was not the moment he actually met her, but HOW he met her, meaning all the things that needed to take place, the people he needed to meet, the person he needed to become before he met her. That is my take at least, and why I hope that we get the chance to see their relationship progress. I never understood why people said the show’s title is dumb if we see how their relationship progresses, because from Ted’s perspective, the how is the entire journey.

        • Wednesday, February 13th, 2013 10:45 am GMT -4 at 10:45 am

          *facepalm* you are right. That makes perfect sense. Seeing it in the morning instead of after a tiring day of work makes it a lot clearer.

    18. Tuesday, February 12th, 2013 11:11 pm GMT -4 at 11:11 pm

      I liked this episode, not as much as last weeks but it was still good and still felt like we were moving somewhere. The flashforwards felt a little off to me and i just wasn’t a fan of that storyline but the A story with ted and jeanette had me laughing. i liked that she turned out to be a cop. i laughed out loud at Barney’s, ted, she lives here now, you have to go line haha. and i agree that the flash through of ted’s casual dating could be taken multiple ways and if the show wanted to go that route, it could get dark.

      now theory time

      What If Season 9 Is Literally ALL 24 Hours Leading Up To The Wedding?

      like a season of 24?

      It’s all one day but every hour is an episode? It’s how they could stretch it out and if it’s like the craziest day ever it could totally work.

      i mean 24 did it.

      • Wednesday, February 13th, 2013 12:18 am GMT -4 at 12:18 am

        since it is a half hours show, they would only need to do 12hours, and that includes the wedding and reception. So theoretically that could work.

    19. Wednesday, February 13th, 2013 12:51 am GMT -4 at 12:51 am

      Don’t know if this is considered a spoiler, but check this link to see a picture of Robin’s hand in the flash forwards. Looks like someone very talented was able to get a freeze frame: http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/babarsuhail/44099981/4765/4765_300.jpg

      • Wednesday, February 13th, 2013 08:11 am GMT -4 at 8:11 am

        The pic is pretty small, but I gather there’s no ring? That seems to suggest that the lack of a ring is intentional. I find it hard to believe that they’d divorce acrimoniously, but I guess divorce is still a possibility. I suppose they could also agree to not wear rings or something. Guess we’ll find out.

        • Wednesday, February 13th, 2013 10:43 am GMT -4 at 10:43 am

          some people just dont wear their wedding ring ALL the time. People’s ring sizes change and dont trust a jeweler with something so sentimental. Then there are the people that are afraid they are going to lose it.(like myself who has issues keeping track of my cell and blackberry)

          But, from what we have seen from the writers, everything has been rather meticulous(from what I can tell at least)

        • Wednesday, February 13th, 2013 10:58 am GMT -4 at 10:58 am

          Yeah, at this point, I don’t think it’s an accident if they show one of them without a ring. The Trilogy Time flash forward was pretty good about that with Barney hiding his ring hand.

          Now, there could be any number of reasons why Robin doesn’t wear her ring. These could include:

          1.) They’re divorced after 2015 (probably May 2015).

          2.) They decide after 2015 to mutually not wear rings.

          3.) Robin freaks out at the wedding, citing that she’ll never get a drink at a bar again or have guys look at her, and Barney says “So don’t wear your ring. I don’t care.” But Barney continues to wear his.

          I find it a LITTLE tough to believe that the writers and creators would spend so much freaking time bringing Robin and Barney together, only to have them divorce down the road, so I tend to think it’s something closer to #3 there. In an effort to chill Robin out, Barney says he doesn’t mind if she goes ringless, since it doesn’t mean she’s not his wife. She can still feel like the hot girl at the bar, and Barney can live out some screwed up fantasy about being a married guy picking up single chicks in a bar (except he only ever picks up Robin). Or something like that.

          I think if they were going to go in the “darker” direction, they’d have done it already with Barney marrying someone else (or never marrying) and Robin being single the rest of her life but maybe a little wistful about not having settled down with either Ted or Barney when she had the chance. But like I say, that’s a lot more pathos than the show usually works with, and it’s…kinda pathos for no purpose. When the show hurts its characters, it seems to do so for a reason. I don’t see a reason in splitting those two up or having them remain single forever.

        • Wednesday, February 13th, 2013 12:32 pm GMT -4 at 12:32 pm

          I could totally see Barney enjoying using the playbook on Robin over and over again to spice up their sex life or to just have a little bit of fun. And Barney could feel “Dirty” if he is wearing his wedding ring and is picking up Robin as “the other woman”.

          Cause you are totally right I truly doubt that the writers would make such a big stink about barney and robin getting together, if they would eventually get divorced.

          But you could go all inception, and think that they know that the fans would think that, so instead they do exactly what the fans wouldn’t expect all along, and go down a super dark path.

    20. Wednesday, February 13th, 2013 12:14 pm GMT -4 at 12:14 pm

      The whole Ring-No Ring thing is silly. i have been married for 6 years. My wife wears her rings occasionally. she runs a day-care and can’t wear them at work when dealing with small babies…so if she remembers to put them back on after work, she does, if she doesn’t…well, she doesn’t. when I play sports, exercise, rock climbing, or pretty much anything active I cannot wear my ring. so it sits in my car cup holder half the time, and i wear it the other half (when i remember to put it back on). it is really no big deal. i know many many marriages that work this way. The only time my wife “insists” that i wear my ring (or checks up on me) is when i am heading away on business or just going out with the boys. but i find that cute and funny.

      so if Barney or Robin don’t have a ring on…whipty sh*t really. it means almost nothing. we as fans have made such a big deal that i think C/T have done things to mess with us…they’ve been know to do that (see Bump Girl).

      really a non-issue

      • Wednesday, February 13th, 2013 12:16 pm GMT -4 at 12:16 pm

        Overall, I agree, but that’s why I thnk it’s worth pointing out the whole “Why spend several seasons bringing them together only to split them apart?” thing. I think there’s some mundane explanation for it that will likely fit with their characters, and taht’ll be that.

        • Wednesday, February 13th, 2013 01:06 pm GMT -4 at 1:06 pm

          i guess what i mean is that why do we have to assume there was ever a “split them apart”?

        • Wednesday, February 13th, 2013 01:07 pm GMT -4 at 1:07 pm

          true story SalmonKing

    21. Wednesday, February 13th, 2013 01:43 pm GMT -4 at 1:43 pm

      Overall I really enjoyed the episode. The scene of them carrying the things into Ted’s apartment was funny, with the canoe. I like how they had Robin and Lily showed up after “hearing him scream from 3 blocks away.” Classic Schmosby.

      But I wasn’t a huge fan of them showing the whole scene again with Tyson, we could have figured it out. Again, I feel like there are missing chances for great humor.

      @scaifington, I think the 24 hour theory is out because the series has stayed with show time matching relatively close to actual time. Which something that I truly enjoy.

      • Wednesday, February 13th, 2013 01:56 pm GMT -4 at 1:56 pm

        showing it again I believe was just an excuse to have him have a cameo. I do believe that that was the funniest part of this episode though.

    22. Wednesday, February 13th, 2013 02:30 pm GMT -4 at 2:30 pm

      I am truly concerned that no one has mentioned Jeannette wearing a purple overcoat outside of Ted’s Class Building. Then again in Teds room she was wearing a Purple… well not really wearing much of anything but it was purple.

      Also no speculation on how soon everything is going to Flame out?

      • Wednesday, February 13th, 2013 02:37 pm GMT -4 at 2:37 pm

        What is the big deal about the stuff being purple?

        • Wednesday, February 13th, 2013 03:12 pm GMT -4 at 3:12 pm

          Concerning the Mother we have Yellow. We have Green for GO and Purple for I am not interested or not interested in you or NOT READY TO SETTLE DOWN not interesTED.

          I may be saying that wrong. But as I get older like Narrator Ted, my info may be a little inaccurate. I am not that old. Just trying for some wiggle room here.

        • Wednesday, February 13th, 2013 03:40 pm GMT -4 at 3:40 pm

          ohhh so its like the the kid wearing red in “the sixth sense” Makes sense

        • Wednesday, February 13th, 2013 08:59 pm GMT -4 at 8:59 pm


          I Left Off unhappy or Purple Pride. Remember Band or DJ. Ted has on a Purple T Shirt, Marshall Purple Sweater and Lily Purple Top at the Bar.

          Barney was freaking out and had on a Purple Tie. When Nora and her two friends came to the Bar on Valenties Day they mentioned Purple was for Pride.

          The Ducky Tie had a mix or yellow and purple. Just some of the other things mentioned about color on the show.

          We are going to see Barney go through… Oh I forgot this is not the spoiler section. I will just keep that for later.

    23. Wednesday, February 13th, 2013 04:11 pm GMT -4 at 4:11 pm

      Ok so we obviously seen 2 totally different episodes. I actually thought this was the best episode they had since the final page prt 1+2. I can’t believe most of you liked the robin sparkles 4 episode better than this one. I mean there honestly wasn’t that much going for it, I didn’t think anyway. And for the people complaining about Tyson’s cameo being “celeb over substance” what about the robin sparkles episode? I mean it had Alan thick, Paul Shafer, The guy from full house, and others? I don’t see how that was good but Tyson wasn’t.

      For me personally I thought this was the best episode they had in awhile. It was funny! Come on I don’t know why most of you didn’t like it. I mean yeah some of the gags were a little silly but they are GAGS they are meant to be silly. And for marshall and barney not acting like themselves, everyone has didn’t sides of their personality, if they acted the same way all the time it would get boring and unrealistic. And for the robin/lily flashforwards isn’t that what makes this show speacial? HIMYM was the show to make flasbacks and forwards really popular, so I was fine with that.

      Anyway, I liked Barney with the coo coo clock, i liked when barney said your right I’m a monster, and the deal with the subs and them playing the video game, I thought all of that was funny. I liked lily and robins story, even the flasforwards i thought that was funny. And yes I thought the tyson cameo was funny too. I liked ted falling down the stairs and him interacting with jeannette. I dont think Jeanatte is that bad. I liked robin finally holding marv, and i think my fav part was, Is she a cop? I think shes a cop, Do you know she was a cop?! I didn’t know she was a cooopp! But thats just me, lol I see most of you thought it was corny but oh well.

      Lastly we got a little insight to the future and how they will end, up in flames litterally so I am interested to see how that goes and it helped move the story along and gave a place for the story to head towards. Oh and finally did anyone notice my perdiction was right? Look on last weeks episode review I totally called that she was going to be the last girl ted dated before the mother.

      • Wednesday, February 13th, 2013 04:43 pm GMT -4 at 4:43 pm

        A lot of the complaints from the show have to do with rules of editing and basic rules of filming and joke telling. Rule of 3 etc.

      • Thursday, February 14th, 2013 11:17 am GMT -4 at 11:17 am

        @CCBHIMYM, I agree, the whole reenactment from The Departed was hilarious. I love when they reuse little jokes like that. It’s their inside jokes that help show how they are like us and our friends.

    24. Thursday, February 14th, 2013 05:27 am GMT -4 at 5:27 am

      About the rings- was thinking about it last night, and I think I know the reason they don’t show them. They love to keep the audience guessing, and talking, and although no rings can be pretty easily explained away, and is not uncommon for married couples anyway, wearing rings would definitely show that they are still married, at least to someone. My take anyway:) Personally, I’m loving the new episodes and really really hope SOMETHING goes down in literal flames, preferably Teds apartment. Cuckoo clock was genius. Quite interested to see where they take the issue of children.. Quite disappointed actually as I was expecting to see that in this episode, from reading the blurb. Regarding the title, I wouldn’t take it literally, but also, will be Angry as hell if they end the show just as Ted literally meets the mother. The season, fine, but not the show. I don’t think they will do that to their audience at any rate. About Jeanette… I think it’s a mix of a few things. Crazy-obsessed can be seductive, and I think ted needs someone who really wants him, and as Barney said, it can be fun. I think he has become a bit of a player over time as well, and perhaps hasn’t thought too much about the consequences of having a bit of fun. And yes, the girl is crazy, but Ted hasn’t exactly been discouraging it.

    25. Thursday, February 14th, 2013 08:43 am GMT -4 at 8:43 am

      The Crazy/Hot scale dictates that they girl needs to be hotter than crazy in order to reach justification (above the Vicky Mendoza Line). Jeannette (Abby Eliot) – NO. Blahblah (Abigail Spencer) – Abso-freaking-lutely! Lawyered.

      • Thursday, February 14th, 2013 09:44 am GMT -4 at 9:44 am

        Already addressed above. Plus, there’s a little-known codicil to the “Lawyered Rule,” which states that one cannot lawyer a lawyer. :P

        • Thursday, February 14th, 2013 10:29 am GMT -4 at 10:29 am

          haha…i worked in the legal arena for 13 years (fortunately no longer)….i have lawyered many a lawyer in my day. although they would probably never admit to it. they just buy me lunch and tell me to keep quiet.

          and on this topic…i didn’t think Carly (Barney’s half sister) was anything special in the looks department either. Ted used to reel in some top notch recruits…seems lately he is off his game. maybe they are slumming now to make the Mother look that much better. but the days of Trudy the Pineapple, Blahblah, Mary the Paralegal and even the crazy Asian overtalker (name escapes me right now) seem to be long gone. hopefully Mom brings back the boom!

    26. Thursday, February 14th, 2013 11:23 am GMT -4 at 11:23 am

      @SalmonKing, You’re totally right. The woman Ted has been pulling in aren’t nearly as hott as they use to be. The one at the end of the “Sexless Inkeeper” is a personal favorite. They are probably trying to lower our standards before we meet YM. Hope she’s perfect for Ted.

    27. Thursday, February 14th, 2013 12:20 pm GMT -4 at 12:20 pm

      Not sure if anyone said this about the Tyson and eating Marvin up. In the early 90s when Tyson had a fight scheduled, in the post fight press conference he stated that “he wanted to eat the other boxer’s children”. That is why I found that line so funny when Tyson said it to Marvin and I believe why the writers used it, not ear related.

      • Thursday, February 14th, 2013 01:57 pm GMT -4 at 1:57 pm

        Nice catch, that’s hilarious.

    28. Di
      Thursday, February 14th, 2013 07:11 pm GMT -4 at 7:11 pm

      I rewatched the episode today, since I really didn’t have a strong opinion on Monday. I guess i thought it was Ok. i think a major flaw is that Barney probably has a ton of schemes to get rid of a crazy girl. Why not help Ted out?

      I agree! how did they not mention the crazy/hot scale!

    29. Thursday, February 14th, 2013 09:17 pm GMT -4 at 9:17 pm

      Happy Valentine’s Day all!!!! Hope everyone is having a fabu day!!

      So this has nothing to do with the episode really but this HIMYM community has been great and really helpful in helping me deal with some bad times.

      So, I saw a “sign” of fate last night. After being slightly depressed, I decided to paint my nails my fav color. Now I’ve used this color many many times. I NEVER looked at the name…
      last night I just happened to see the name and it is called: HOW I MET YOUR MAGENTA!!!

      I don’t know about you all, but that kinda helped me feel more uplifted because if anyone knows me, its that I am beyond obsessed with this show, which is all about signs/fate/destiny.

      SO I’m seeing this as a sign that things will look up.

      Good day all

      • Thursday, February 14th, 2013 11:36 pm GMT -4 at 11:36 pm

        So glad we had a great week on the blog. Lots of good thoughts and opinions. I had a great Valentines day. Glad you found something that made you happy. We are going to have two more great episodes in a row. Monday will be a very reflective evening.

    30. Thursday, February 14th, 2013 11:45 pm GMT -4 at 11:45 pm

      For the single folks out there wishing they weren’t (as opposed to those who are thanking the universe that they are), I have to things to say, on this Valentine’s Day:

      1.) It’s really just a day like any other. It comes and goes, and tomorrow is…wait for it…..FEBRUARY 15th! Which means NOTHING. It too is just a day.

      2.) Have faith. Stay positive, and trust that it’ll happen if you hang in. Because it will. Hope. All will be well.

    31. Sunday, February 17th, 2013 05:48 pm GMT -4 at 5:48 pm

      Anyone else thought how sad it’s going to be for Robin, having her maternal side grow, would never be able to bear a child of her own?

    32. Monday, February 18th, 2013 12:04 am GMT -4 at 12:04 am

      Hey this doesn’t really have to do with himym but I thought it was neat and you guys may wanna know so I will post it. My fiance is a huge Nicholas Sparks fan, I mean she has everyone of his books and movies and has read/seen them all several times. So his newest movie just came out, Safe Haven, and we just went and seen it. Well we both are huge fans of himym too so as the opening scene was playing and the names of the actors were popping up we were very excited and surprised to see none other than….Cobie Smulders (Robin) name pop up. We both looked at each other and said wow she is starting to get big. First himym, then The Avengers (if you hadn’t seen it she was in that too), and now safe haven. Anyway I thought it was neat, I was afraid that after himym ended we wouldn’t hear from any of them other than Jason Segal (Marshall) but maybe all the rest of them will move on to something else too.

      • Tuesday, February 19th, 2013 10:46 am GMT -4 at 10:46 am

        Josh Radnor (Ted) did write and directed two movies which I personally love a lot. ‘HappyThankYouMorePlease’ and ‘Liberal Arts’. These movies wow-ed me, Josh CAN direct a film! Writing is still a bit weak but the direction is good. One funny thing is that my friend did comment that Josh is kinda still Ted outside of HIMYM, which is pretty neat. :)

        ‘Jeff, Who Lives at Home’ starring Jason is also a fun and inspiring movie to watch. Love it too. :)

        • Tuesday, February 19th, 2013 03:45 pm GMT -4 at 3:45 pm

          I loved Jeff who lives at home, it was soo good! And I seen HappyThankYouMorePlease but I wasnt super impressed but I never heard of Liberal Arts, maybe I will check it out to see if its any better

    33. Monday, February 18th, 2013 06:09 pm GMT -4 at 6:09 pm

      I haven’t actually watched this episode but i heard that we find out that whoever ted dates in this episode is his last girlfriend before the mother. If this is true i think its a terrible idea. I don’t like seeing ted as a loner and a complete singleton, ok for a couple of episodes but not for another series plus. If im wrong though (and i probably am since i get terrible himym info) please ignore this.

      • Monday, February 18th, 2013 06:18 pm GMT -4 at 6:18 pm

        It’s sort of implied. He says she’s the last big mistake. And the scene of him sitting by the ruins of his apartment suggests that after her, he doesn’t date casually anymore.

        I suppose they COULD fit someone else in, but on the other hand, if we end up finally seeing the Mother and officially “meeting” her at the end of this season or first episode or two of S9, there really isn’t a ton of time in between for Ted to date anyway.

        • Monday, February 18th, 2013 07:41 pm GMT -4 at 7:41 pm

          I agree. It completely depends on when the wedding actually happens.

    34. Monday, February 18th, 2013 08:59 pm GMT -4 at 8:59 pm

      I just rewatched the first minute of Bad Crazy and here’s what Ted says:

      “Ok no more dating, I’m ready to settle down” is what Ted used to say but he tells the kids being single is fun. I actually like this because it makes clear why Ted wasn’t in complete despair about not having met the one after all this time. On a side note, I sort of disagree with Ted. Maybe dating is fun if you are an attractive, successful architect/professor, but maybe I’m not doing it right.

      Then Ted says that “It took someone very special to make me want to settle down”

      Then two more, in my opinion ironclad statements they can’t get out of:
      1. “Jeanette was the last girl I dated before I met your mother”
      2. She finally got Ted to say “no more dating, I’m ready to settle down, and mean it”

      So since Ted has already broken the whole I didn’t say I love you again until I said it to your mother, I suppose they could find a way out of this. Maybe no more dating, but one night stands, etc.

      I agree though, if we don’t get contact with the mother by the end of this season, they have created a problem.

      Sorry, I’ve been kind of down lately, so I apologize in advance, I’m sure unless this episode knocks it out of the park, I’m going to go to town on criticizing it.

    35. Monday, February 18th, 2013 11:12 pm GMT -4 at 11:12 pm

      Okay Everyone the New Show Review is up for Season 8, Episode 17: The Ashtray.

      …And Solo4114 is right on the money with this one.

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